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Quote from: L.g.b.t on January 29, 2017, 04:10:37 AM

Quote from: Ecxz on December 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM

I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

Both had same big risk and big profit. But from my experience in gambling it will need more pure luck than investing which will need more analitycal skill..

Note : what i mean for investing here were stock/index/valas/etc market not ponzi things..

It had been established that both have risk (gambling and investing) but the difference between the two is that investment risk can be mitigated by studying the market and, researching factors that affects the markets volatility and gambling has internal system that is independent from the outside factors.

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Quote from: Ecxz on December 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM

I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

Both had same big risk and big profit. But from my experience in gambling it will need more pure luck than investing which will need more analitycal skill..

Note : what i mean for investing here were stock/index/valas/etc market not ponzi things..

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

You are throwing away your the money either way if you don't know what to do with your money then you could just keep your bitcoin and wait for a price increase with the volatility of bitcoin you will not have to wait for a long time.

In investment, holding the bitcoin is better, Otherwise it doesn't mean that we should deny gambling. Because if i see my work with bitcoin so i guess investment and gambling, both give me good response and i have earned from both of them. That's why in my view, both are better.

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

You are throwing away your the money either way if you don't know what to do with your money then you could just keep your bitcoin and wait for a price increase with the volatility of bitcoin you will not have to wait for a long time.

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

Investing is not just all about trading, for me trading is still better than gambling. Because in trading you should really have an always update to what is happening with your trades and it is not just with winning. That's the disadvantage of gambling, as you have said in the long term we already know what's the down fall of it, we will just lose in the end.

If you are good at trading you can definitely earn some good profit from it. If you are good at trading you won't buy those shitcoins nowadaws which is always just a pump and dump scheme. If you really want to earn profit from trading you won't just buy those coins without researching about it first. You will first do some research about it if it is good for the long term and whatsoever.

Even how good you are in trading still there are times that you can't earn good enough as no one can really predict the movement of alt coins and bitcoins in the market. But comparing it to gambling of course many will say that trading is their choice so do I. Because in gambling you can just lose as many as you can without fighting.

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Quote from: BlockEye on January 11, 2017, 11:23:01 PM

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

How about you just avoid them? Dump coins are pretty obvious. You can tell by just looking at the chart. If no one's buying/selling, then the market is already dead, thus, a dump coin. Altcoins are having high prices because people hype the coin up, and other people buy it. Just invest in new ICOs and then sell the coin after a month or two. Just always keep an eye on the market and on the news, though, because sometimes the dev leaves the project. Investing in ICOs come with risks as well atleast it's not as much risk when you gamble.

it is not just simple on looking and observing to the chart so that we can avoid shit coin because of dump. Not all coins that being dump too much according to the chart is a shit coin, i will an example coin, For example ICN(iconomi) its price when it opens in the market is above its ICO price and then dumps hard after a month at to the point that its value is just almost 40% of ICO price and then pump after 2-3months later. This coin is a strong coin. I think it is better to make a research if a coin has a lot of supporter better than looking at price chart.

I didn't say anything about not "looking again" at the charts every now and then. A new altcoin will always get dumped because the people that has participated in the signature campaign, facebook campaign, twitter campaign, etc. will sell their coins right away since most of them don't actually care about the coin. There are some of them that are going to hold it because it's too late for them to sell at ICO price, the price has already dumped.

Anyway, he's right. Maybe at the moment that you looked at the chart of a certain altcoin, it was being dumped. But sometimes those dumps is a good thing since it enables you to buy at low price even though most times a major dump means the people are "done" with the altcoin or something's wrong with the team of the coin.

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

you can easily ignore the shitcoins and only stick to the real deal which is the good bitcoin and some of the good altcoins that are available. then invest in those that have a future to be able to make a profit.

but in gambling it is all your luck and you can do nothing about it. and in the long run it is sure thing to lose.

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Quote from: BlockEye on January 11, 2017, 11:23:01 PM

Quote from: Xenophoto on January 11, 2017, 11:09:07 PM

Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

How about you just avoid them? Dump coins are pretty obvious. You can tell by just looking at the chart. If no one's buying/selling, then the market is already dead, thus, a dump coin. Altcoins are having high prices because people hype the coin up, and other people buy it. Just invest in new ICOs and then sell the coin after a month or two. Just always keep an eye on the market and on the news, though, because sometimes the dev leaves the project. Investing in ICOs come with risks as well atleast it's not as much risk when you gamble.

it is not just simple on looking and observing to the chart so that we can avoid shit coin because of dump. Not all coins that being dump too much according to the chart is a shit coin, i will an example coin, For example ICN(iconomi) its price when it opens in the market is above its ICO price and then dumps hard after a month at to the point that its value is just almost 40% of ICO price and then pump after 2-3months later. This coin is a strong coin. I think it is better to make a research if a coin has a lot of supporter better than looking at price chart.

We can only say it's strong once it proven it, during the ICO it is a complete gamble to buy an assets as we just based our prediction on the road map of a certain project and ICN is just good that when it is listed in a specific exchange the price is above the ICO price. It's a quick profit actually and your effort to make a good research before investing just paid off. I believe that participating in an ICO is profitable especially in altcoins.

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Quote from: Xenophoto on January 11, 2017, 11:09:07 PM

Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

How about you just avoid them? Dump coins are pretty obvious. You can tell by just looking at the chart. If no one's buying/selling, then the market is already dead, thus, a dump coin. Altcoins are having high prices because people hype the coin up, and other people buy it. Just invest in new ICOs and then sell the coin after a month or two. Just always keep an eye on the market and on the news, though, because sometimes the dev leaves the project. Investing in ICOs come with risks as well atleast it's not as much risk when you gamble.

it is not just simple on looking and observing to the chart so that we can avoid shit coin because of dump. Not all coins that being dump too much according to the chart is a shit coin, i will an example coin, For example ICN(iconomi) its price when it opens in the market is above its ICO price and then dumps hard after a month at to the point that its value is just almost 40% of ICO price and then pump after 2-3months later. This coin is a strong coin. I think it is better to make a research if a coin has a lot of supporter better than looking at price chart.

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

Investing is nothing but not only in altcoins but there are many other good options are available. You can just keep your bitcoins over the time prices will go up or you can lend money with proper collateral or you can invest in good casino bankrolls or you can buy gold or property or you can invest in good company shares and many other things. But I don't suggest anyone to use gambling to earn or grow your money. It is only for enjoyment purpose only.

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

How about you just avoid them? Dump coins are pretty obvious. You can tell by just looking at the chart. If no one's buying/selling, then the market is already dead, thus, a dump coin. Altcoins are having high prices because people hype the coin up, and other people buy it. Just invest in new ICOs and then sell the coin after a month or two. Just always keep an eye on the market and on the news, though, because sometimes the dev leaves the project. Investing in ICOs come with risks as well atleast it's not as much risk when you gamble.

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Quote from: tabas on January 11, 2017, 06:57:17 PM

Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

Investing is not just all about trading, for me trading is still better than gambling. Because in trading you should really have an always update to what is happening with your trades and it is not just with winning. That's the disadvantage of gambling, as you have said in the long term we already know what's the down fall of it, we will just lose in the end.

If you are good at trading you can definitely earn some good profit from it. If you are good at trading you won't buy those shitcoins nowadaws which is always just a pump and dump scheme. If you really want to earn profit from trading you won't just buy those coins without researching about it first. You will first do some research about it if it is good for the long term and whatsoever.

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Quote from: TurbacoLiam on January 11, 2017, 06:14:08 PM

Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

Investing is not just all about trading, for me trading is still better than gambling. Because in trading you should really have an always update to what is happening with your trades and it is not just with winning. That's the disadvantage of gambling, as you have said in the long term we already know what's the down fall of it, we will just lose in the end.

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Considering the market has a tons of shit coins I think the best is to gamble and at least win if we are lucky that day. Though in long term invest is much better we all know.

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Quote from: FrannWilder on January 11, 2017, 02:16:00 PM

Quote from: Hammerschmidt on January 11, 2017, 01:14:13 PM

Quote from: Ecxz on December 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM

I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

No this is not true gambling is way riskier than investing, if you invest in a trusted party its safer, with gambling you are just betting on something and than its gone..

Thats the point mate with investing you have a lots of time to research and study the investment that you will going to support and entrusting your money so those scam site that mention can be avoided unlike with gambling you are entrusting your money with your luck and the risk of losing is much bigger since luck is not always around you.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on January 11, 2017, 12:53:38 PM

since bitcoin prices are down, probably a better investment for now. gambling can indeed increase your income in a short time, but it is uncertain. so, better look for something definite and has less risk. try to invest in one altcoin to be launched. if successful, then you will benefit greatly, but if not, then the money you invest will be refunded. try to invest in chronobank, I believe it would be beneficial altcoin.

I have had invested in a few altcoin icos and i can say that it's not worth it. you would be better off investing in casino's bankroll.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on January 11, 2017, 12:53:38 PM

since bitcoin prices are down, probably a better investment for now. gambling can indeed increase your income in a short time, but it is uncertain. so, better look for something definite and has less risk. try to invest in one altcoin to be launched. if successful, then you will benefit greatly, but if not, then the money you invest will be refunded. try to invest in chronobank, I believe it would be beneficial altcoin.

What do you mean by refunded? I have not been informed that such feature exist . Investing in altcoin has its risks there is no way that it will be safe and your money will be refunded if the coin fails . Of course the risk in investing on a launched and to be launched coin is different . I think it will be safer to invest on an already launched coin cause you can get some data that ICO's don't have for you to analyze .

I think he meant if the ico didn't reached it's funding goal, then we get refunded.

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Quote from: Hammerschmidt on January 11, 2017, 01:14:13 PM

Quote from: Ecxz on December 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM

I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

No this is not true gambling is way riskier than investing, if you invest in a trusted party its safer, with gambling you are just betting on something and than its gone..

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Quote from: Ecxz on December 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM

I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

These gambling sites you mention, they have like Blacjack and slots and poker? Stuff like that?

Sounds interesting.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on January 11, 2017, 12:53:38 PM

since bitcoin prices are down, probably a better investment for now. gambling can indeed increase your income in a short time, but it is uncertain. so, better look for something definite and has less risk. try to invest in one altcoin to be launched. if successful, then you will benefit greatly, but if not, then the money you invest will be refunded. try to invest in chronobank, I believe it would be beneficial altcoin.

What do you mean by refunded? I have not been informed that such feature exist . Investing in altcoin has its risks there is no way that it will be safe and your money will be refunded if the coin fails . Of course the risk in investing on a launched and to be launched coin is different . I think it will be safer to invest on an already launched coin cause you can get some data that ICO's don't have for you to analyze .

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since bitcoin prices are down, probably a better investment for now. gambling can indeed increase your income in a short time, but it is uncertain. so, better look for something definite and has less risk. try to invest in one altcoin to be launched. if successful, then you will benefit greatly, but if not, then the money you invest will be refunded. try to invest in chronobank, I believe it would be beneficial altcoin.

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