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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 06:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I participated in hundreds of online poker tournaments and played, probably, thousands cash games. Also, I've watched tons of poker related videos on YouTube, presented by FuryTV, PokerStars and such. And, from my experience, there is no such thing as unbeatable poker player. And it's not just because "we all make mistakes" kind of thing. From my point of view, good poker players lose big sometimes not because of their "mistakes", but because of bad luck.

So, I'd rather try my luck on my own instead of shifting responsibility for the possible loss on someone else.

but what OP says (for Example) so this stands for all games as well.or maybe OP is just comparing the card games in Our Local version of Poker as Pusoy ,and in this game we compete with others and if you are lucky you can win continuously as i have experienced the same wayback.
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But how can you rely on someone's luck? Why not to think that you are equally lucky, which is logical, btw?

I mean, I know that some good pro poker players have sponsors, who pay for some huge buy-ins, but being on the place of the sponsor, I'd rather play myself. But, well, that's me, I don't judge them or anything. I understand that, even though luck is a major factor, investing in a good poker player you have slightly more chances of winning in the end.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 06:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I would be interested to beat him instead of to join him, simply because I like poker and it would be nice to play against someone who is so great in poker game. I would not care losing some money (not much) if I can play against professional poker player as it would be something like unforgettable story in my life. If I win against him then it will be great as I can beat great player but if I lose then at least I can feel the beauty of playing poker against a great player.

If the joining that the OP is referring to here is working with him as a team to have better chances of making the game really though for the opponent based on my skills, and if it is going to also involve money coming out of it, I would really prefer to join him than to work against him, but if the guy is feeling too proud like he is a champion and also making it known to people or bragging about it that he is unbeatable, I would rather play against him, if after watching his own strategies that looks unbeatable and I feel that I can do better.

What makes one better and more professional in life is when you face some though challenges that feel like it is unbeatable; you should through that experience also gather more experience about the game for further development.

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Totally non sense to beat him, I'd rather seat beside him and cheer him more and who knows he could give me some share. HAHAHA!

But seriously, asking him how he do that can't guarantee me that I could also win, we all have strategy that we discover along our gambling journey and little by little we realized that this strategy can't work in certain scenario. It's actually more on trial and error and losses comes along with it.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 02:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

And I believe it so...Even how you're close to each other but can't guarantee that he would love to tell you anything he does in order to continue his winning streak. It is to know that we can't fully mirror someone, especially in gambling cause that person surely hides something and that is his/her big asset. That means that, if our friend straightly wins, it can't be possible that will happens to us also. It is all the luck that he has wich we don't have.

Even if we do just put their situation on our own feet then for sure you wont tend to tell your secrets 100% on how to win but even if you do
you cant really mimic 100% on others because luck isn't the same on each person.

Yeah you know that you can perform out those so called strategies but pretty sure that outcomes wont really be that the same.

Of course, it is impossible for an individual to tell everything you do or your style when playing especially to some stranger who just makes friends with you so suddenly. It is also impossible to imitate his moves and apply them to your own game style.

Actually I've tried it before, and yes, you are right. Even after applying the strategies of other people, the same thing did not happen to me.

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A poker table isn't like roulette tables or other tables... It's PvP.

If you see a complete monster at the table who is rolling everyone, then you either wait until he's gone or play at another table.

This isn't a video game, it's not a competition about who is better, it's about who can win more. Only a complete fool would try to beat a pro.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 14, 2019, 06:42:43 PM

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 02:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

And I believe it so...Even how you're close to each other but can't guarantee that he would love to tell you anything he does in order to continue his winning streak. It is to know that we can't fully mirror someone, especially in gambling cause that person surely hides something and that is his/her big asset. That means that, if our friend straightly wins, it can't be possible that will happens to us also. It is all the luck that he has wich we don't have.

Even if we do just put their situation on our own feet then for sure you wont tend to tell your secrets 100% on how to win but even if you do
you cant really mimic 100% on others because luck isn't the same on each person.

Yeah you know that you can perform out those so called strategies but pretty sure that outcomes wont really be that the same.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 02:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

This is a double edged sword, you could learn his skills but you can never copy his applications, like when is the right time you will apply it to overcome a tough situation or the other way around, just ask him about his experience and some tips on winning, figure out your own strategy and no doubt, it will work for you every single time.

E D I T: Don't rush yourself learning in gambling, or you'll find yourself losing with your self-proclaimed "skills"

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 06:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

What? How can you also be able to win if you joined a hustler in the table? In poker, all is your opponent. Hmm, maybe I just don't understand what you really mean. Anyway, in such cases like this l will definitely stop for a while because I knew he was a threat to my money Grin

. If he was my friend and do not play however giving real time advice to me on what I should do or not then probably that's the time I play with no hesitations. I will never treat my friend a 'friend' if he is playing along with me because everyone is your opponent when it comes to fight for money.

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Quote from: Reatim on November 14, 2019, 01:41:22 PM

But we have our own perception in gambling and i respect yours but if given a chance then i will grab to be against the consistently winner lol.

Don't try to be over confident,yes human has ego but think in smart way you are not going to lose anything if you skip the game but if you try to win someone who won particularly on the game then you will have no exception from his loser list. Grin

Quote from: cabalism13 on November 15, 2019, 05:29:00 AM

It's been nice to see that we're on our page 5 again, only a bit hours left before we end this part 5 of our what if, and again thanks for those users who participated on this topic, I also hope you will be able to join us in this coming week ao just stay tuned.

I am excited about the next what IF situation.

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It's been nice to see that we're on our page 5 again, only a bit hours left before we end this part 5 of our what if, and again thanks for those users who participated on this topic, I also hope you will be able to join us in this coming week ao just stay tuned.

Only a few users have distinguished the topic that this is not just about poker. LOL.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 06:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

If I would see a fellow gambler that looks unbeatable and he always win on the poker table, then I would join on his/her side for me to gain the strategies and skills that he is doing because it looks that he already master on how to play poker that's why he/she is unbeatable. Aside from getting skills and strategies from him, I may get also winnings and earnings for this in order to have profit from the gambling if I will join forces with him. It is a very lucky day if he/she will allow me to join on his side to earn and gain experience on how they are playing poker and it would be a win win situation.

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I will go with the easy way, of course I will just join him and enjoy winning.
Beating a man that is so lucky is like bumping your head in the wall, I am able to say this due to my long experience in gambling.
Although I don't believe in superstitious but there are times and situation that I have to consider believing it, and that's what I've stated above.

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Quote from: RivAngE on November 14, 2019, 06:29:54 PM

If it was any other kind of game (non-gambling), I'm a competitive person so I'd challenge him if I felt that I'm also good at this game.
But I'm also very careful with my money, so I wouldn't go against a beast-player in a gambling game!

nope it is not beast in that game instead just getting luck,so if you are a competitive person?then this is your chance to beat him.

anyway since you also mentioned being careful for your money,then i can see the competent you have is smaller than what i expected so better keep safe.

Quote from: aioc on November 14, 2019, 11:08:31 PM

I'm not good at poker and it's a waste of effort and money if I will challenge him so I prefer joining him and maybe he can give me tips on how to win continuously in Poker, Poker is very much different from other gambling because you need skills to win here not only luck and this guy combine the two.

thats even better to think of our money specially if we are not good on that specific game,so betting with the Lucky one can bring us more chance of winning than competing .

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 06:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I'm not good at poker and it's a waste of effort and money if I will challenge him so I prefer joining him and maybe he can give me tips on how to win continuously in Poker, Poker is very much different from other gambling because you need skills to win here not only luck and this guy combine the two.

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Quote from: Oilacris on November 14, 2019, 05:35:41 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 02:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

And I believe it so...Even how you're close to each other but can't guarantee that he would love to tell you anything he does in order to continue his winning streak. It is to know that we can't fully mirror someone, especially in gambling cause that person surely hides something and that is his/her big asset. That means that, if our friend straightly wins, it can't be possible that will happens to us also. It is all the luck that he has wich we don't have.

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Quote from: RivAngE on November 14, 2019, 06:29:54 PM

If it was any other kind of game (non-gambling), I'm a competitive person so I'd challenge him if I felt that I'm also good at this game.
But I'm also very careful with my money, so I wouldn't go against a beast-player in a gambling game!

But he's just lucky and I think he's not that good but just lucky. Are you still willing to go against him or nah let his luck suck out and then I go against him. Cool

But if you know you can't beat a lucky guy then move on to another table. Cheesy

Sometimes you just love to watch these guys if you know what they were doing. But if you saw a serious player that doesn't give any sign of emotions. You probably stay with them I guess but if you feel like going against them then try it out. Wink

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If it was any other kind of game (non-gambling), I'm a competitive person so I'd challenge him if I felt that I'm also good at this game.
But I'm also very careful with my money, so I wouldn't go against a beast-player in a gambling game!

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 02:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

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Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

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Quote from: Reatim on November 12, 2019, 10:06:47 AM

from what is written in OP has two choices mate,its Either you play with the lucky one or Play against him,so which one have you tried and fail?sorry but i think i have missed something?of its your post is not relevant at all?

I tried to play against the one,I lost.If I tired to join the person who won few times also lost this time.So I meant to say that I will skip that game won't join or try to win as well.

oh that's it?now i see the point mate sorry because its not clear if i will just rely on your post lol,thanks for clearing.

Quote from: Natalim on November 14, 2019, 09:20:38 AM

I'm not good in poker but if I have to play then I would just join him, this is a very effective strategy as I have already done this before in different gambling game. Like in sports betting, if I see someone who is very consistent with his picks, then I would prefer to follow his beat while he is still hot.

this means you become a lucky charm as well to those whom you bet with?nice of you because mine?i have no luck for others but i think i will be lucky if i go against him.

but we have our own perception in gambling and i respect yours but if given a chance then i will grab to be against the consistently winner lol.

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