What has been more hyped than the HBO Doc? - page 2.

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The way I see it, this is a part of the manipulation. Why would they hype it so much if they had no evidence? Maybe the answer is money, views, subs?
Have you noticed the priced slightly dropped a day before the premiere? I wouldn't be surprised if a hedge fund was planning to get some more cheap coins by shaking out leverage.

The community knew they had shit and they knew it, yet they hyped it knowing this was going to be another "great reveal" like the one where they claimed it was Dorian Nakamoto because you know, his name is Nakamoto and he does computer stuff Cheesy

They spent so much time with Back though. I wonder how much they paid him.

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Quote from: FortuneFollower on October 11, 2024, 04:49:14 AM

Quote from: MusaMohamed on October 11, 2024, 04:47:50 AM

HBO want to make noise, and get good marketing effects from this movie. They knew that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Peter Todd, but it's their bad product because if Peter Todd get dangerous physical attacks, how will HBO pay for this cost?

They can do the movie with misinformation, to get benefit but if includes risk on Peter Todd, I really dislike HBO.

Yeah, heard about the risks for Todd too, I do think that in some years to come, the story will repeat itself, money will be made, and it all will be forgotten. As it should be.

I don't think they will just feature anybody without their consent, so those people agree too and knows the risk that entails with it. It can also be for the money on why they do risky stunts like this.

I think this is not new, so I also believe that the story or history like this will still repeat. That being said, it won't actually be forgotten but it will always be remembered. Also because crypto/BTC is so influential right now and it is always a big deal for the community if there are issues like this where the founder of BTC (Satoshi) is now being involved. Remember Craig Wright? I think there are other Faketoshi's too apart from him and our memories about them are still fresh.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on October 11, 2024, 04:47:50 AM

HBO want to make noise, and get good marketing effects from this movie. They knew that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Peter Todd, but it's their bad product because if Peter Todd get dangerous physical attacks, how will HBO pay for this cost?

They can do the movie with misinformation, to get benefit but if includes risk on Peter Todd, I really dislike HBO.

Yeah, heard about the risks for Todd too, I do think that in some years to come, the story will repeat itself, money will be made, and it all will be forgotten. As it should be.

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Quote from: nomachine on October 10, 2024, 12:39:21 AM

Claiming Peter Todd is Satoshi because he knows C++ is like saying I'm Michael Jordan because I can dribble a basketball. 😂

They were many programmers who knew of C++ years ago but there were not many Cypherpunks and HBO can use them to limit less potential candidates for Satoshi Nakamoto.

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HBO must have run out of plot twists if they think that makes someone Satoshi! I guess next they'll reveal that Satoshi is actually...the Easter Bunny 🐰.

HBO want to make noise, and get good marketing effects from this movie. They knew that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Peter Todd, but it's their bad product because if Peter Todd get dangerous physical attacks, how will HBO pay for this cost?

They can do the movie with misinformation, to get benefit but if includes risk on Peter Todd, I really dislike HBO.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

By seeing those documentary released by HBO it made me follow to the guy they pointed out and people really feel crazy about that revelation they made. But actually HBO didn't do any good revelation since its like they are just guessing without giving any strong proof.

So after those documentary released it didn't clear up things and Satoshi identity remains mystery. Many people in crypto didn't believe on what they release so its like this is failed revelation in their side and guess that HBO just don't care about what people think since their main intention is to gather viewers and money for documentary they released.

Although I don't think its waste of time watching the documentary since somehow I enjoy the aftermath of the show they released.

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Quote from: bit3012009 on October 09, 2024, 08:32:21 PM

Quote from: hd49728 on October 09, 2024, 08:27:41 AM

People who understand about Bitcoin will not believe in it, and can not identify Satoshi Nakamoto or any Bitcoin owner if there is no signed message from a private key of a public address that is known. Another way is message signed with PGP key.

Without these messages with Bitcoin private key and PGP key, anyone who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, is not enough to prove it like Craig Wright failed.

Satoshi is alive and even now making transactions on his accounts.

For example 5 accounts:

Created 2009.01.29: 1C4rE41Kox3jZbdJT9yatyh4H2fMxP8qmD
Created 2009.01.30: 18E5d2wQdAfutcXgziHZR71izLRyjSzGSX
Created 2009.01.31: 13J8FkimCLQ2EnP1xRm7yHhpaZQa9H4p8E
Created 2009.01.31: 1MBBJBFEaYKHFZAeV7hQ7DWdu3aZktjzFH
Created 2009.02.02: 1CGT3Ywaa2upJfWtUtbXonDPNTfZPWqzmA

Each account had 50 BTC frozen, which were transferred on 2024.09.20.

Let me remind you:
2009-01-03 - Satoshi Nakamoto generated the first Bitcoin block (received 50 BTC).
2009.01.10 - The second to generate a block was the late Hal Finney (received 50 BTC).
2009-01-12 - First transaction, Satoshi transferred 10 BTC to Hal Finney.

The real Satoshi is Adam Back.

Why Adam Back?

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2024, 11:21:06 PM

It was hyped simply because it's HBO. HBO had the funds to make a very interesting and high-production-value documentary with good marketing. This is to be expected, as with having a lack of research and instead just focused on making the documentary look enticing.

That's funny because to me it looks like some BS time-waster.

They did make a ton of money off of this but at Peter Todd's expense.

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Quote from: o48o on October 10, 2024, 10:49:12 AM

I have only seen people speaking about this because i actively read crypto feeds, and in every single one people have just been repeating the point of view of how ridiculous this hbo "research" would be, and how dumb it ended up to be.

Good effort from HBO. The movie is rated well, but it's like trying to tell and convince people that in the middle of a hot day, it's going to rain soon..

I personally would rather focus on what he's done and just move on because finding out about Satoshi is not the main goal for now.

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Quote from: o48o on October 10, 2024, 10:49:12 AM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Who are these gurus that anticipated that? It would have been sell the news event if anything, and it wasn't anything like everyone thought. Nothing new was revealed. Actually less was revealed that already has been known.

I have only seen people speaking about this because i actively read crypto feeds, and in every single one people have just been repeating the point of view of how ridiculous this hbo "research" would be, and how dumb it ended up to be.

Also no matter how bad this was, focusing on the fact that someone denies being Satoshi shouldn't be news as they have done all they could to hide their identity. Denying of being Satoshi isn't proof of anything either.

I saw a whole x thread on how to trade the event.

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I don't watch the full show but one of the evidence in the documentary was a blatant joke, Todd and Satoshi having the same favorite pizza topping, pineapple and jalapeno, it felt more like a wild goose chase than some legit reveal. Moreover this is not the first time the Satoshi identity debate has been turned into a field day. Every time people fall for these big "reveals," it never leads anywhere. Ultimately, the market didn't even bat an eye. You know, for all intents and purposes, the Satoshi documentaries and rumors only feed curiosity, not actual progress in crypto. So much more is going on, which is important, other than chasing ghosts.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Who are these gurus that anticipated that? It would have been sell the news event if anything, and it wasn't anything like everyone thought. Nothing new was revealed. Actually less was revealed that already has been known.

I have only seen people speaking about this because i actively read crypto feeds, and in every single one people have just been repeating the point of view of how ridiculous this hbo "research" would be, and how dumb it ended up to be.

Also no matter how bad this was, focusing on the fact that someone denies being Satoshi shouldn't be news as they have done all they could to hide their identity. Denying of being Satoshi isn't proof of anything either.

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Quote from: albon on October 09, 2024, 02:24:40 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The meme coins based on Solana that were linked to Todd saw a big pump, but HBO was just a joke, and they made some hype for a few days. Still, I am grateful that Peter Todd is alive to respond to these allegations and deny them. How can the market react to a documentary with stupid conclusions like this, as if they don't know about online forums on the internet? I agree with what Todd said on his official account on X that it was just a marketing ploy by Cullen Hoback to promote his film, so I hope this matter is not given more than it deserves. Satoshi will remain a mystery forever, and we should always know that documentaries and their producers are primarily for profit and controversy, regardless of anything else.

Source: https://x.com/peterktodd

Yeah, I saw him laugh in their faces and deny any of their so-called "evidence", and I hope everything will be alright with him after all this debacle.
Polymarket popped like a bubble with many getting their money on Sassaman Roll Eyes

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Claiming Peter Todd is Satoshi because he knows C++ is like saying I'm Michael Jordan because I can dribble a basketball. 😂

HBO must have run out of plot twists if they think that makes someone Satoshi! I guess next they'll reveal that Satoshi is actually...the Easter Bunny 🐰.

Let's be real: the only way to prove who Satoshi is involves those elusive private keys, not random internet posts.

HBO, if you're listening, please focus on facts next time—before Peter Todd needs a body double just to go to the grocery store! 🍿

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Indeed this whole documentary thing is getting too much like what’s more special finding Satoshi funny enough they’re actually wrong probably but it seems they’re doing this for the crowd. They actually succeeded, almost everyone getting excited to watch more about this documentary, I have a lot of questions to ask concerning the documentation because it takes a lot to find Satoshi and it also takes a lot to cook up false story. They might be right also wrong at same time let’s just imagine they get to know Satoshi which is impossible so what’s the gain? Revealing someone else privacy is unnecessary at this point seeing bitcoin growth now, it’s obvious Peter Todd will need to stay safe.

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Quote from: albon on October 09, 2024, 02:24:40 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The meme coins based on Solana that were linked to Todd saw a big pump, but HBO was just a joke, and they made some hype for a few days. Still, I am grateful that Peter Todd is alive to respond to these allegations and deny them. How can the market react to a documentary with stupid conclusions like this, as if they don't know about online forums on the internet? I agree with what Todd said on his official account on X that it was just a marketing ploy by Cullen Hoback to promote his film, so I hope this matter is not given more than it deserves. Satoshi will remain a mystery forever, and we should always know that documentaries and their producers are primarily for profit and controversy, regardless of anything else.

Source: https://x.com/peterktodd

Marketing ploy for sure.
Thanks for the inside I didn't know of such memes

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Quote from: bit3012009 on October 09, 2024, 08:32:21 PM

Quote from: hd49728 on October 09, 2024, 08:27:41 AM

People who understand about Bitcoin will not believe in it, and can not identify Satoshi Nakamoto or any Bitcoin owner if there is no signed message from a private key of a public address that is known. Another way is message signed with PGP key.

Without these messages with Bitcoin private key and PGP key, anyone who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, is not enough to prove it like Craig Wright failed.

Satoshi is alive and even now making transactions on his accounts.

For example 5 accounts:

Created 2009.01.29: 1C4rE41Kox3jZbdJT9yatyh4H2fMxP8qmD
Created 2009.01.30: 18E5d2wQdAfutcXgziHZR71izLRyjSzGSX
Created 2009.01.31: 13J8FkimCLQ2EnP1xRm7yHhpaZQa9H4p8E
Created 2009.01.31: 1MBBJBFEaYKHFZAeV7hQ7DWdu3aZktjzFH
Created 2009.02.02: 1CGT3Ywaa2upJfWtUtbXonDPNTfZPWqzmA

Each account had 50 BTC frozen, which were transferred on 2024.09.20.

Let me remind you:
2009-01-03 - Satoshi Nakamoto generated the first Bitcoin block (received 50 BTC).
2009.01.10 - The second to generate a block was the late Hal Finney (received 50 BTC).
2009-01-12 - First transaction, Satoshi transferred 10 BTC to Hal Finney.

The real Satoshi is Adam Back.

That's bold revealing the identity of Satoshi in your first post on here.

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Quote from: Ambatman on October 09, 2024, 12:02:55 AM

To your topic question
What has been more Hyped than the HBO doc?

That would be the Fiat system.

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

I'm quite surprised they were individuals that were expecting something of concrete.
I'm a very curious person but the documentary never piqued my interest
Even if they wanted to speculate, I believe they could have done better with their marketing strategy and their reveal.

Yah 100% supper-hyped fiat is, in all ways imaginable/unimaginable. But I failed to include a "recently" somewhere in the question.
I wasn't sure they were going to have something legit. my main concern was its impact on the market.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2024, 11:21:06 PM

It was hyped simply because it's HBO. HBO had the funds to make a very interesting and high-production-value documentary with good marketing. This is to be expected, as with having a lack of research and instead just focused on making the documentary look enticing.

Yah the money and Crypto Bros too were in on the hype and I guess for free

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Quote from: Reatim on October 08, 2024, 11:02:18 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

We all knew that it was just going to be a theory and that they will not have an answer for sure. Notice how it is deliberate they say that it is 'likely' for Satoshi to be Peter Todd. They did not claim that that is 100% true. I have not watched the documentary but I will definitely check it out even if I already know that at the end of it, they just presented us with more questions and less answers.

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There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

There was hype because they made it seem like they actually found the real Satoshi. Thankfully they did not create some blatant lie to sell the documentary. It would have affected the market more if they actually had a breakthrough but so far from what I have seen, they do not seem to have presented something no one knows yet.

It is kind of funny that Peter Todd denied immediately the accusations making the documentary almost pointless.

I knew it was gonna be a theory but still with the way it was going it had the feel of them actually revealing something legit and actually changing the landscape

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 08, 2024, 11:01:13 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The documentary brought more questions than answers. How can you depend on someone's reply to a post as a basis or main evidence for your conclusion? There was not even one compelling evidence that Peter Todd is Satoshi. Just because he claimed to be knowledgeable about C++ and made an erroneous post doesn't make the dude Satoshi. Everyone knows the litmus test to prove who Satoshi is: The private keys to his wallet. I hope Cullen Hoback achieved his aim of making the documentary which is to make money.

HBO just brought Peter Todd into the spotlight, and he might have to need private security to move around because he is now a big target for criminals. If I were in his shoes, the next step would be to sue the producers of the documentary for telling lies and exposing me to danger.

Effective immediately I will sue.

Unfortunately most criminals out there lack the ability to verify this information and will just go ahead a trust a popular source like HBO.

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