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Quote from: joinfree on November 03, 2019, 05:21:31 AM

Quote from: gogxmagog on October 25, 2019, 04:53:36 AM

Satoshi wrote:

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"

from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6269

I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago.

Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.

I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .

Oh come on dude, you can't be realistic about such an ambiguous statement from Satoshi. This can simply mean anything looking at the context in which the statement was made. It could mean the following:
1. First of all, i think Satoshi was kind of bored with the question that was asked him looking at all the down to earth explanation that he has already given the text.
2. He might also have run out of patience when some users fail to read provided information and always want to be spoon fed.
3. Your thinking also comes in but i think it's far fetched than the two above.

This is so simple and linear to think. That's why I'm not convinced by this version.

Anyway I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm just expressing my thoughts of perplexity on this subject.

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Quote from: gogxmagog on October 25, 2019, 04:53:36 AM

Satoshi wrote:

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"

from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6269

I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago.

Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.

I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .

Oh come on dude, you can't be realistic about such an ambiguous statement from Satoshi. This can simply mean anything looking at the context in which the statement was made. It could mean the following:
1. First of all, i think Satoshi was kind of bored with the question that was asked him looking at all the down to earth explanation that he has already given the text.
2. He might also have run out of patience when some users fail to read provided information and always want to be spoon fed.
3. Your thinking also comes in but i think it's far fetched than the two above.

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Personally, I think that we should stop trying hard to convince people to enter the cryptoworld. If they don’t want then stop. There are things that aren’t for all and I knew some people now that Bitcoin had been all ober the national news they would approach me and ask how to enter the game. It is a matter of how interested they are which would come to then naturally as many people would use it or be in the game eventually.

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Everyone thinks about what everyone is more likely to do.

That's why I expressed my concern on this.

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In my opinion, Satoshi’s life concerns only himself, and we can’t do anything if he died due to an illness. Are you surprised that a person can die? Do you want to get a lot of spam? Admins can close the thread discussion. And that would be reasonable.

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Quote from: gogxmagog on October 25, 2019, 04:53:36 AM

Satoshi wrote:

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"

from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6269

I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago.

Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.

I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .

You are the only one with that kind of explanation from that line of words, my explanation on that and so are the others is he has so many things to do that he don't want to further explain, what he already explain in full, let's admit it, not all of us can easily understand, and many of us here wants a long explanation on simple things.
That's my take on this he don't want a long explanation on something that is pretty obvious.

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Quote from: gogxmagog on October 25, 2019, 04:53:36 AM

Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.

I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .

That's a ridiculous way of thinking. "I dont have time" means a lot of things and thinking you're gonna die sooner or later Isn't the perfect time say it. This isn't a love story in the movie.

Let's put it on your situation. Let's say You're too busy doing daily trades with crypto and taking care of some business/investment in crypto space as well, then here comes the people who came to you asking what is Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, then you'll tell them everything but didn't believe you. Do you think they are worthy of your time to keep telling these people the definition of Cryptocurrency as a whole over and over again?

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The most logical assumption that most people would make, was that it was a sick Hal Finney that made that statement, because he was already ill at the time that Satoshi made that statement. I think most serious developers are very busy in any way and they simply do not have the time to spoon feed people into grasping what this was all about.

They constantly work hard on several projects at a time and you seldom see them spending hours on detailed communication to educate people. Most answers to questions are short and to the point. Wink

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As for me, Satoshi's valuing his time and he doesn't want to waste it explaining and convincing people to believe in Bitcoin since he already knows its capability to grow as a currency in the future. I agree that he's a smart and busy person. However, we can't conclude his personality through that short statement. We still don't know if he's still existing now.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on October 25, 2019, 10:58:35 AM

I don't know... Satoshi can be dead by now, for sure. It could be Dave Kleiman, it could be someone else.

It wasn't dave or hal or anyone else on your suspected list, even though it seems some of the people early on thought it was hal doing a funny.

It doesn't really matter who he was, it was very clear on topic

If you do not understand what BitCoin is about, there is the white paper and the code Satoshi has delivered in a very good and clear purpose. If you still don't get it, just push back and learn, but don't alter it and call it still BitCoin

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Quote from: Kyraishi on October 27, 2019, 03:47:12 AM

Quote from: gogxmagog on October 25, 2019, 04:53:36 AM

Satoshi wrote:

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"

from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6269

I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago.

Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.

I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .

I think your grabbing at straws here mate... Just saying you don't have time could mean a variety of reasons, could mean that you can't be bothered arguing with the person, or know they won't understand you - him having cancer or knowing he was going to pass away isn't really the most viable option here.

Whatever satoshi is, dead or alive, he is definitely having a fun time chuckling at all of these theories about him, and he's definitely pretty happy he's started a money revolution.

To make it simple, it's not worth his time to explain and become convincing in front of anyone. If they don't believe it, then don't waste any of your time.
Satoshi or whatever his or their real name is, I think they are still watching over bitcoin and I think they expected the thing that is already happening in bitcoin right now.

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Quote from: gogxmagog on October 25, 2019, 04:53:36 AM

Satoshi wrote:

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"

from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6269

I reflected upon this statements so many times since i discovered Bitcoin long time ago.

Today I had an idea: I don't have time sounds to me like someone who knows that he doesn't have time. I mean someone who knew his life was going to end soon. Maybe he had cancer and he was going towards a sure death in few time.

I thought about this for the first time today and I have such a realistic feeling about this..I can't explain .

I think your grabbing at straws here mate... Just saying you don't have time could mean a variety of reasons, could mean that you can't be bothered arguing with the person, or know they won't understand you - him having cancer or knowing he was going to pass away isn't really the most viable option here.

Whatever satoshi is, dead or alive, he is definitely having a fun time chuckling at all of these theories about him, and he's definitely pretty happy he's started a money revolution.

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Wow, this is really a food for thought and I have never really thought of that phrase in this regards, but I know that we have deep thinkers and great people that knows how to analyze things, and you are absolutely right, what if satoshi only spoke in parable there, maybe this idea has actually been with him for a very long time, but had to use his last strength to create something that will be of immense usefulness to the world.

I hope it is not true anyway, because i would really love him to be recognize for the great thing he has done in the world and for his coins sitting down there he deserves to be the richest man in the world with it, but if he knew he was dying, he would have just willed those coins to his next kin, maybe he had already done that anyway we don’t know and the next of kin is yet to be known.

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Quote from: Oceat on October 25, 2019, 05:05:23 PM

Quote from: acroman08 on October 25, 2019, 05:26:54 AM

Nah, the word "I don't have time" can mean so many things. you can check this thread. but him suddenly leaving
the project really gives you that kind of thoughts. but in the end, we don't know what really happened to him and we are
left wondering about it.

I've checked the thread but haven't found any useful replies since no one really like to talk about it. But it leaves me wondering he may be had a health issue or he maybe have had a trouble coming that he wanted to disappear already into the ether realm.

And for the OP thread—the "I don't have time" just means that he really don't want to spend most of his time explaining to everyone since he already gave all of the required information for his project. And he just wants to move forward instead of sticking around just to prove something. He knows it better than you.

the link was just to give the OP the Idea that satoshi just moved to other projects and not because he is dying when because he said: "I don't have time".
we clearly know what satoshi really meant when he said that. the OP just took it out of context and put other meaning to it.

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Quote from: Ferris419 on October 26, 2019, 02:04:21 AM

No, it's not like that. That statement means he was very confident about what was he doing! He created the blockchain technology and he knew that it will be accepted by the world with the time. That's why he said if you don't believe my invention, you can ignore, I don't have time to waste to convince you! It's you, you will get it in the future.

Yes, he just said that he has no time to explain his self to those negative people who doesn't care at all and those who are close minded person, but, still if he don't want to disclose himself, then we should just respect it. I think he's not dead yet and he's still here in this forum checking news and he still care about Bitcoin

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No, it's not like that. That statement means he was very confident about what was he doing! He created the blockchain technology and he knew that it will be accepted by the world with the time. That's why he said if you don't believe my invention, you can ignore, I don't have time to waste to convince you! It's you, you will get it in the future.

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Whether if he is still living, dying, or already dead, he doesn't have to teach everyone about bitcoin. That's why we're here to spread awareness about bitcoin, correct their mindset that bitcoin isn't just about scams and illegal activities.
Btw, how did you say that maybe he has a cancer? Maybe if there's really a hidden message, he would've encrypt it. Or it has been already noticed by people. We can't really say that tlhe put a hidden message becayse there's only one evidence you're claiming.

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You're right, those words give that feeling of having been written by a person who senses his death, the subject of Satoshi Nakamoto is wrapped in so much mystery, perhaps the first people were used with the intention of maintaining the anonymity of Nakamoto, it is possible that it is an intelligence group that planned everything in detail, maybe later the truth will come to light.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 25, 2019, 05:26:54 AM

Nah, the word "I don't have time" can mean so many things. you can check this thread. but him suddenly leaving
the project really gives you that kind of thoughts. but in the end, we don't know what really happened to him and we are
left wondering about it.

I've checked the thread but haven't found any useful replies since no one really like to talk about it. But it leaves me wondering he may be had a health issue or he maybe have had a trouble coming that he wanted to disappear already into the ether realm.

And for the OP thread—the "I don't have time" just means that he really don't want to spend most of his time explaining to everyone since he already gave all of the required information for his project. And he just wants to move forward instead of sticking around just to prove something. He knows it better than you.

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i guess you too many have a speculation on your head, isn't ?
or you are anime maniac wich thinking satoshi seems like demigod wich have a limit time in this world Grin

based from his speaking style, he seems a optimistic person about what he think and do.
and about : I don't have time its mean, he is a people who don't like to argue about something, in a short sense, for example,:
"based on all the research I've done so far, I say the earth is sphere, if you don't believe it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry (which means please do your own research rather than spending time arguing,and prove that I'm wrong)"

and well, date of that post is 29 july 2010, just one month before Bitcoin Value Overflow Incident.
and right, he doesn't have time for argue.

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