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Topic: What if this Aug 1 HF is a Conspiracy - page 2. (Read 1510 times)

legendary
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July 29, 2017, 09:15:19 AM
#13
Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

Regarding BCC: https://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-explainer-bitcoin-cash-forking-blockchain/

"”If the Segwit2x agreement fails to implement the 2x part, which is not entirely unreasonable, and only ends up being being basically SegWit without the 2x, many miners will likely defect to Bitcoin Cash." - BCC dev

Miners feel that 2x fork will get rejected by the market, so they would rather mine big block altcoin with no Segwit (BCC), instead of big block altcoin with segwit (2x fork).

It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit,

correct

Incorrect. Segwit2x was created because miners got scared of UASF, and tried to compromise with users by merging Segwit and big blocks, but majority of users will most likely reject 2x fork. Miners have baited themselves.
legendary
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July 29, 2017, 08:50:32 AM
#12
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit,

correct
legendary
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July 29, 2017, 07:49:57 AM
#11
Of course all this happening is never different on 2014 or so on, they have to FUD to make profits. The bitcoin drama will never end because of the greedy people. But its still healthy for bitcoin tho.

You should see FUD & pathetic noob dumping as an opportunity to buy in. Always buy on bad news, sell on good news bro.
legendary
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July 29, 2017, 07:45:45 AM
#10
the august 1st USAF segwit (advocated by samson mow with his hat giveaway) - the actual hard fork pretending to be soft

the segwit2x(bip91) by gavin/garzic (bloq)

the segwit november 2016-2017 (bip9/141) by blockstream

are all linked

samson mow works for both BTCC and blockstream
segwit2x by bloq

and look who they are paid by
barry silbert of DCG.co

check out the portfolio http://dcg.co/portfolio/#b

they pretend to be opposition, they pretend to be hostile, but in the end its all just drama to confuse sheep to force through segwit.

...
what i found funny is from late 2015-mid 2017. core, wuille, gmax, luke Jr.. even with lots of drama, lots of paid for all inclusive vacations/table meetings. all the propaganda, all th rekt campaigns to attempt to make people hate gavin and others.. meaning 2 years and loads of money...

all it took was letting gavin and garzic make an implementation and within weeks changed the sheeps minds..
it was gavin and garzic that moved people into jumping for segwit.

just shows that gmaxwell and blockstream should just code something that actually showed more possibility of meeting community needs rather than fighting or throwing excuses why a possible baseblock change shouldnt happen

next time. gmax should just give the community what they want or atleast stop shouting empty promises that dont even have code to promise
newbie
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July 29, 2017, 03:57:42 AM
#9
Bitcoin cash people stated repeatedly that segwit has a complex code and very much complicated, it means they don't have the knowledge and skills required to understand it, so they figured why the hell lets simplify this shit by forking our own coin and earn a few hundred millions in the process.
That's what I call conspiracy. they are conspiring to earn more money, idiots.
Greed is the number one problem we face in the world today so many people want to acquire wealth above every other person taking advantage of the the lower class society not minding the effect on them. At the end of the day no one will say he said and took these monies to the after life. Lets all be moderate with whatever wealth we have and give thanks daily. Of what Use is greed when death is at everyone's door waiting for the right time. Got nothing else to say  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
copper member
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Merit: 899
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July 29, 2017, 02:57:29 AM
#8
Bitcoin cash people stated repeatedly that segwit has a complex code and very much complicated, it means they don't have the knowledge and skills required to understand it, so they figured why the hell lets simplify this shit by forking our own coin and earn a few hundred millions in the process.
That's what I call conspiracy. they are conspiring to earn more money, idiots.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1860
July 28, 2017, 08:39:01 PM
#7
I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.

This world of crypto is controlled by big whales. They are living in Mount Olympus and are controlling how this world works. Conspiracy? Well, kind of, but it is actually manipulation. The big boys you are talking about are holding us in the neck. I was thinking the way out of this game is to think otherwise. Go against the crowd in other words.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 28, 2017, 08:23:00 PM
#6
Of course all this happening is never different on 2014 or so on, they have to FUD to make profits. The bitcoin drama will never end because of the greedy people. But its still healthy for bitcoin tho.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 263
July 28, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
#5
Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

this drama will never end,i don't know it's conspiracy or not but what i know is they'll come back.
they will do this again over and over,just like when the first time we encounter Bitcoin Core,
after that we can see Bitcoin Unlimited and right now Bitcoin Cash,
they're always said 'Bitcoin is dying and the problem that Bitcoin faced can not be solved except Hardfork'.

and that statement,i am totally agree with you.If you guys heard something from them that mean a discount will come.
buy as much as you can and in the few days everything is pay off.
Garvin did it back then in 2016ish and it works,so what is the different right now ? Nothing
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 523
July 28, 2017, 07:45:17 PM
#4
Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250
July 28, 2017, 07:21:49 PM
#3
I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.


This could be the conspiracy of the large bitcoin owners, they make an issue that can give them a profit, they just buy at the bottom price and sell again on top, always so
The point is only the price game just because the effect that as reported
newbie
Activity: 60
Merit: 0
July 28, 2017, 06:58:01 PM
#2
Probably is
its nice i see some 1 having same ideas with me
newbie
Activity: 60
Merit: 0
July 28, 2017, 06:24:03 PM
#1
I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.
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