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legendary
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Thank you for your fast reply  malevolent. This means then that any Global Moderator / Admin can delete the reported posts, even from local board, right? Meaning it's not necessary for them to know that language, as I assume there are not Global Moderators / Admins for each local board. With other words, I should expect my reports to be handled / not handled by any of them, not just by Cyrus, is this correct?

They can, but I don't think they regularly handle reported posts in languages they aren't familiar with unless it's an obvious case. It's also possible for a user you report to be nuked e.g. for spamming somewhere else by any other mod, in that case afaik your reports get handled too as all their posts are deleted.
legendary
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Thank you for your fast reply  malevolent. This means then that any Global Moderator / Admin can delete the reported posts, even from local board, right? Meaning it's not necessary for them to know that language, as I assume there are not Global Moderators / Admins for each local board. With other words, I should expect my reports to be handled / not handled by any of them, not just by Cyrus, is this correct?
legendary
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All Global Moderators and Admins can moderate and handle reports from all sections. Some mods can delete Newbies' posts forum-wide. Only admins can see who handled someone else's report.
legendary
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It's been more than a week now and the rest of the reports are still unhandled, the the number of posts of goanadupabitcoin and Nea Sandu remained the same. Also, my accuracy remained 34% thus I'm sure the reports remained unhandled, since I didn't make any other reports since then.

Kind question to hilariousandco, mprep, malevolent or Welsh, since you are the mods / staff members who posted here: are my reports only handled by Cyrus, as the reported posts were all from Romanian board? Or could they be checked by other mod as well? I remember mprep said he marked a few reports of mine as bad thus I'm not sure how things work: for reports of local boards posts other mods can flag them as bad but the good ones are handled only by the mod of the respective local board? I'm asking to see if only Cyrus could handle these reports or maybe other mod can do that as well (especially for this case, where the shilling is in plain sight).

Also, can you see who handled the good reports of mine? As I mentioned in OP, a few hours after reporting all 100 posts, a few of them (8 of goanadupabitcoin) were deleted. Were they deleted by Cyrus ir by another mod?

Thanks!
legendary
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What ever dude! I'll just ignore you from now on... gl with your appeal !

Thank you and thank you. I'm glad my drawing helped you understand.
full member
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...This is the second time when you bump into my topics, looking just to embarrass yourself (I have to admit, you are very good at it). Now as many people don't know, I have to remind them our little history:

Now, with 74 merits, you have more than 1000% than in January. Still think it's hard to earn them, if we speak in percentages? Or are you here perhaps to double your merits once more in my topic? Lol.

2) Now, although this topic and the terminology are obvious for everybody, apparently for you it's still not clear somehow. Nor correct. Let me draw it for you, to help you understand.

I see free speech does not go well with you. Your way or the highway. Seems I'm the only person who disagrees with you. Stupid me...
WTF does merit have to do with this? Is there a thread you open that does not contain the word "merit" somewhere in the posts?

What ever dude! I'll just ignore you from now on... gl with your appeal !
legendary
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Not exactly shilling imo

In Romanian we have a saying: "if you wouldn't have talked, you could have been considered a wise person". The same is true for you, Chlotide.

This is the second time when you bump into my topics, looking just to embarrass yourself (I have to admit, you are very good at it). Now as many people don't know, I have to remind them our little history:

1) So at first, when I expressed my opinion that rank up is too easy (opinion which I'm still keeping, as reaching the half of merits for Legendary in only 5 months looks still too easy), you tried to look smart, saying why I'm not yet Legendary in Jan 2020, if I joined the forum in November 2017. Of course, without saying that I was inactive since I joined and until the end of Oct 2019. However, after embarrassing yourself pretty well, you managed though at that time to almost double your merits while writing in my topic, jumping from 4 to 7.

I see you advanced a bit, heh? Now, with 74 merits, you have more than 1000% than in January. Still think it's hard to earn them, if we speak in percentages? Or are you here perhaps to double your merits once more in my topic? Lol.

2) Now, although this topic and the terminology are obvious for everybody, apparently for you it's still not clear somehow. Nor correct. Let me draw it for you, to help you understand.

Excepting the definition you kindly shared with all of us - those which don't properly know the definition of the "shill" word from dictionary Wikipedia (which as you may not know, it is a regular site, updated by regular users, not academicians) - a definition which may (or may not) be correct, on the Internet (including this forum), the term "shilling" is used in various meanings, including the one I chose.

Now as you can see with your own eyes, many old users of the forum posted inside this topic, users with great contributions or with great knowledge. Including, but not limited to: Lauda, o_e_l_e_o, tranthidung, suchmoon, mprerp, hilariousandco, iasenko, The Pharmacist, Welsh, malevolent etc. However, none of them suggested I used the wrong term.

Excepting these users, let's come back to o_e_l_e_o's topic, mentioned by me in OP. He has there a more precise definition of shilling (I highlighted the words which should be of your interest, in order to be easier for you to observe them):

Topic: List of advertising shills. Mods please review and ban as appropriate.

~snip~
The users I will list below are users who either own or are being paid by a site or variety of sites to shill said sites. They largely post copy and pasted articles, add nothing of any value, and make zero effort to generate a discussion or actually contribute to the forum. Some also make low value, vaguely on-topic posts solely for the reason of shoehorning in a link to one of the sites. They are breaking rules regarding spam, low value posts, unsubstantial advertising, and advertising in other users' threads. I'm hoping that the moderators will hand out temporary bans to these users, and escalate this to perma-bans if their spamming doesn't stop.

These being said, I certainly hope you properly understood what I pointed out in this topic and, why not, double your merits again while embarrassing yourself writing in my topics.
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Oh well, I thought the case was onvious here. I don't think an user can spam the forum in 38% of his posts, shilling his website.

Not exactly shilling imo

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A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Shills can carry out their operations in the areas of media, journalism, marketing, politics, confidence games, or other business areas.
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

There should be a clear difference between providing a link on-topic with useful info. So what it's his website, we should link only to cointelegraph? And just spamming their own website randomly. I think spam marketing should be punished, not marketing all together. Wonder what other users in the Romanian board think about his posts
legendary
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Oh well, I thought the case was onvious here. I don't think an user can spam the forum in 38% of his posts, shilling his website.
legendary
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I understand, but is there an ETA until my other reports will be checked? I made the reports on April 16th and only a few have been analyzed on April 16th and 17th. Since then no other report was checked...

Some reports may remain unhandled forever.
Below is what is stated on report history page.

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When a report stays unhandled, this does not mean that no moderators were available to look at it; rather, it means that several moderators looked at it, but none of them was sure whether it should be acted upon or not. A report that stays unhandled can be thought of as "soft-bad", since no moderator positively thought that it warranted action.
legendary
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I understand, but is there an ETA until my other reports will be checked? I made the reports on April 16th and only a few have been analyzed on April 16th and 17th. Since then no other report was checked...
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Most of your reports are still in the queue. The ones that were seemingly marked as bad were the conovairus ones. There's two reported as shilling on posts from 2015 that have been marked as bad in the Romanian section. No idea who handled them but contacting Cyrus would be your best bet first.
I've marked several GazetaBitcoin's reports as bad since they were duplicates (as in he reported the same post several) times. IIRC I didn't handle any other reports of his.
Since when are duplicate reports being marked bad? Sounds like this could hurt the accuracy of those that mistakenly sometimes do it. No?
Since as far as I can remember. Not all mods mark them as bad, since not all mods notice they're duplicates. And yes, if you mistakenly do it sometimes, it will hurt your accuracy. If you want a perfect (100%) or close to perfect reporting acccuracy (which has very little meaning beyond vanity; according to theymos, total good reports + a decent accuracy is where it's at), you must have a perfect or near perfect track record. Seems fair for for such a high (and ultimately pointless) bar to reach. If maintaining a near perfect accuracy isn't your goal, the few duplicate reports mixed in with dozens or hundreds of good reports does very little to affect your accuracy.

In general I don't mark duplicates as bad. It's easy to make a mistake and they seem to be fairly rare though they do occasionally happen. The only exception I would make is if duplicate reporting becomes common by a certain user as it would be easier to bolster your report score if people were just spamming the report queue with duplicates all the time. I know some people care about their report accuracy a lot but as people have already said it's not something to be worried about really. Maybe on the new forum system duplicate reports from the same user could be ignored or grouped together.
copper member
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I've reported several dozen users' post histories and have seen a few times reports marked as 'good' despite a post having not been deleted. Moderator's discretion.
Accuracy really doesn't matter and though duplicates are annoying, they don't come up that often. I have 1103 bad reports with a 97% accuracy. Probably around 40% are from duplicated posts (network or human error)
hero member
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For situations like this I think it would be better if you just created a thread in the reputation board pointing out to the shilling they are doing rather than reporting each posts of the two users one by one. If they are simply talking about their website than reporting it even if it is shitty or worthless will always be 50/50 in my opinion as it cannot be counted as a abusive or wrongly posted message since they are just talking about their website and illegally promoting it. At least if you posted this in the reputation board you have the chance to have them tag and save you some time by reporting each and every single one of their post.
legendary
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Thank you for replies hilariousandco and mprep. I wasn't sure if I reported a few duplicates (but thought I did). However, those were 5 at most. I opened a tab for each shilling post and maybe I opened a few twice. It is understandable, since I opened about 100 tabs while looking over ~600 posts. Also, about the ones mentioned by hilariousandcofor being marked as bad, they are still shilling of that website, as you can easily see just by looking at the respective posts.

Indeed, as Lauda said, I didn't know that duplicate reports are marked as bad, nor I understand why. For example, if I report a post and then another user reports it as well, the report of second user is bad Huh

If you say many are still in the queue, I'll keep waiting for all to be solved... But until now there is no change since yesterday. First user still has 194 posts out of 202 and the second one has no post deleted.

Also, about the two other posts reported in 2015 and marked as bad... I hope it won't come true what I said above, worrying me lol.

I don't care too much about the 100% accuracy. It's just in this particular case, if even 1 link would be considered correctly reported, I assume then all of them should be considered the same as all the reported posts contain links of goanadupabitcoin.ro.

Just a tip. If you don't mind using scripts written by others you can use the script made by suchmoon which is very helpful when you report many posts in a thread.
You have predefined cases like zero-value posts, non-English, etc. If you open the whole thread in one windows ( if it is possible - "show all") then when you select one of the predefined cases it opens a new tab with the report and the post in the list is greyed out. If you send the report the post gets a yellow mark, if you cancel the report gets red mark.
The other cool thing is when you send the report the open tab automatically closes.
It makes the life of anyone reporting much easier.
legendary
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The current forum staff seems to be ICO/ANN bumping friendly, also off-topic and derailment friendly.
Mods have always seemingly been tolerant of the latter as long as I've been a member here--I've seen a lot of off-topic stuff not get deleted in the past, and that doesn't really bother me unless a thread completely morphs into something different.  As far as the problem of the former, I bet you that mods have thrown up their hands and given up at all the stupid bumping that goes on.  It would probably be a full-time job for multiple mods to handle all of that shit.

I don't know why OP's accuracy did what it did, though.  On the other hand, I wouldn't let that discourage him from reporting.  I'd also suggest not reporting each post for a single member but rather write in the details of the report that a member is consistently violating a rule.  At most I'd report three or so posts just to demonstrate your point (and that's only my personal suggestion).  Hilariousandco has suggested something similar in the past, and it makes sense.
legendary
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Second, in most cases deleting the post is all that is required and the reports will be automatically be marked as good (therefore, not really extra workload).

Global moderators (and admins) can have backlogs of several hundred reports, more reports means more scrolling when deciding which reports should be handled quickly.
legendary
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The reason duplicate reports are marked bad is because it would be easier for users to pad their report counts, as well as being extra workload of staff members.
First the report count is useless for anyone other than theymos, nothing is to be gained from this. Theymos could easily double check if majority are from double reports (Therefore this reasoning of yours is nullified). Second, in most cases deleting the post is all that is required and the reports will be automatically be marked as good (therefore, not really extra workload).
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Indeed, as Lauda said, I didn't know that duplicate reports are marked as bad, nor I understand why. For example, if I report a post and then another user reports it as well, the report of second user is bad Huh
No. Only if you report the same exact post  twice will it be marked bad. You can report multiple posts or all of a users posts if they are breaking the rules, but try not to make duplicate reports. The reason duplicate reports are marked bad is because it would be easier for users to pad their report counts, as well as being extra workload of staff members.

As for further explanation of why they were not all marked good, and assuming that they were not marked bad it would be best to contact the likely moderator that took action. Although, they are not required to answer.
legendary
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Thank you for replies hilariousandco and mprep. I wasn't sure if I reported a few duplicates (but thought I did). However, those were 5 at most. I opened a tab for each shilling post and maybe I opened a few twice. It is understandable, since I opened about 100 tabs while looking over ~600 posts. Also, about the ones mentioned by hilariousandcofor being marked as bad, they are still shilling of that website, as you can easily see just by looking at the respective posts.

Indeed, as Lauda said, I didn't know that duplicate reports are marked as bad, nor I understand why. For example, if I report a post and then another user reports it as well, the report of second user is bad Huh

If you say many are still in the queue, I'll keep waiting for all to be solved... But until now there is no change since yesterday. First user still has 194 posts out of 202 and the second one has no post deleted.

Also, about the two other posts reported in 2015 and marked as bad... I hope it won't come true what I said above, worrying me lol.

I don't care too much about the 100% accuracy. It's just in this particular case, if even 1 link would be considered correctly reported, I assume then all of them should be considered the same as all the reported posts contain links of goanadupabitcoin.ro.
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