What has been more hyped than the HBO Doc?

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Quote from: bit3012009 on October 09, 2024, 08:32:21 PM

The real Satoshi is Adam Back.

I havent seen the HBO documentary, they pointed it out to me but honestly i dont want to see it
we talked about it and no one actually knows who satoshi nakamoto is, according to many it is a group of people and therefore we can say philosophically that we are all satoshi nakamoto
If it's Adam Back, he do well to keep a low profile

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 09, 2024, 09:12:46 PM

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

We all knew that it was just going to be a theory and that they will not have an answer for sure. Notice how it is deliberate they say that it is 'likely' for Satoshi to be Peter Todd. They did not claim that that is 100% true. I have not watched the documentary but I will definitely check it out even if I already know that at the end of it, they just presented us with more questions and less answers.

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There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

There was hype because they made it seem like they actually found the real Satoshi. Thankfully they did not create some blatant lie to sell the documentary. It would have affected the market more if they actually had a breakthrough but so far from what I have seen, they do not seem to have presented something no one knows yet.

It is kind of funny that Peter Todd denied immediately the accusations making the documentary almost pointless.

I knew it was gonna be a theory but still with the way it was going it had the feel of them actually revealing something legit and actually changing the landscape

what changes it would be?

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Wait a minute, were you expecting the market to react to it before? Like hey we finally found Satoshi let's all sell our Bitcoin because he is alive and will one day sell all the Bitcoin he has in his wallet. If anyone believes HBO really had something incredible to share before the documentary were premiere, then I believe such person should also believe there is a Virgin woman at 100+ years old somewhere waiting for the right man since we don't know the things up use our time for anymore.

There wasn't any hype about the documentary, but people were just skeptical about their foolishness just like the ones we have seen in the past and I'm sure that one day, they will have the right information to share with the rest of the world and nobody will ever believe them. If you know Satoshi and the Satoshi can't sign Bitcoin transaction from his old wallet, the Satoshi doesn't exist. Even if the right one happen to be alive and can't sign transaction, then that's not Satoshi. No key no case.

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During the trailer of this series people gets more curious about the Bitcoin and how does the creator want to do with the Bitcoin and I remember that someone created a thread here before about the impact of the movie release people sell their asset because of fear and of course those weak hands makes an opportunity for the buyer of the dip to make profit with the small dump. IMHO it's just a hype about the Bitcoin or could be a foreshadowing for something might happen in the future.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Yeah it’s pretty funny that they had their few minutes of wonder there for all of us but it turned out to be a complete sham of a marketing stunt to get more views for HBO lol.

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Yes, the documentary by HBO made a lot of empty noise before the film was shown and everyone expected that there would be new facts that they reached after all this huge publicity, but it turned out to be nonsense and did not provide anything new except that Peter Todd's life was in danger as he himself said.

In my opinion, such people do not care about the truth, they are only looking for fame and media hype to attract people's attention to their nonsense and make more money and fame even by endangering people's lives.

HBO should have respected its reputation and professionalism and refrained from showing the film, they got a lot of criticism because of this documentary.

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The doc didn't actually present any compelling evidence that Peter Todd was Satoshi; it was all just hype and marketing. Just because Peter continued a thought of Satoshi's on the thread doesn't prove anything, especially because someone as intelligent and vigilant as Satoshi surely wouldn't accidentally log into another account, let alone even create a forum account under his real name at all.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 11, 2024, 03:26:46 PM

In the other hand, what if Peter acknowledged that he was Satoshi according to HBO documentary. What do you think would have happened?

It would only matter if he could prove he had the keys to the original Satoshi wallets, otherwise there's no real proof. Several people have claimed to be Satoshi, but nobody's yet been able to provide cryptographic proof of it.

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Quote from: justdimin on October 15, 2024, 01:44:33 PM

Peter Todd already talked about how this is idiotic, and I agree with him. To think a documentary would figure out what tens of millions of people around the world couldn't figure out was a funny idea to begin with, and I believe nobody believed them when they said they found who the real satoshi is anyway. They are making some stupid thing for purpose of getting marketing for free and they got what they wanted as well, they got extra attention thanks to this.

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They need to make a bomb on media to maintain their user base and this film can be one of their attempts for it. If Peter Todd sues HBO, this documentary film can bring big side effects to HBO.

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I believe Peter Todd should sue, I believe there will be a good amount of money to be made from this, I am not sure if he can sue HBO because they just pay the producer, so Peter could sue the producer or the director because this is definitely not ok. They may have ruined his life for a while, from now on he is going to be known as the satoshi guy from that doc someone watched, and this is a forever thing. He should sue for damages, and using his name like that, for a big lie that anyone can watch.

He can sue HBO for this documentary film about a terrible conclusion that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. That claim from HBO will bring many problems to Peter Todd, more noise around him, more threats on his life and his family too. Law allows him to sue against HBO if he wants and I believe Peter Todd can easily win it.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

There was no hype, only newbies, though maybe HBO exposed who the real Satoshi is like all this time they were keeping his secret lol. Peter Todd is not the real Satoshi. as he also said he is not the real satoshi, just like many other people claim they are satoshis while they are not and some are called satoshi by others while they also disagree that they are the founders of BTC.

I think the founder of BTC is no more, as he is some guy who belongs to Japan and I have firm belief he must be from Japan. I think we should avoid this conversation and try to move on in our lives I think it don't matter anymore now who is satoshi where he is, what he is doing because BTC has come a long way and made its reputation.

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I'm all Satoshi and not peter Todd or any other self proclaimed or pubic proclaimed Satoshi nakamoto.
And trust me just like it was been said in the documentary Satoshi knew that if Bitcoin suceeded then the government or other elites would want to get hold of the owner of the highest share of it.

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 08, 2024, 11:01:13 PM

HBO just brought Peter Todd into the spotlight, and he might have to need private security to move around because he is now a big target for criminals. If I were in his shoes, the next step would be to sue the producers of the documentary for telling lies and exposing me to danger.

Peter Todd already talked about how this is idiotic, and I agree with him. To think a documentary would figure out what tens of millions of people around the world couldn't figure out was a funny idea to begin with, and I believe nobody believed them when they said they found who the real satoshi is anyway. They are making some stupid thing for purpose of getting marketing for free and they got what they wanted as well, they got extra attention thanks to this.

I believe Peter Todd should sue, I believe there will be a good amount of money to be made from this, I am not sure if he can sue HBO because they just pay the producer, so Peter could sue the producer or the director because this is definitely not ok. They may have ruined his life for a while, from now on he is going to be known as the satoshi guy from that doc someone watched, and this is a forever thing. He should sue for damages, and using his name like that, for a big lie that anyone can watch.

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There is no hype with the documentary to be honest. Many from the forum don't even bother to watch that on HBO and are looking for other sources.

See, the curiosity is there but with the hype that has been told about that docu is nothing.

Quote from: avp2306 on October 14, 2024, 05:43:00 PM

If they can't subscribe on HBO then I guess much better if they wait for ready to watch video available in meta,youtube or any media platforms since provably that there's someone will release a video about this documentary.

Or it's much better not to watch it at all. Tongue

But it is true that just after a couple of months, there will be reuploads for sure but I won't take that risk in downloading with the links that are telling it's the "free" episode.

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I dont think there is a publicly available link to the documentary since it airs on the commercial HBO Max streaming platform. Unless, perhaps, its already available as an illegal torrent download. But posting such links is not allowed here.

I am careful with links for downloading. Let curiosity misleads us to download unknown links from Torrent or any source, is very risky in security of our devices and accounts, then money.

Scam book writes about most common scams in cryptocurrency. Download these things can make our devices infected and become targets of Ransomware attacks or Clipboard hijacking attacks.

Sharing such links are not allowed in the forum, first copyrights issue and second if they are malicious links, your account will be banned.

Exactly we must be careful towards downloading since some idiots might take advantage on the hype or curiosity to watch HBO documentary so maybe best not to download any links unless if it came from credible sources.

If they can't subscribe on HBO then I guess much better if they wait for ready to watch video available in meta,youtube or any media platforms since provably that there's someone will release a video about this documentary.

Totally agree. As it was said, it's important to stay vigilant. It seems as convenient to download it from any source given, however, you could be potentially rugged into something that would harm you much later. It should be avoided.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 11, 2024, 09:50:53 PM

Quote from: Stalker22 on October 11, 2024, 04:43:28 PM

I dont think there is a publicly available link to the documentary since it airs on the commercial HBO Max streaming platform. Unless, perhaps, its already available as an illegal torrent download. But posting such links is not allowed here.

I am careful with links for downloading. Let curiosity misleads us to download unknown links from Torrent or any source, is very risky in security of our devices and accounts, then money.

Scam book writes about most common scams in cryptocurrency. Download these things can make our devices infected and become targets of Ransomware attacks or Clipboard hijacking attacks.

Sharing such links are not allowed in the forum, first copyrights issue and second if they are malicious links, your account will be banned.

Exactly we must be careful towards downloading since some idiots might take advantage on the hype or curiosity to watch HBO documentary so maybe best not to download any links unless if it came from credible sources.

If they can't subscribe on HBO then I guess much better if they wait for ready to watch video available in meta,youtube or any media platforms since provably that there's someone will release a video about this documentary.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 11, 2024, 09:50:53 PM

Quote from: Stalker22 on October 11, 2024, 04:43:28 PM

I dont think there is a publicly available link to the documentary since it airs on the commercial HBO Max streaming platform. Unless, perhaps, its already available as an illegal torrent download. But posting such links is not allowed here.

I am careful with links for downloading. Let curiosity misleads us to download unknown links from Torrent or any source, is very risky in security of our devices and accounts, then money.

Scam book writes about most common scams in cryptocurrency. Download these things can make our devices infected and become targets of Ransomware attacks or Clipboard hijacking attacks.

Sharing such links are not allowed in the forum, first copyrights issue and second if they are malicious links, your account will be banned.

Yeah, even if such a link would be shared with a good intention, everybody should stay vigilant and stay safe for their own good. Thanks for the info provided!

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Peter Todd making sure people know the crooked marketing methods they go with is clear indication how people would do whatever they can to get more views. I mean this is a HBO documentary, they didn't need to lie about anything to get some viewership, they would be still just doing one time job there probably and this would not change anything, just because they did some marketing doesn't mean they will get better job there and more budget for their next project, they did a terrible marketing which was mocked so they would be a terrible decision for HBO to keep working with them, hence there is no reason why they would do this.

If they did an honest to god marketing about what they actually shot, then they could have done better marketing and wouldn't be mockery of the crypto world neither. Probably some producer who doesn't even know about crypto ended up handling this, and this is why they ended up with all this humiliation from the world of crypto.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on October 11, 2024, 04:43:28 PM

I dont think there is a publicly available link to the documentary since it airs on the commercial HBO Max streaming platform. Unless, perhaps, its already available as an illegal torrent download. But posting such links is not allowed here.

I am careful with links for downloading. Let curiosity misleads us to download unknown links from Torrent or any source, is very risky in security of our devices and accounts, then money.

Scam book writes about most common scams in cryptocurrency. Download these things can make our devices infected and become targets of Ransomware attacks or Clipboard hijacking attacks.

Sharing such links are not allowed in the forum, first copyrights issue and second if they are malicious links, your account will be banned.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 11, 2024, 03:26:46 PM

Can you send me link to the documentary?

I dont think there is a publicly available link to the documentary since it airs on the commercial HBO Max streaming platform. Unless, perhaps, its already available as an illegal torrent download. But posting such links is not allowed here.

Quote from: KingsDen on October 11, 2024, 03:26:46 PM

The evidence you narrated here sounds so frivolous. Infact how did they know Satoshi's pizza toppings? I really need to see the documentary.

I believe there is an urban legend that satoshi liked pineapple and jalapenos on pizza. I dont know where it came from, either from emails or his forum posts.

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Quote from: icalical on October 10, 2024, 05:29:18 PM

I don't watch the full show but one of the evidence in the documentary was a blatant joke, Todd and Satoshi having the same favorite pizza topping, pineapple and jalapeno, it felt more like a wild goose chase than some legit reveal. Moreover this is not the first time the Satoshi identity debate has been turned into a field day. Every time people fall for these big "reveals," it never leads anywhere. Ultimately, the market didn't even bat an eye. You know, for all intents and purposes, the Satoshi documentaries and rumors only feed curiosity, not actual progress in crypto. So much more is going on, which is important, other than chasing ghosts.

Can you send me link to the documentary? The evidence you narrated here sounds so frivolous. Infact how did they know Satoshi's pizza toppings? I really need to see the documentary.

In the other hand, what if Peter acknowledged that he was Satoshi according to HBO documentary. What do you think would have happened?

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The way I see it, this is a part of the manipulation. Why would they hype it so much if they had no evidence? Maybe the answer is money, views, subs?
Have you noticed the priced slightly dropped a day before the premiere? I wouldn't be surprised if a hedge fund was planning to get some more cheap coins by shaking out leverage.

The community knew they had shit and they knew it, yet they hyped it knowing this was going to be another "great reveal" like the one where they claimed it was Dorian Nakamoto because you know, his name is Nakamoto and he does computer stuff Cheesy

They spent so much time with Back though. I wonder how much they paid him.

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Quote from: FortuneFollower on October 11, 2024, 04:49:14 AM

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HBO want to make noise, and get good marketing effects from this movie. They knew that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Peter Todd, but it's their bad product because if Peter Todd get dangerous physical attacks, how will HBO pay for this cost?

They can do the movie with misinformation, to get benefit but if includes risk on Peter Todd, I really dislike HBO.

Yeah, heard about the risks for Todd too, I do think that in some years to come, the story will repeat itself, money will be made, and it all will be forgotten. As it should be.

I don't think they will just feature anybody without their consent, so those people agree too and knows the risk that entails with it. It can also be for the money on why they do risky stunts like this.

I think this is not new, so I also believe that the story or history like this will still repeat. That being said, it won't actually be forgotten but it will always be remembered. Also because crypto/BTC is so influential right now and it is always a big deal for the community if there are issues like this where the founder of BTC (Satoshi) is now being involved. Remember Craig Wright? I think there are other Faketoshi's too apart from him and our memories about them are still fresh.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on October 11, 2024, 04:47:50 AM

HBO want to make noise, and get good marketing effects from this movie. They knew that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Peter Todd, but it's their bad product because if Peter Todd get dangerous physical attacks, how will HBO pay for this cost?

They can do the movie with misinformation, to get benefit but if includes risk on Peter Todd, I really dislike HBO.

Yeah, heard about the risks for Todd too, I do think that in some years to come, the story will repeat itself, money will be made, and it all will be forgotten. As it should be.

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Quote from: nomachine on October 10, 2024, 12:39:21 AM

Claiming Peter Todd is Satoshi because he knows C++ is like saying I'm Michael Jordan because I can dribble a basketball. 😂

They were many programmers who knew of C++ years ago but there were not many Cypherpunks and HBO can use them to limit less potential candidates for Satoshi Nakamoto.

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HBO must have run out of plot twists if they think that makes someone Satoshi! I guess next they'll reveal that Satoshi is actually...the Easter Bunny 🐰.

HBO want to make noise, and get good marketing effects from this movie. They knew that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Peter Todd, but it's their bad product because if Peter Todd get dangerous physical attacks, how will HBO pay for this cost?

They can do the movie with misinformation, to get benefit but if includes risk on Peter Todd, I really dislike HBO.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

By seeing those documentary released by HBO it made me follow to the guy they pointed out and people really feel crazy about that revelation they made. But actually HBO didn't do any good revelation since its like they are just guessing without giving any strong proof.

So after those documentary released it didn't clear up things and Satoshi identity remains mystery. Many people in crypto didn't believe on what they release so its like this is failed revelation in their side and guess that HBO just don't care about what people think since their main intention is to gather viewers and money for documentary they released.

Although I don't think its waste of time watching the documentary since somehow I enjoy the aftermath of the show they released.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 09, 2024, 08:27:41 AM

People who understand about Bitcoin will not believe in it, and can not identify Satoshi Nakamoto or any Bitcoin owner if there is no signed message from a private key of a public address that is known. Another way is message signed with PGP key.

Without these messages with Bitcoin private key and PGP key, anyone who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, is not enough to prove it like Craig Wright failed.

Satoshi is alive and even now making transactions on his accounts.

For example 5 accounts:

Created 2009.01.29: 1C4rE41Kox3jZbdJT9yatyh4H2fMxP8qmD
Created 2009.01.30: 18E5d2wQdAfutcXgziHZR71izLRyjSzGSX
Created 2009.01.31: 13J8FkimCLQ2EnP1xRm7yHhpaZQa9H4p8E
Created 2009.01.31: 1MBBJBFEaYKHFZAeV7hQ7DWdu3aZktjzFH
Created 2009.02.02: 1CGT3Ywaa2upJfWtUtbXonDPNTfZPWqzmA

Each account had 50 BTC frozen, which were transferred on 2024.09.20.

Let me remind you:
2009-01-03 - Satoshi Nakamoto generated the first Bitcoin block (received 50 BTC).
2009.01.10 - The second to generate a block was the late Hal Finney (received 50 BTC).
2009-01-12 - First transaction, Satoshi transferred 10 BTC to Hal Finney.

The real Satoshi is Adam Back.

Why Adam Back?

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2024, 11:21:06 PM

It was hyped simply because it's HBO. HBO had the funds to make a very interesting and high-production-value documentary with good marketing. This is to be expected, as with having a lack of research and instead just focused on making the documentary look enticing.

That's funny because to me it looks like some BS time-waster.

They did make a ton of money off of this but at Peter Todd's expense.

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Quote from: o48o on October 10, 2024, 10:49:12 AM

I have only seen people speaking about this because i actively read crypto feeds, and in every single one people have just been repeating the point of view of how ridiculous this hbo "research" would be, and how dumb it ended up to be.

Good effort from HBO. The movie is rated well, but it's like trying to tell and convince people that in the middle of a hot day, it's going to rain soon..

I personally would rather focus on what he's done and just move on because finding out about Satoshi is not the main goal for now.

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Quote from: o48o on October 10, 2024, 10:49:12 AM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Who are these gurus that anticipated that? It would have been sell the news event if anything, and it wasn't anything like everyone thought. Nothing new was revealed. Actually less was revealed that already has been known.

I have only seen people speaking about this because i actively read crypto feeds, and in every single one people have just been repeating the point of view of how ridiculous this hbo "research" would be, and how dumb it ended up to be.

Also no matter how bad this was, focusing on the fact that someone denies being Satoshi shouldn't be news as they have done all they could to hide their identity. Denying of being Satoshi isn't proof of anything either.

I saw a whole x thread on how to trade the event.

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I don't watch the full show but one of the evidence in the documentary was a blatant joke, Todd and Satoshi having the same favorite pizza topping, pineapple and jalapeno, it felt more like a wild goose chase than some legit reveal. Moreover this is not the first time the Satoshi identity debate has been turned into a field day. Every time people fall for these big "reveals," it never leads anywhere. Ultimately, the market didn't even bat an eye. You know, for all intents and purposes, the Satoshi documentaries and rumors only feed curiosity, not actual progress in crypto. So much more is going on, which is important, other than chasing ghosts.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Who are these gurus that anticipated that? It would have been sell the news event if anything, and it wasn't anything like everyone thought. Nothing new was revealed. Actually less was revealed that already has been known.

I have only seen people speaking about this because i actively read crypto feeds, and in every single one people have just been repeating the point of view of how ridiculous this hbo "research" would be, and how dumb it ended up to be.

Also no matter how bad this was, focusing on the fact that someone denies being Satoshi shouldn't be news as they have done all they could to hide their identity. Denying of being Satoshi isn't proof of anything either.

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Quote from: albon on October 09, 2024, 02:24:40 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The meme coins based on Solana that were linked to Todd saw a big pump, but HBO was just a joke, and they made some hype for a few days. Still, I am grateful that Peter Todd is alive to respond to these allegations and deny them. How can the market react to a documentary with stupid conclusions like this, as if they don't know about online forums on the internet? I agree with what Todd said on his official account on X that it was just a marketing ploy by Cullen Hoback to promote his film, so I hope this matter is not given more than it deserves. Satoshi will remain a mystery forever, and we should always know that documentaries and their producers are primarily for profit and controversy, regardless of anything else.

Source: https://x.com/peterktodd

Yeah, I saw him laugh in their faces and deny any of their so-called "evidence", and I hope everything will be alright with him after all this debacle.
Polymarket popped like a bubble with many getting their money on Sassaman Roll Eyes

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Claiming Peter Todd is Satoshi because he knows C++ is like saying I'm Michael Jordan because I can dribble a basketball. 😂

HBO must have run out of plot twists if they think that makes someone Satoshi! I guess next they'll reveal that Satoshi is actually...the Easter Bunny 🐰.

Let's be real: the only way to prove who Satoshi is involves those elusive private keys, not random internet posts.

HBO, if you're listening, please focus on facts next time—before Peter Todd needs a body double just to go to the grocery store! 🍿

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Indeed this whole documentary thing is getting too much like what’s more special finding Satoshi funny enough they’re actually wrong probably but it seems they’re doing this for the crowd. They actually succeeded, almost everyone getting excited to watch more about this documentary, I have a lot of questions to ask concerning the documentation because it takes a lot to find Satoshi and it also takes a lot to cook up false story. They might be right also wrong at same time let’s just imagine they get to know Satoshi which is impossible so what’s the gain? Revealing someone else privacy is unnecessary at this point seeing bitcoin growth now, it’s obvious Peter Todd will need to stay safe.

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Quote from: albon on October 09, 2024, 02:24:40 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The meme coins based on Solana that were linked to Todd saw a big pump, but HBO was just a joke, and they made some hype for a few days. Still, I am grateful that Peter Todd is alive to respond to these allegations and deny them. How can the market react to a documentary with stupid conclusions like this, as if they don't know about online forums on the internet? I agree with what Todd said on his official account on X that it was just a marketing ploy by Cullen Hoback to promote his film, so I hope this matter is not given more than it deserves. Satoshi will remain a mystery forever, and we should always know that documentaries and their producers are primarily for profit and controversy, regardless of anything else.

Source: https://x.com/peterktodd

Marketing ploy for sure.
Thanks for the inside I didn't know of such memes

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Quote from: bit3012009 on October 09, 2024, 08:32:21 PM

Quote from: hd49728 on October 09, 2024, 08:27:41 AM

People who understand about Bitcoin will not believe in it, and can not identify Satoshi Nakamoto or any Bitcoin owner if there is no signed message from a private key of a public address that is known. Another way is message signed with PGP key.

Without these messages with Bitcoin private key and PGP key, anyone who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, is not enough to prove it like Craig Wright failed.

Satoshi is alive and even now making transactions on his accounts.

For example 5 accounts:

Created 2009.01.29: 1C4rE41Kox3jZbdJT9yatyh4H2fMxP8qmD
Created 2009.01.30: 18E5d2wQdAfutcXgziHZR71izLRyjSzGSX
Created 2009.01.31: 13J8FkimCLQ2EnP1xRm7yHhpaZQa9H4p8E
Created 2009.01.31: 1MBBJBFEaYKHFZAeV7hQ7DWdu3aZktjzFH
Created 2009.02.02: 1CGT3Ywaa2upJfWtUtbXonDPNTfZPWqzmA

Each account had 50 BTC frozen, which were transferred on 2024.09.20.

Let me remind you:
2009-01-03 - Satoshi Nakamoto generated the first Bitcoin block (received 50 BTC).
2009.01.10 - The second to generate a block was the late Hal Finney (received 50 BTC).
2009-01-12 - First transaction, Satoshi transferred 10 BTC to Hal Finney.

The real Satoshi is Adam Back.

That's bold revealing the identity of Satoshi in your first post on here.

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Quote from: Ambatman on October 09, 2024, 12:02:55 AM

To your topic question
What has been more Hyped than the HBO doc?

That would be the Fiat system.

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

I'm quite surprised they were individuals that were expecting something of concrete.
I'm a very curious person but the documentary never piqued my interest
Even if they wanted to speculate, I believe they could have done better with their marketing strategy and their reveal.

Yah 100% supper-hyped fiat is, in all ways imaginable/unimaginable. But I failed to include a "recently" somewhere in the question.
I wasn't sure they were going to have something legit. my main concern was its impact on the market.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2024, 11:21:06 PM

It was hyped simply because it's HBO. HBO had the funds to make a very interesting and high-production-value documentary with good marketing. This is to be expected, as with having a lack of research and instead just focused on making the documentary look enticing.

Yah the money and Crypto Bros too were in on the hype and I guess for free

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Quote from: Reatim on October 08, 2024, 11:02:18 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

We all knew that it was just going to be a theory and that they will not have an answer for sure. Notice how it is deliberate they say that it is 'likely' for Satoshi to be Peter Todd. They did not claim that that is 100% true. I have not watched the documentary but I will definitely check it out even if I already know that at the end of it, they just presented us with more questions and less answers.

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There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

There was hype because they made it seem like they actually found the real Satoshi. Thankfully they did not create some blatant lie to sell the documentary. It would have affected the market more if they actually had a breakthrough but so far from what I have seen, they do not seem to have presented something no one knows yet.

It is kind of funny that Peter Todd denied immediately the accusations making the documentary almost pointless.

I knew it was gonna be a theory but still with the way it was going it had the feel of them actually revealing something legit and actually changing the landscape

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 08, 2024, 11:01:13 PM

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The documentary brought more questions than answers. How can you depend on someone's reply to a post as a basis or main evidence for your conclusion? There was not even one compelling evidence that Peter Todd is Satoshi. Just because he claimed to be knowledgeable about C++ and made an erroneous post doesn't make the dude Satoshi. Everyone knows the litmus test to prove who Satoshi is: The private keys to his wallet. I hope Cullen Hoback achieved his aim of making the documentary which is to make money.

HBO just brought Peter Todd into the spotlight, and he might have to need private security to move around because he is now a big target for criminals. If I were in his shoes, the next step would be to sue the producers of the documentary for telling lies and exposing me to danger.

Effective immediately I will sue.

Unfortunately most criminals out there lack the ability to verify this information and will just go ahead a trust a popular source like HBO.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 09, 2024, 08:27:41 AM

People who understand about Bitcoin will not believe in it, and can not identify Satoshi Nakamoto or any Bitcoin owner if there is no signed message from a private key of a public address that is known. Another way is message signed with PGP key.

Without these messages with Bitcoin private key and PGP key, anyone who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, is not enough to prove it like Craig Wright failed.

Satoshi is alive and even now making transactions on his accounts.

For example 5 accounts:

Created 2009.01.29: 1C4rE41Kox3jZbdJT9yatyh4H2fMxP8qmD
Created 2009.01.30: 18E5d2wQdAfutcXgziHZR71izLRyjSzGSX
Created 2009.01.31: 13J8FkimCLQ2EnP1xRm7yHhpaZQa9H4p8E
Created 2009.01.31: 1MBBJBFEaYKHFZAeV7hQ7DWdu3aZktjzFH
Created 2009.02.02: 1CGT3Ywaa2upJfWtUtbXonDPNTfZPWqzmA

Each account had 50 BTC frozen, which were transferred on 2024.09.20.

Let me remind you:
2009-01-03 - Satoshi Nakamoto generated the first Bitcoin block (received 50 BTC).
2009.01.10 - The second to generate a block was the late Hal Finney (received 50 BTC).
2009-01-12 - First transaction, Satoshi transferred 10 BTC to Hal Finney.

The real Satoshi is Adam Back.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The meme coins based on Solana that were linked to Todd saw a big pump, but HBO was just a joke, and they made some hype for a few days. Still, I am grateful that Peter Todd is alive to respond to these allegations and deny them. How can the market react to a documentary with stupid conclusions like this, as if they don't know about online forums on the internet? I agree with what Todd said on his official account on X that it was just a marketing ploy by Cullen Hoback to promote his film, so I hope this matter is not given more than it deserves. Satoshi will remain a mystery forever, and we should always know that documentaries and their producers are primarily for profit and controversy, regardless of anything else.

Source: https://x.com/peterktodd

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 08, 2024, 11:01:13 PM

The documentary brought more questions than answers. How can you depend on someone's reply to a post as a basis or main evidence for your conclusion? There was not even one compelling evidence that Peter Todd is Satoshi. Just because he claimed to be knowledgeable about C++ and made an erroneous post doesn't make the dude Satoshi. Everyone knows the litmus test to prove who Satoshi is: The private keys to his wallet. I hope Cullen Hoback achieved his aim of making the documentary which is to make money.

I was expecting something shocking with unknown arguments before. Still, then I remembered that this is a documentary made by HBO, which wants to generate revenue by selling HBO subscriptions. Then I also asked myself, if they really found a new satoshi, wouldn't that information be leaked? There is no way their team knew the real identity of Satoshi and someone inside didn't leak the information before the documentary debut.

HBO's argument was that Peter Todd comment - "Of course, to be specific, the inputs and outputs can't match *exactly* if the second transaction has a transaction fee." after Satoshi's post, meant that it was Satoshi himself and accidentally posted via Peter's account. This is funny but at the same time shameful from a company that made one of the best TV shows.

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No reaction is exactly what they expect. Until Millions of Satoshi's BTC is dumped and there will be no reaction still.

What got into HBO for publishing such documentary when it has proven nothing. But then this kind of documentary and claims are going to be usual and then one day Satoshi is going to send his million BTC somewhere and yet no market reaction will happen. This is just programming us all to something we will not react even when its real already.

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Do not expect that these hyped documentaries are going to move the market. What's more recognizable that can move the market? Some of the X accounts from the popular people twitting about dogs, frogs, cats, and other animal types of memecoins. And most of the people don't have enough time to watch long hours or minutes of these documentaries and that's why many just chooses to read the reviews from the people who have watched it. So, where's the hype with that? only to the ones who have made it and it seems that there's really no excitement from the end of the community.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 09, 2024, 09:28:18 AM

HBO is spreading wrong information about who Satoshi is and if a documentary like this can draw more attention, I guess HBO is misusing the opportunity of his documentary to extort the public with fake information about the identity of Satoshi when he knows that it is impossible for anyone to know who Satoshi is. Only dumb ass will believe all the cooked stories in HBO documentary.

I am Satoshi and I live in space where I have a bitcoin Island. If you want to see me, come over to space as I am working on a new project, and it will take me up to two years to finish this project. I know some dumb ass might want to come to space to see if it is true. When you are successful people frame up a lot of stories about you and claim to be your friend. Satoshi, bitcoin have made you like a god on earth that nobody has seen.

HBO is rolling down with the hype on it, and in some years, I do think we will see even more "films" like that. Just you wait:

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HBO is spreading wrong information about who Satoshi is and if a documentary like this can draw more attention, I guess HBO is misusing the opportunity of his documentary to extort the public with fake information about the identity of Satoshi when he knows that it is impossible for anyone to know who Satoshi is. Only dumb ass will believe all the cooked stories in HBO documentary.

I am Satoshi and I live in space where I have a bitcoin Island. If you want to see me, come over to space as I am working on a new project, and it will take me up to two years to finish this project. I know some dumb ass might want to come to space to see if it is true. When you are successful people frame up a lot of stories about you and claim to be your friend. Satoshi, bitcoin have made you like a god on earth that nobody has seen.

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Quote from: Taskford on October 09, 2024, 07:51:18 AM

Now Todd is gaining a lot of unnecessary attention and let see what possible action he do regarding on HBO claims.

Only amateur people believe in what revealed in HBO documentary film.

People who understand about Bitcoin will not believe in it, and can not identify Satoshi Nakamoto or any Bitcoin owner if there is no signed message from a private key of a public address that is known. Another way is message signed with PGP key.

Without these messages with Bitcoin private key and PGP key, anyone who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, is not enough to prove it like Craig Wright failed.

Quote from: theymos on April 25, 2013, 01:12:22 PM

Quote from: mokimarket on April 24, 2013, 07:39:38 PM

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

Now what next with this after they made that claims? Todd denies his involvement with Satoshis identity. Its like HBO just pointing fingers towards possible candidate but they don't show any great proof that can unveil the mask of Satoshi Nakamoto. What they did leaves great question that what documentary they show is true or just base on their mischievous thinking.

There was to much hype on their documentary release since HBO is big platform. But they didn't satisfied the old lads on crypto since many think about what they released is not actually mind blowing.

Now Todd is gaining a lot of unnecessary attention and let see what possible action he do regarding on HBO claims.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

It was obvious from the start that it was just a futile exercise. What were they thinking? Satoshi would just admit to them that he was Satoshi the inventor of Bitcoin? I just don't understand what they were planning to gain from all that show they put up and to me was just a waste of time. I guess if the real Satoshi is still alive and seeing this. He will just be smiling at their foolishness right now. Someone who decided to exit the public a decade ago will just burst out of the dark and says he is was the one? They should end this their hunt for Satoshi as it's becoming a waste of their effort and research..

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Stirring up controversy in this way and reaching this result makes me unwilling to watch the documentary. They are looking for profits more than it is historical documentation or a narration of some facts, and therefore all the information contained in the documentary is questionable.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".

Peter Todd denied that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.

Quote from: theymos on October 04, 2024, 12:13:36 PM

Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
- Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
- 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
- 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
- 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
- 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

I don't know X users have same candidates like ones shared by theymos.

Several topics on this HBO's documentary film.
Satoshi Identity Revealed LOL
Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery (2024 documentary)
Could this just be the "LAMEST" News?

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I don’t get why people are so hyped about that documentary. The whole “revealing Satoshi” thing is already misleading. Satoshi will stay anonymous, and there’s no reason for him to come forward. HBO is just trying to ride the Bitcoin hype, like they always do. It’s surprising that some people still fall for it.

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 08, 2024, 11:01:13 PM

HBO just brought Peter Todd into the spotlight, and he might have to need private security to move around because he is now a big target for criminals. If I were in his shoes, the next step would be to sue the producers of the documentary for telling lies and exposing me to danger.

I support this, I guessed he should warn HBO now that if he or his love ones suffers any criminal attacks in regarding this claim, then they should be ready to pay for the damages and every stress they will cause them also.

There have been others who have been victims of this, which is very disturbing to their personal life, HBO only got good marketing but empty proof, though I hope he sue them for this, then it will become a lesson for others not to wide their mouth for nothing.

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I have not seen the documentary yet but from the reactions on social media it appears to have been a dud. The filmmakers were probably just looking to make a quick buck and created a narrative that was convincing enough for a major platform, like HBO, to give them a lot of money. The speculation on Satoshi’s identity has become a sideshow. The whole Craig Wright saga was such an embarrassment and now people are just picking names at random. People are taking advantage of genuine curiosity for their personal financial gain. It is no longer interesting and we should completely ignore this nonsense from now on.

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To your topic question
What has been more Hyped than the HBO doc?

That would be the Fiat system.

Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

I'm quite surprised they were individuals that were expecting something of concrete.
I'm a very curious person but the documentary never piqued my interest
Even if they wanted to speculate, I believe they could have done better with their marketing strategy and their reveal.

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It was hyped simply because it's HBO. HBO had the funds to make a very interesting and high-production-value documentary with good marketing. This is to be expected, as with having a lack of research and instead just focused on making the documentary look enticing.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

We all knew that it was just going to be a theory and that they will not have an answer for sure. Notice how it is deliberate they say that it is 'likely' for Satoshi to be Peter Todd. They did not claim that that is 100% true. I have not watched the documentary but I will definitely check it out even if I already know that at the end of it, they just presented us with more questions and less answers.

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There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

There was hype because they made it seem like they actually found the real Satoshi. Thankfully they did not create some blatant lie to sell the documentary. It would have affected the market more if they actually had a breakthrough but so far from what I have seen, they do not seem to have presented something no one knows yet.

It is kind of funny that Peter Todd denied immediately the accusations making the documentary almost pointless.

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Quote from: asonganyi on October 08, 2024, 10:22:24 PM

The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

The documentary brought more questions than answers. How can you depend on someone's reply to a post as a basis or main evidence for your conclusion? There was not even one compelling evidence that Peter Todd is Satoshi. Just because he claimed to be knowledgeable about C++ and made an erroneous post doesn't make the dude Satoshi. Everyone knows the litmus test to prove who Satoshi is: The private keys to his wallet. I hope Cullen Hoback achieved his aim of making the documentary which is to make money.

HBO just brought Peter Todd into the spotlight, and he might have to need private security to move around because he is now a big target for criminals. If I were in his shoes, the next step would be to sue the producers of the documentary for telling lies and exposing me to danger.

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The HBO Satoshi reveal turned out to be a no-event.
As their Pick wrote on X " I AM NOT SATOSHI".
X user had a more convincing candidate.

There was just too much hype about the documentary, and the market didn't react to its release as some gurus anticipated.

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