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Quote from: examplens on January 25, 2024, 06:39:33 AM

The direction in which this thread went, shows that not everyone knows that it is not a good idea to use the same passwords on different forums. It is obvious that this mantra should be repeated everywhere and always, like the one "Not your keys, not your coins". No matter how many times it is repeated, there will be those who make such a mistake again.

Of course they know, they just don't care. And even if they use different passwords, chances are they're very alike anyway. Password1234 and Password4321 for instance. It would be more useful to promote a password manager, because most people have more accounts than they can remember.
And even if they use different passwords, chances are they forget which one belongs to which site. To enter, they "try" all passwords they know, thereby compromising all of them Cheesy

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 25, 2024, 02:54:34 AM

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Either way, a message is being displayed to all teleported members now on altt to have a different password.

Why? Are you assuming your users are that dumb? Everyone knows by now not to reuse passwords, and reading it again won't make the people who do it change their ways.

The direction in which this thread went, shows that not everyone knows that it is not a good idea to use the same passwords on different forums. It is obvious that this mantra should be repeated everywhere and always, like the one "Not your keys, not your coins". No matter how many times it is repeated, there will be those who make such a mistake again.

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Quote from: FatFork on January 25, 2024, 05:10:14 AM

This lets you benefit from the software options of Windows and the security of Linux in the same machine.

With this setup, malware installed on Windows can still access your Linux partition. I have no idea how likely this is (but I wouldn't want Windows to ever touch my partitions).

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on January 24, 2024, 06:03:26 AM

Thank you for the valuable advice.

After the harsh experience, I decided to use only open source software and install Linux on a bootable flash drive
I think it's the best way to avoid running into this problem again.

Perhaps a somewhat late decision, but it is better late than never.

To add to everything that LoyceV suggested, a dual boot setup seems like a solid idea here too. With that, you'd have Windows and Linux both installed on your computer, and when booting up, you'd just select which one you feel like going with that time. This lets you benefit from the software options of Windows and the security of Linux in the same machine. Dual boot gives flexibility if you ever find yourself needing something only one OS provides, and is generally a more optimized solution compared to VM, because it requires less resources.

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you have trust issues bro
you admit also distrusting ethereum, bnb, xrp ...

It's funny how you mention 3 centrally controlled shitcoins and then say I'm the one with issues. Is that the best argument you have?

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Quote from: Vod on January 24, 2024, 07:09:40 PM

Quote from: AlttAdmn on January 24, 2024, 07:05:35 PM

dude, the software is exactly the same as this forum, even newer version, the answer you got in the link, official statement, passwords are encrypted.
can the software be modified to store unencrypted passwords, probably possible, but then again everything is possible, statoshi being trump is also possible.

It's literally one line of code to store the original password before hashing it. For all we know, the bitcointalk hack was ~~just another way Theymos scammed~~; selling the unhashed passwords under a pseudonym. (Edit: probably not though, he scammed much more coin pretending to develop bitcoin)

You, on the other hand, copied this forum so I'd be more likely to believe you have unsalted passwords as well.

there are something called software, both these forums rely on open sourced software, this software used by thousands of forums, thus "copied" is a bit too much ...
anyway, altt forum exists since 2017, that's almost 7 years, with thousands of members. You guys just to argument for argument sake ...

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Of course it's suspicious! Just like altcoins, ICOs, NFTs, DeFi and Ordinals, your forum is also created to make money for the creator. And like many others, you need Bitcointalk to promote your little scheme.

you have trust issues bro
you admit also distrusting ethereum, bnb, xrp ...

from altt perspective, users are asked to use unique passwords, these passwords are encrypted , if you believe the admin or not, it does not matter.
- i am not gonna reply, enough time wasted on too far fetched arguments.

cheers and have a nice day

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Quote from: AlttAdmn on January 24, 2024, 07:05:35 PM

dude

Dude!

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the software is exactly the same as this forum, even newer version

None of that is relevant. When it comes to handling passwords, it comes to trusting the forum owner does what he says he does. Your "evidence" is a link to your own site, that doesn't prove anything. And it's impossible to prove.

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can the software be modified to store unencrypted passwords, probably possible, but then again everything is possible, statoshi being trump is also possible.

You're turning a serious thing into something ridiculous. Is that to distract the reader?

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I am not going to even entertain stupid insinuations.

I've seen it many times: wannabe scammers respond to serious concerns with name calling. Honest people would do all they can to convince readers with facts.

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just because you dislike altcoinstalks, it does not make it suspicious.

Of course it's suspicious! Just like altcoins, ICOs, NFTs, DeFi and Ordinals, your forum is also created to make money for the creator. And like many others, you need Bitcointalk to promote your little scheme.
Let's try the other way: the fact that I don't like your forum doesn't mean it should be trusted.

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Either way, a message is being displayed to all teleported members now on altt to have a different password.

Why? Are you assuming your users are that dumb? Everyone knows by now not to reuse passwords, and reading it again won't make the people who do it change their ways.

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And as i mentioned previously, altt admin does not need the money, altt admin distributes few hundred dollars monthly, every week there is at least a giveaway or raffle or revenue share ...

Revenue without needing the money. Right.

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Quote from: AlttAdmn on January 24, 2024, 07:05:35 PM

dude, the software is exactly the same as this forum, even newer version, the answer you got in the link, official statement, passwords are encrypted.
can the software be modified to store unencrypted passwords, probably possible, but then again everything is possible, statoshi being trump is also possible.

It's literally one line of code to store the original password before hashing it. For all we know, the bitcointalk hack was ~~just another way Theymos scammed~~; selling the unhashed passwords under a pseudonym. (Edit: probably not though, he scammed much more coin pretending to develop bitcoin)

You, on the other hand, copied this forum so I'd be more likely to believe you have unsalted passwords as well.

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 24, 2024, 08:58:42 AM

Quote from: AlttAdmn on January 24, 2024, 07:47:04 AM

Passwords are encrypted on Altt : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316088.0

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Passwords can not be decrypted they are hashed one way.

That doesn't mean anything. If the site owner wants, he can store all passwords and the users won't know about it.

dude, the software is exactly the same as this forum, even newer version, the answer you got in the link, official statement, passwords are encrypted.
can the software be modified to store unencrypted passwords, probably possible, but then again everything is possible, statoshi being trump is also possible.

I am not going to even entertain stupid insinuations. just because you dislike altcoinstalks, it does not make it suspicious.
Either way, a message is being displayed to all teleported members now on altt to have a different password.

And as i mentioned previously, altt admin does not need the money, altt admin distributes few hundred dollars monthly, every week there is at least a giveaway or raffle or revenue share ...

cheers, and have a nice day.

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 24, 2024, 03:58:40 AM

That's a weird excuse to install compromised software. I only use open source software and nobody can ban that as long as I have an internet connection.

If you are in an authoritative country, they absolutely can you. DNS and VPN restrictions.

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I was perplexed based on how the OP has presented the case of no possible email or password change and yet, we have claims of user’s account making loan requests but having no idea of these actions been taken by whom is thought to be the owner of the account.

One of the possible interpretations would have been that these were accounts that have changed hands but it’s hardly the case as, these are well known reputable users that have built a name behind there accounts still. Also, these are accounts that spans through 2017 - date and there haven’t been any serious attacks on the forum that I know of that could have result in account compromise. Hence, it’s easy to rule that off.

The possibility of a friend or siblings, I don’t know but, it’s hard to have this sort of fowl play.

Quote from: tranthidung on January 04, 2024, 02:47:30 PM

Teleporting an account from Bitcointalk to Altcoinstalks, and using a same password. It breaks an important principle, don't reuse password on different platforms.

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I recently teleported my account in altcoinstalks. I was required to put the same username there too. So I used the same password there as well.

No requirement to use the same password for the process!

I don't know it is a reason or just a fake one, used by the user to fool us but let's say, reuse password is bad practice.

This brings to light a security risk that might have been undermined on password and email usage on other platforms. It then means, you should identify risk when making associations on a testing platform and that which you have deemed important.

Like you’ve said @tranthidung, just maybe but,
This also brings to light a means to loan approval that could clear doubt which is, signing message from a current address and it becomes reassuring on whom.

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Quote from: AlttAdmn on January 24, 2024, 07:47:04 AM

Passwords are encrypted on Altt : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316088.0

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Passwords can not be decrypted they are hashed one way.

That doesn't mean anything. If the site owner wants, he can store all passwords and the users won't know about it.

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Passwords are encrypted on Altt : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316088.0

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Passwords can not be decrypted they are hashed one way.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on January 24, 2024, 02:37:49 AM

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Thank you for the valuable advice.

After the harsh experience, I decided to use only open source software and install Linux on a bootable flash drive
I think it's the best way to avoid running into this problem again.

Perhaps a somewhat late decision, but it is better late than never.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on January 23, 2024, 02:59:53 PM

What do I do?

I can think of many different things, but none of them includes installing untrusted (hacked) software on your main system. You could for instance:

use an open source video converter
use a VM
use another system
forget about converting videos
use an online video converter

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I am not happy with what I do, but when you live in a country like Syria where everything is banned, you have no choice but this one.

That's a weird excuse to install compromised software. I only use open source software and nobody can ban that as long as I have an internet connection.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on January 23, 2024, 02:59:53 PM

What do I do? I am not happy with what I do, but when you live in a country like Syria where everything is banned, you have no choice but this one.

I know this is very dangerous but I have no choice but to install the cracked software. I tried looking for a way to buy through Crypto but unfortunately my country is banned from all payment services.

You can install the second system on VirtualBox or another virtual machine and perform all operations with cracks there. If we talk about the fact that you needed to convert a video from one format to another, having done all this in Virtualbox, the output would be the desired file that can be transferred to the host system, of course, having first checked the file again, at least on VirusTotal.
Another option may be to install a second system on a hard drive. I would advise installing Linux to work with the forum and installing your favorite Windows as the second system.

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 23, 2024, 10:22:49 AM

Quote from: yhiaali3 on January 23, 2024, 05:04:03 AM

I guess that my problem started after downloading a crack for a video format converter program.

People still do that? Shocked

I barely dare install official wallet software on my main systems. Why don't you run those cracks in an isolated environment instead of giving them access to your passwords?

What do I do? I am not happy with what I do, but when you live in a country like Syria where everything is banned, you have no choice but this one.

I know this is very dangerous but I have no choice but to install the cracked software. I tried looking for a way to buy through Crypto but unfortunately my country is banned from all payment services.

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https://i.imgur.com/V7zECKQ.png

altt TL users are asked to have different pwd - just in case.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on January 23, 2024, 05:04:03 AM

I guess that my problem started after downloading a crack for a video format converter program.

People still do that? Shocked

I barely dare install official wallet software on my main systems. Why don't you run those cracks in an isolated environment instead of giving them access to your passwords?

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hello bitcoiners.
Altcoinstalks admin does not need your money to hack your accounts.
the software operating on Altt is similar to the one used on btt >>> in both cases the passwords are encrypted!

The crypto community is full of dishonest people and scammers. Everywhere ...

Altt admin does not need your money to scam you, and honestly have no idea what half the shit you have here on btt is (including loaning)!

here's a topic to read : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.0

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