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Topic: What happens now that BitcoinXT is essentially dead - page 2. (Read 3271 times)

hero member
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Move On !!!!!!
Nothing happens, it seems that the XT won't win. But the Pandora's box is open and now there is no turning back (for this I am actually thankful to Gavin, that he has run the alarm).

We will have some other BIP, simple as that. It stays to see which BIP this will be. It's up to the community, miners, devs, and payment processors to decide, but there is no turning back once again. The block sizes will be increased in my opinion.
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?
There are millions of unsuccessful open source projects which are very similar to successful open source projects.
And again, nothing special in Bitcoin World.

You didn't answer the question. Why did Bitcoin succeed and other POW coins failed?

Bitcoin succeed because it has the best developers, the most money invest, the biggest network. It's as simple as that but some people seem to not get it, they think because anyone can fork Bitcoin Bitcoin isn't special or something.

Bitcoin attracted the best developers, the most money and the biggest network because people increasingly trusted it with their wealth.

Bitcoin is money. Money grows with trust. It's really not all that complicated.
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
nothing, i just hope consensus don't follow something worse, like the whole route that give advantage to miners by increasing fees and shit like that

i'm all for dynamic TX limit, which is bip106 apaprently


There will be more than one design for dynamic limits, I think 106 is the first into the BIP repo though. You could argue BIP100 is dynamic... but voting system is a more apt name for it, which I think was how Garzik described it.

The feeling I got from the conference and overhearing a couple discussion is the trend is tending toward a very conservative increase to provide necessary time to develop necessary layers to scale.

It's quite clear to me a majority of the focus shifted from the block size as any type of scaling solution to more realist and sensible proposals like different implementations of open payment protocols.
hero member
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1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?
There are millions of unsuccessful open source projects which are very similar to successful open source projects.
And again, nothing special in Bitcoin World.

You didn't answer the question. Why did Bitcoin succeed and other POW coins failed?

Bitcoin succeed because it has the best developers, the most money invest, the biggest network. It's as simple as that but some people seem to not get it, they think because anyone can fork Bitcoin Bitcoin isn't special or something.
legendary
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nothing, i just hope consensus don't follow something worse, like the whole route that give advantage to miners by increasing fees and shit like that

i'm all for dynamic TX limit, which is bip106 apaprently


There will be more than one design for dynamic limits, I think 106 is the first into the BIP repo though. You could argue BIP100 is dynamic... but voting system is a more apt name for it, which I think was how Garzik described it.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?
There are millions of unsuccessful open source projects which are very similar to successful open source projects.
And again, nothing special in Bitcoin World.

You didn't answer the question. Why did Bitcoin succeed and other POW coins failed?
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?

if you're too dumb to figure this out, then you should stop posting garbage


hint: its not trust


 Roll Eyes

Please enlighten me
hero member
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1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?
There are millions of unsuccessful open source projects which are very similar to successful open source projects.
And again, nothing special in Bitcoin World.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?

if you're too dumb to figure this out, then you should stop posting garbage


hint: its not trust
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Meanwhile we inch closer to the edge of the cliff.  Sad

switching to bitcoinxt takes only minutes
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
Meanwhile we inch closer to the edge of the cliff.  Sad
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
In every thread with BitcoinXT, i always see 3-4 faces of the retards bashing Gavin, and Mike.

LOL, you're fighting so hard huh?


 Roll Eyes

Says the guy who's whole sad online persona is based on bashing someone's who's never heard of him.

Say the dumbass who thinks he is "bitcoin community"

What the fck you think you are? Some piece of shit traders who spent most his time in speculation section and scamcoins section.

 

LOL let the real community decide the direction of bitcoin, you're fighting an imaginary war, dumbass


I sat around "the real community" the whole weekend and it was quite productive thank you.

You're a troll, what credentials do you have to call out anyone?

True you might have sat around with some key players in bitcoin world, but did you dare to open your mouth like you did on here? you know the shittalks about bitcoinXT, Gavin and Mike?

I bet if you did, you will be looked at like an idiot. But doing it online is fine right? because there are few other retards to join you.

Calling you out on the merits of your posts, i dont need "credentials" for that.

This is not a political game dumbass
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...

There are thousands of coins based on proof of work. Surely there is something special about Bitcoin?
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
In every thread with BitcoinXT, i always see 3-4 faces of the retards bashing Gavin, and Mike.

LOL, you're fighting so hard huh?


 Roll Eyes

Says the guy who's whole sad online persona is based on bashing someone's who's never heard of him.

Say the dumbass who thinks he is "bitcoin community"

What the fck you think you are? Some piece of shit traders who spent most his time in speculation section and scamcoins section.

 

LOL let the real community decide the direction of bitcoin, you're fighting an imaginary war, dumbass


I sat around "the real community" the whole weekend and it was quite productive thank you.

You're a troll, what credentials do you have to call out anyone?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
It is based in Proof of Work. Maybe you have heard about that.

I wanted to comment on the other things, but you are just throwing around words, without meaning and I have better things to do ...
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
In every thread with BitcoinXT, i always see 3-4 faces of the retards bashing Gavin, and Mike.

LOL, you're fighting so hard huh?


 Roll Eyes

Says the guy who's whole sad online persona is based on bashing someone's who's never heard of him.

Say the dumbass who thinks he is "bitcoin community"

What the fck you think you are? Some piece of shit traders who spent most his time in speculation section and scamcoins section.

 

LOL let the real community decide the direction of bitcoin, you're fighting an imaginary war, dumbass
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
nothing, i just hope consensus don't follow something worse, like the whole route that give advantage to miners by increasing fees and shit like that

i'm all for dynamic TX limit, which is bip106 apparently
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
In every thread with BitcoinXT, i always see 3-4 faces of the retards bashing Gavin, and Mike.

LOL, you're fighting so hard huh?


 Roll Eyes

Says the guy who's whole sad online persona is based on bashing someone's who's never heard of him.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
In every thread with BitcoinXT, i always see 3-4 faces of the retards bashing Gavin, and Mike.

LOL, you're fighting so hard huh?
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request?  
You just do.
You guys are acting like BitcoinXT was something that never happened before. It may not have happened in the Bitcoin world, but it happens all the time in the Open Source World. So, if their proposal is not accepted by an economic majority, they drop it, and start working on other projects. Business as usual. Nothing dramatic about that.
You guys are just a bunch of retarded fanboys, like in all this stupid iPhone vs. Android wars ...

It really isn't comparable and if you can't see it then it is likely you are part of the "retarded" gang.
Why is it not comparable? Please enlighten me.

Because this is a 3B$ economy that depends on trust. Forcing a contentious hard fork for political motives divides the consensus & undermines that trust which puts everyone's money at risk.
So, it is the worth of the project?
Linux is worth more and forks happen all the time. That was exactly the kind of fanboy answer, I expected.

Worth of the project? No, this is an economy based on trust dipshit, hasn't anything to do with "the worth". Moreover their hard fork was not based on technical dissent but political ideologies as they attempted to force their turd down the throat of "the community" using PR tactics, propaganda & fud using their "authority".

No one's investment is directly at risk from a Linux fork. You're a clown  Undecided
1. It is not based on trust. You are not even able to understand a fundamental principle of Bitcoin.
2. It is a open source project, calling it an economy or using other term to make it sound special, just confirms, that I am talking with a fanboy, who doesn't want to see reality.
3. Same with calling it "not technical dissent but political ideologies", just because you don't like the solution, they provided.
4. Yes, a Linux fork, could cause people to lose their investment. Again, nothing unusual here in the Bitcoin World.

@Carlton Banks
and again ad hominem is all you can provide ...

1. "Not based on trust" Then what is it? Magic? Bitcoin = money. Money = trust. Seems pretty fundamental to me.
2. Bitcoin = money = economy. As Carlton mentions it relies on consensus much like any form of money does and quite unlike any other open source project.
3. I don't care about the solution. As any open source fork its code should stand on its own. It didn't and so they had to rely to shady tactics to sell it to the sheeps.
4. Painfully obvious you don't know what you're talking about
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