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Topic: What is going here someone can explain to me pls guys (Read 455 times)

newbie
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(Anonymous guy)nick name 'mosa' :


Don't only pay attention to those scams, but also to those who stand by silently as they watch the scams. "If you see scam and do not say it scam, you are a the scam.
newbie
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We as a group have been working so hard in 2016/17 towards unity of all coins. Then a few years later we come back and see that the same shit is going on like it was before and our educations that took place on various livestreams are worth jack..

Pingip

We will come nowhere if we shit on other projects, just understand that no coin will survive without BTC. If BTC falls so will all other coins .. But if we accept the projects the other people bring into the space we will see a exponential rise of people and value. With that knowledge will come as well



i only happy when scams fall and there are quality projects but you already know the answer...

the information on the web mislead them to the wrong path and where all this info let say most of it on the main forums...

brand new
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We as a group have been working so hard in 2016/17 towards unity of all coins. Then a few years later we come back and see that the same shit is going on like it was before and our educations that took place on various livestreams are worth jack..

Pingip

We will come nowhere if we shit on other projects, just understand that no coin will survive without BTC. If BTC falls so will all other coins .. But if we accept the projects the other people bring into the space we will see a exponential rise of people and value. With that knowledge will come as well

legendary
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I think what OP is trying to say is the following:
in places like reddit, if you try to promote BSV or USDT for example, the mods will not allow you to do that and will ask you to fuck-off.
OP is implying that bitcointalk staff should do the same thing, he wants the few mods we have here to monitor every single topic/post that promotes shitcoins.

OP is just somehow disappointed with fact that mods allow posting about Libra, Tether or BSV on this forum, but (allegedly by him) this is not the case on Reddit, where mods delete such threads. We know that this forum is not Reddit, and that this forum have rules - you can post about any coin in dedicated board, and because of that we have Altcoins board.

I have to admit it was really irritating to see a large number of threads about Libra in Bitcoin Discussion and Economics, but if any users think that something is does not belong to a particular board just report such thread by clicking "Report To Moderator" button and report as "Spam" or "Low Quality Topic" or that topic should be moved to some other board.

This forum is old as bitcoin, and I agree that it is not perfect - but over the years we see a lot of good changes - what I would not like to see is that Reddit policy on Bitcointalk.
sr. member
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Hey mate, I am not sure if this was just an alt account or an account by a new member here. Have you seen the different sections in this forum? Like the Scam Accusations and Reputation ? May I ask if you are also aware of the Flag system where scammers and untrustworthy accounts are tagged? In case you are not aware yet, there are measures here to try to keep this forum safe from fraudsters.

Everyone can discuss any cryptocurrency here no matter how shitty it is to someone's eye and the community are free to agree or disagree.


in quality places only say Bitcoin sv and the mods say promote your scam elsewhere not here, and other also.
Read this SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper
sr. member
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well you should first try and improve your English skills and try to write a proper paragraph that is easy to understand and then invite people to some other place where you are supposedly "active"!
why would i or anybody else would want to see what you are saying elsewhere when it is impossible to understand what you are saying here?

english its just language mate, it dosen't measure intelligence and its done for a reason.

but it what worry you, so sad to see its your answer.

new people come to this industry' and go to forum like this and get LOST ...

do you know how much people fell to very deep depression and other shit because of crap information on forum like this and other shit forums.

on reddit just say something wrong and ton people debunk you include the mods.

someone said bitcoin sv is great coins after fem min 2 mods said him promote your scam elsewhere not here'.

or shitty accounts' tired to promote libra coin and the mods ever there siad clearly to stay away even everybody know this.

few quality places the mods and great user exposed the scam about tether coin stable and they print their money as much they want.

where the mods here, yet to ban great people they like.

this is how community grow and help new people fast get inside and save them from false paths on the way.

Language is important to convey your message.

People need to learn to think for themselves. The mods on reddit and other places are not people who's word is like law. Why listen to them? I don't see how all these coins can all be scams. I see little evidence.
So many people call scam too quickly. Give things a chance. Don't rely on others for information. Learn facts for reputable sites. DO not learn opininons.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 6080
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I think what OP is trying to say is the following:

in places like reddit, if you try to promote BSV or USDT for example, the mods will not allow you to do that and will ask you to fuck-off.

OP is implying that bitcointalk staff should do the same thing, he wants the few mods we have here to monitor every single topic/post that promotes shitcoins.

OP i hope this is what you are trying to say !
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If that's the case, it isn't about "freedom of speech" but because of the admin and moderator's decision regarding scams.
Here's the FAQ in the Unofficial Rules, Guidelines and FAQs:
19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).
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Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.

@Pingip Our "DT" (members in the Default Trust Lv2-1) are the ones who's doing those jobs, not the Mods.
The 2nd quote above states their reason for not doing so.

You can reach them by posting a scam accusation against BSV and others in this board: Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations
That's how it works here.
legendary
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I think what OP is trying to say is the following:

in places like reddit, if you try to promote BSV or USDT for example, the mods will not allow you to do that and will ask you to fuck-off.

OP is implying that bitcointalk staff should do the same thing, he wants the few mods we have here to monitor every single topic/post that promotes shitcoins.

OP i hope this is what you are trying to say !


and as answer to your question, and despite me being against most of those coins, on what bases did reddit staff label Tron or USDT as scam ? if Tron is scam then what is bitconnect? how are they similar ? just because you or anyone else for that matter thinks so, it does not mean other people shouldn't promote it, non of the coins you mentioned fall into the black category, they are grey and people are free to think whatever they want.

also due to the large number of users here, certain things like scams are impossible to moderate, we as community members try to educate newbies about the things we know, and their part is to do their own research and that's all about it.

what is great about this place is freedom of speech,I don't really use reddit but if it operates as you describe it, imagine what could happen if say someone like Craig Wright buys it oneday ? who would be able to say shit about BSV anymore?
hero member
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with answer like this we will never get anywhere and its NOT about emotions its about US do you get it...
with posts full of random statements like yours, a discussion will never take place
try to arrange your words/sentences properly to express yourself clearly
so others can understand what you are stating or asking in your posts
then people can relate, response and answer appropriately to the topic
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 3
Just know the mods here are far away from to be great or help,

in quality places only say Bitcoin sv and the mods say promote your scam elsewhere not here, and other also.

This place support libra Facebook coin while in quality place the mods Warren people from stable coins scam and in  Reddit you cannot post this shit as Reddit flooded by negative information about livra with the mods toegther.

Try to say in quality places

Supply dosent matter or don't affect  the price automatically the mods them self debunk and help.
Look on Reddit crypto, I am and few other  heavily active over there and other quality places, they expose a lot of shit , try to say Tron,xrp or supply dosent matter or talk about stable coins and see what the reaction from mods  .and others.

Look how mods over there and in other places exposed that Tron is more centralized then Facebook coin and tether is scam, and clear the bullshit,

Here something very fishy the place is full of shit and new people which come to learn here are LOST

The mods in Reddit and other quality places exposed that tether stable coin is scam,


This is what sad


This is the Bitcoin forum, created by Satoshi to promote solutions in Bitcoin's Code and explain how it would become a dominant digital currency.
No mod promotes libra or tether here. Moreover, most of older members see altcoins as useless except perhaps trading them on a few breakouts.



mate did you read everything because its not about mods post about the project...

will sum it for you

go to reddit' crypto look most of the conversions are very m=nice and they debunk over there bunch people with the mods together,

just say libra on facebook and you flooded with answers and it save bunch others, one mod over there is top when he said either you paid fucking shill to scam others and destroy this great change or you invested in this coin, after deep explanation the user said thanks you saved* my life.

you dont know how much reddit and other few quality places saved people from the trap of xrp with the huge supply, because xrp spread info with twitter and other forms it will hit nice* number and supply dosent matter ...and people fall this.

look on vitalik how he debunk scammers' about to much supply and code and after stuff, proud by him so much.
yes the money is fun but it more fun when we help and change and log in the night to POST QUALITY SHIT WHICH DRIVE EVERYBODY HERE - think like this
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 5
Just know the mods here are far away from to be great or help,

in quality places only say Bitcoin sv and the mods say promote your scam elsewhere not here, and other also.

This place support libra Facebook coin while in quality place the mods Warren people from stable coins scam and in  Reddit you cannot post this shit as Reddit flooded by negative information about livra with the mods toegther.

Try to say in quality places

Supply dosent matter or don't affect  the price automatically the mods them self debunk and help.
Look on Reddit crypto, I am and few other  heavily active over there and other quality places, they expose a lot of shit , try to say Tron,xrp or supply dosent matter or talk about stable coins and see what the reaction from mods  .and others.

Look how mods over there and in other places exposed that Tron is more centralized then Facebook coin and tether is scam, and clear the bullshit,

Here something very fishy the place is full of shit and new people which come to learn here are LOST

The mods in Reddit and other quality places exposed that tether stable coin is scam,


This is what sad


This is the Bitcoin forum, created by Satoshi to promote solutions in Bitcoin's Code and explain how it would become a dominant digital currency.
No mod promotes libra or tether here. Moreover, most of older members see altcoins as useless except perhaps trading them on a few breakouts.

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 3
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With due respect, we have a META Section that any issues regarding the forum and any other forms of moderations should be discussed,... This is only for BITCOIN DISCUSSION even if you are pertaining to say the word BITCOIN is used, the whole point of your thread lies on Moderation purposes which is not allowed in this section.

I would see this fit on Meta. This is turning into a shitloads of spam, As I have read the previous comments some where already OFF TOPIC from the OP.

Let's set aside the emotions and discuss any issues not dramatically but professionally so everyone would understand.

AGAIN, I SUGGEST TO MOVE THIS TOPIC TO META

On the BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF YOUR THREAD, you will see MOVE TOPIC.

Thank You.

with answer like this we will never get anywhere and its NOT about emotions its about US do you get it...

sorry to say to much bullshit in your post because its not about drama and not about emotions its about us and the change,  this is why half of the people fall to scams and other shit AND WHAT IMPORTANT TO YOU IS TO BE :  professionally so everyone would understand.

i know my self vitalik you know what he will answer you for this shit answer.



legendary
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With due respect, we have a META Section that any issues regarding the forum and any other forms of moderations should be discussed,... This is only for BITCOIN DISCUSSION even if you are pertaining to say the word BITCOIN is used, the whole point of your thread lies on Moderation purposes which is not allowed in this section.

I would see this fit on Meta. This is turning into a shitloads of spam, As I have read the previous comments some where already OFF TOPIC from the OP.

Let's set aside the emotions and discuss any issues not dramatically but professionally so everyone would understand.

AGAIN, I SUGGEST TO MOVE THIS TOPIC TO META

On the BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF YOUR THREAD, you will see MOVE TOPIC.

Thank You.
newbie
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Well technically you are supposed to vent your angst against the mods in the meta section, which is the place to discuss things about the forum itself. They can and probably will move/delete this whole thread on that technicality alone...

And yes this area is for general Bitcoin discussion, any other altcoins, including sv and libra must go to Altcoin discussion.

Also do not confuse user rank with moderation, user rank is just perks such as size of signature or avatar display, they don't get any moderating powers.

I know your feeling well, my perfectly helpful comment to you will be unceremoniously deleted so i hope you manage read it before that. I believe they even get paid for each "correction" so it works sometimes kinda like American police issuing traffic tickets.

mate pls read it and yes there are opinions but when we get to shitty posts/scams and other things here the top experts and mods and other jump inside and make things clear and help.

just know people here sold their accounts and who knows what this account spread.

one account here shill tron and say its great coin and the market cap is what important and in reality he is wrong and mislead.

every economis know the first things is how much the supply? then we will look on team and market cap and other shit.

on reddit and other quality place he was debunked so hard
legendary
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This is not just related to the Forum, so far it is an issue of BTC it self because you can not trust anyone here ! And trust must be achieved in order for BTC to move forward ! Nobody is going to come into a forum that is most likely a scam it self. And this is the most known Forum regarding Bitcoin, how do you think this influences the opinions of Investors?

I just can not believe i have to explain this in 2019

This depends on the investor. I wouldn't fall for the first two or three people's opinion. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. However there are guidelines to follow to keep things organized in the forum.

People in the Bitcoin discussion area can claim all other altcoins are scam. You can also write in the Altcoin discussion area that the only scam is Bitcoin. That is still your opinion, and yours alone, others are not in any obligation to follow you.

This section is not to discuss about any other Altcoin, its been like that for years, nothing special against tether.


Of course the forum made by the creator of Bitcoin is going to be the most known when talking about Bitcoin... Its a miracle this forum didn't disappear with him/her, and it would be a terrible historical lost if it did.

But let me tell you something, you are giving too much credit to it. Whatever is said or not in this forum, isn't going to affect Bitcoin. People's opinions are just that, opinions. The market might react sometimes to that, but i think Bitcoin own attributes is what is weighting more in an investor decision, rather than gossip.
newbie
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english its just language mate, it dosen't measure intelligence and its done for a reason.
i didn't say anything about English being a measure for your intelligence!!

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do you know how much people fell to very deep depression and other shit because of crap information on forum like this and other shit forums.

on reddit just say something wrong and ton people debunk you include the mods.
that is just your opinion. i actually find Reddit worse that this forum. specially certain subs that are dedicated to spreading misinformation.

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someone said bitcoin sv is great coins after fem min 2 mods said him promote your scam elsewhere not here'.

or shitty accounts' tired to promote libra coin and the mods ever there siad clearly to stay away even everybody know this.
it is not a moderators job to decide which coin is allowed to be discussed on this forum and which coin doesn't. if they do, it creates censorship and this forum doesn't have that. you can go talk about BSV as much as you like in the altcoin board and everyone there will tell you it is a shitcoin.

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few quality places the mods and great user exposed the scam about tether coin stable and they print their money as much they want.
there are at least 20 topics every month in this exact board that talk about Tether being scam! maybe you have not even read a single topic on bitcointalk before starting this topic?


you wrong mate the mods need to be active they part of us even they called mods the same with experts,

go to reddit crypto look most of the conversions are very m=nice and they debunk over there bunch people with the mods together,

just say libra and you flooded and it save bunch others, one mod over there is top when he said either you paid fucking shill to scam others and destroy this great change or you invested in this coin, after deep explanation the user said thanks you saved* my life.

you dont know how much reddit and other few quality places saved people from the trap of xrp with the huge supply, because xrp spread info with twitter and other froms it will hit nice number and supply dosent matter ...and people fall this.

look on vitalik how he debunk scammers about to much supply and code and after stuff, proud by him so much.
yes the money is fun but it more fun when we help and change and log in the night to POST QUALITY SHIT WHICH DRIVE EVERYBODY HERE - think like this
legendary
Activity: 2128
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There is trouble abrewing
english its just language mate, it dosen't measure intelligence and its done for a reason.
i didn't say anything about English being a measure for your intelligence!!

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do you know how much people fell to very deep depression and other shit because of crap information on forum like this and other shit forums.

on reddit just say something wrong and ton people debunk you include the mods.
that is just your opinion. i actually find Reddit worse that this forum. specially certain subs that are dedicated to spreading misinformation.

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someone said bitcoin sv is great coins after fem min 2 mods said him promote your scam elsewhere not here'.

or shitty accounts' tired to promote libra coin and the mods ever there siad clearly to stay away even everybody know this.
it is not a moderators job to decide which coin is allowed to be discussed on this forum and which coin doesn't. if they do, it creates censorship and this forum doesn't have that. you can go talk about BSV as much as you like in the altcoin board and everyone there will tell you it is a shitcoin.

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few quality places the mods and great user exposed the scam about tether coin stable and they print their money as much they want.
there are at least 20 topics every month in this exact board that talk about Tether being scam! maybe you have not even read a single topic on bitcointalk before starting this topic?
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1569
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
Well technically you are supposed to vent your angst against the mods in the meta section, which is the place to discuss things about the forum itself. They can and probably will move/delete this whole thread on that technicality alone...

And yes this area is for general Bitcoin discussion, any other altcoins, including sv and libra must go to Altcoin discussion.

Also do not confuse user rank with moderation, user rank is just perks such as size of signature or avatar display, they don't get any moderating powers.

I know your feeling well, my perfectly helpful comment to you will be unceremoniously deleted so i hope you manage read it before that. I believe they even get paid for each "correction" so it works sometimes kinda like American police issuing traffic tickets.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 3
well you should first try and improve your English skills and try to write a proper paragraph that is easy to understand and then invite people to some other place where you are supposedly "active"!
why would i or anybody else would want to see what you are saying elsewhere when it is impossible to understand what you are saying here?

english its just language mate, it dosen't measure intelligence and its done for a reason.

but it what worry you, so sad to see its your answer.

new people come to this industry' and go to forum like this and get LOST ...

do you know how much people fell to very deep depression and other shit because of crap information on forum like this and other shit forums.

on reddit just say something wrong and ton people debunk you include the mods.

someone said bitcoin sv is great coins after fem min 2 mods said him promote your scam elsewhere not here'.

or shitty accounts' tired to promote libra coin and the mods ever there siad clearly to stay away even everybody know this.

few quality places the mods and great user exposed the scam about tether coin stable and they print their money as much they want.

where the mods here, yet to ban great people they like.

this is how community grow and help new people fast get inside and save them from false paths on the way.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1293
There is trouble abrewing
well you should first try and improve your English skills and try to write a proper paragraph that is easy to understand and then invite people to some other place where you are supposedly "active"!
why would i or anybody else would want to see what you are saying elsewhere when it is impossible to understand what you are saying here?
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