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Topic: What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work? - page 2. (Read 409 times)

legendary
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Is there a way for the gambling site to perform a "Man in the middle" attack to hijack the process and to push a simulated version of this process? They provide some in-house tool with exploits to verify the bet, but they game the outcome of the verification process by intercepting the outcome of the output and replacing it with their own doctored result?

Can we trust the in-house verification software that are provided by the gambling site or is there another site where this can be double checked? 
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The problem with it is that people do not usually check if its actually provably fair or not because it can be quite complicated, various casinos were found to be cheating even though they were using provably fair systems, in theory.

I have to agree that not all gamblers use the system to check their bets. I'm not quite sure why but it seems something related to "trust", once gamblers trust the site then they wont really care about their bets no matter win or lose. The other reason could be about knowledge, maybe some gamblers does not even aware how provably fair system works so they do not care about it so their main idea is to gamble only without worrying about being cheated if they play on non provably fair sites.

I agree, even I sometimes do not verify my bet when gambling  Grin Not because I don't want to, maybe because of trust and sometimes it's tiring to check your bets from time to time. When I was new in gambling I don't really care about this as long as I am playing. Grin
legendary
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The problem with it is that people do not usually check if its actually provably fair or not because it can be quite complicated, various casinos were found to be cheating even though they were using provably fair systems, in theory.

I have to agree that not all gamblers use the system to check their bets. I'm not quite sure why but it seems something related to "trust", once gamblers trust the site then they wont really care about their bets no matter win or lose. The other reason could be about knowledge, maybe some gamblers does not even aware how provably fair system works so they do not care about it so their main idea is to gamble only without worrying about being cheated if they play on non provably fair sites.
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The problem with it is that people do not usually check if its actually provably fair or not because it can be quite complicated, various casinos were found to be cheating even though they were using provably fair systems, in theory.
sr. member
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Great explanations of the meaning provably fair gambling, I always look if the casino is Provably fair when I want to join a new gambling site.  Casinos games need to be played in a fair environment so everyone has an even chance of winning.

This is a detailed explanation of provably fair and this is helpful for new online gamblers.
Gamblers prefer gambling sites that has provably fair system. It builds confidence and builds trust to users.
 
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Most trusted gambling site use provably fair system, for players to verify each bet if it is rigged or not. Thank you for posting a complete and comprehensible definition of provably fair system in gambling. The links will be useful for gamblers to verify if a site uses the system in their platform. Thanks for sharing the links OP.
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Provably Fair
Provably fair gambling is a process whereby a player can verify that the outcomes of games have been fair in real time.

It makes use of these three technology:
Random Number Generators
  • Random number generators generate millions of numbers per second and determine game outcomes.
Seed Generators
  • Seed generators create the numbers which are fed into algorithms, which in turn determine outcomes. In provably fair systems, players get to add a seed number, ensuring the casino isn’t in control of the outcome.
Hashing
  • Hashing is the transformation of a longer string of data into a shorter string. In the context of provably fair gambling, when a seed number is hashed, it is encrypted. For all practical purposes, the cryptographic hashes used at Bitcoin gambling sites are considered unbreakable. This means you can be sure they haven’t been tampered with.


How does provably fair work?
Although there are several implementations of the provably fair method, we will describe the most common one. With this method each roll-result is calculated by the following variables:

Serverseed - provided by the gambling site
  • You will get an encrypted hash of the serverseed before you start gambling. Since you get it in advance, the site cannot change it later. However it is encrypted, so you cannot calculate your own roll results in advance (only afterwards if you get the unhashed serverseed.)
Clientseed - provided by your browser and adjusted by you
  • Your browser will generate a random clientseed. However, you could and should adjust this clientseed before you start. This way you can make sure the site does not know your clientseed in advance.
Nonce - A number that increases with each bet you make
  • Now if you make a bet the nonce starts with 0 or 1 depending on the website. After each bet you make, the nonce number will go up by 1.


How do you know if a Bitcoin Gambling is Provably Fair?

The easiest way is to use provably fair verifiers.
Here Are the list:
BetKing verifier
BetterBets verifier
BitDice.me verifier
Bitsler verifier
Crypto-Games.net verifier
Just-Dice.com verifier
Nitrogen Dice verifier
Primedice verifier
SafeDice verifier



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