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Topic: What happens when Hedge Fund managers get involved? (Read 2369 times)

legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
TERA
Do you know:
 If you will live 100 years then it is only 36,500 days. So you cannot visit Pluto 1,000,000 times because you will have to  travel Earth - Pluto (and back) 27 times per day.

 And same is impossible with Bitcoin. Number of Bitcoin private key is 2^256 variations. There is only 2^256 atoms in whole universe. => To destroy bitcoin is as impossible as collect all atoms from universe.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
I am still 75% long. Do all of someones opinions here have to do with their own trading position?

Bitcoin is not obsolete nor unfunctional. And bitcoin is not unforeseen. Bitcoin is very precisely created.  Please do not spread FUD if you cannot approve.
No but it can happen in the future.

Everything can happen in the future. So there is a chance I'll visit Pluto (probability 0.000000000001) ... and there is probability 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001 for your FUD to happen.

means I'll visit Pluto 1,000,000 times. :-)

And I think it is possible. (why not?)
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
I am still 75% long. Do all of someones opinions here have to do with their own trading position?

Bitcoin is not obsolete nor unfunctional. And bitcoin is not unforeseen. Bitcoin is very precisely created.  Please do not spread FUD if you cannot approve.
No but it can happen in the future.

Everything can happen in the future. So there is a chance I'll visit Pluto (probability 0.000000000001) ... and there is probability 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001 for your FUD to happen.

means I'll visit Pluto 1,000,000 times. :-)
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
I am still 75% long. Do all of someones opinions here have to do with their own trading position?

Bitcoin is not obsolete nor unfunctional. And bitcoin is not unforeseen. Bitcoin is very precisely created.  Please do not spread FUD if you cannot approve.
No but it can happen in the future.

Everything can happen in the future. So there is a chance I'll visit Pluto (probability 0.000000000001) ... and there is probability 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001 for your FUD to happen.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
I am still 75% long. Do all of someones opinions here have to do with their own trading position?

Bitcoin is not obsolete nor unfunctional. And bitcoin is not unforeseen. Bitcoin is very precisely created.  Please do not spread FUD if you cannot approve.
No but it can happen in the future.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
I am still 75% long. Do all of someones opinions here have to do with their own trading position?

Bitcoin is not obsolete nor unfunctional. And bitcoin is not unforeseen. Bitcoin is very precisely created.  Please do not spread FUD if you cannot approve.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
I am still 75% long. Do all of someones opinions here have to do with their own trading position?
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
It is FUD (did you short?)
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
It's something unforeseen which will make btc unfunctional or obsolete.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.

And why is that? Bitcoin allegedly is the money of criminals. It should have appeal to the mother of crime.
Protocol failure and changes in technology.
What is the "Protocol failure" and what are the "changes in technology" ?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.

And why is that? Bitcoin allegedly is the money of criminals. It should have appeal to the mother of crime.
Protocol failure and changes in technology.
member
Activity: 95
Merit: 10
Short selling requires someone to lend you bitcoins to sell. 

An exchange might allow it  -- i.e. accept your order and execute it, but Bitcoins would actually have to be delivered by someone -- possibly the exchange.

There's nothing special about hedge-funds shorting stuff, except that they like to do it , and have deep enough risk pockets to do it in reasonable size. 

Any decent sized hedge-fund has a pretty strict set of assets that can be traded.  I'm not aware of any big funds that have bitcoin on those lists -- but if the funds and trusts arrive as promised, many hedge-funds will be able to trade them simply as they are listed-shares.

It would be very beneficial to have someone lending bitcoins to allow shorting  -- it brings stability and liquidity to a market.


The only real problem is that there are not enough coins to go around at current prices -- but this was always true.



sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.

Lol  Cheesy

Why wouldn't big money be 'allowed' to get into it? Big money is 'allowed' to do pretty much whatever the heck it wants.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.

Bitcoin is unstoppable.
anu
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.

And why is that? Bitcoin allegedly is the money of criminals. It should have appeal to the mother of crime.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1131
tldr

zomg next stop $100m
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
If 1% of Hedge-Funds capital would flow into BTC the price would instantly rise to 1300$, but that was a calculation based on the Bitcoin Conference 2013 in May, so it would go even higher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LQu-eIOO0&index=2&list=PL-UG6I1BTHcD0x5rjtFXdjPOr7DD84ugf

I would imagine that what is happening now is the tip of that iceberg. Some of the smaller, more flexible funds are allocating 1% of their capital to BTC. They are small enough to get through the door without moving the market too much and can afford to lose all of that 1%. Meanwhile they see the upside as huge and the bet as one well worth taking.
full member
Activity: 159
Merit: 100
If 1% of Hedge-Funds capital would flow into BTC the price would instantly rise to 1300$, but that was a calculation based on the Bitcoin Conference 2013 in May, so it would go even higher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LQu-eIOO0&index=2&list=PL-UG6I1BTHcD0x5rjtFXdjPOr7DD84ugf
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.

LOL  Cheesy
It's already in, and there is more coming.
You really think hedge funds give much of a f*ck about what the US gov says, especially the smaller ones that fly mostly below the radar and are based offshore precisely to avoid regulations?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Bitcoin is doomed to fail. It's not something big money would be allowed to get into.
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