What is good strategy or technique for Toss Coin? - page 6.

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A strategy where the chances of winning is exactly 50%?? Hmmmmmmm maybe trust your luck?? Cheesy

There is no perfect strategy in every gambling game and it include this toss coin. This is luck based game and for me, there is no technique or strategy that will work with this kind of game. I didn't try to bet on toss coin in televised but I did it on physical already and I didn't see any techniques on it but just rely on pure luck.

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Quote from: Reid on May 28, 2020, 08:13:42 AM

You just said it, Sir, it is a 50% bet which means there is no technique in it.
Maybe, if you are the one throwing the coin then, there could be some strategy you could make so that it will appear on your favor.

It is luck based. Just be careful with this kind of game.
Do they see how much the bet would be before making the flip?

There is an art in throwing or flipping a coin if a human is the one flipping or tossing a coin and he is one of the operators of the program then there's a probability of controlling the results, but if a machine is doing it then it's still 50% for both sides, you can do martingale here but since there are other bettors there's a chance that you can also lose in this strategy.

I used to bet in a toss coin and sometimes lose because the guy tossing the coin is very good at manipulating the results, I seldom see this game in online casino games but many bystanders in our place play it.

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Quote from: arwin100 on May 28, 2020, 05:20:27 PM

It's a game of chance so no strategy will work and ti make things more random toss the coin as higher as you can since it can make the game more exciting when the coin lands. But any other that maybe best not to think about working strategy and but maybe prayer works if you want to win in this game Grin

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prayer ? sounds funny but to be honest ive done that before when i play gambling but guess what happen ? it work to me often times before and those were the times that i also badly need money because i have loans to be payed for the incoming week but recently praying rarely works now for me . for random games like toss coin , i did use martingale . you can win on the long run because the other side of the coin will appear the longer you bet using martingale

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No technique involved. It's not like your chances get reduced when you win and your chances increase when you lose. The chances basically reset whenever the toss coin is started. A completely luck based game with 50% chance of winning. Martingale would work well, I mean, at this point I'm sure any strat would probably work just because of the fact that this game is purely luck-based, just that the losses and winnings would probably differ from one strategy to another.

Still, I believe the live feed to be untrue, or at least, some kind of modification has been made to make the odds a bit lower on one side or vice versa. Or just maybe, a trick to flipping the coin or something, Idk, having no house edge seems so unfavorable for them after all. Might just be me spouting bs about skills of coin tossing but who knows.

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The probability of a coin toss can be solved smply by following the formula No. Of favorable outcomes/No. Of possible outcomss. So for a single coin toss, head or tails will be the numerator and head & tails will be the denominator which is equal to one-half or 50%. The only time that the probability can decrease or increase is when there are new conditions added. Like more than one coin is tossed, coins are tossed n times, and variations of favorable outcomes. But in the end, the same formula applies

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 28, 2020, 05:33:11 PM

This is purely a luck-base game just like a lottery. A 50/50 percent winning or losing a game will use a martingale strategy? I'm afraid I could still be losing more.

No, I don't see any strategy to give it help and most particularly if you are playing against the house. I tried to think about how this coin created for the said purpose ( tossing coin for gambling). Maybe I have to bring my own and make it it used when I play for maybe I have the big chance to win.

Luck-based on the sense but wont really be comparable to lottery if we do talk about winning rate. Martingale on a 50% chance isnt really a bad idea at all.

Yeah, losing more is always there but same as others said above that its unlikely to have a very long loss since there are only 2 outcomes neither heads or tails.

You arent playing with house since basing on the image there are people who do bet on each side.

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This is purely a luck-base game just like a lottery. A 50/50 percent winning or losing a game will use a martingale strategy? I'm afraid I could still be losing more.

No, I don't see any strategy to give it help and most particularly if you are playing against the house. I tried to think about how this coin created for the said purpose ( tossing coin for gambling). Maybe I have to bring my own and make it it used when I play for maybe I have the big chance to win.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2020, 08:01:07 AM

I can say this game is purely 50% probability, HEAD or TAIL only.

You got 50/50 chance, this game requires luck to win, so you just need luck to win.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2020, 08:01:07 AM

Now,
What do you think, everyone? Good strategy or technique to use here, like the martingale or reverse martingale or double down?
Feel free to share your ideas and advice.

A game that requires luck, no strategy would work in the long run, that has been the reality.
My only concern is the game you have been playing, it's televised live but how can we verify it's transparent and no cheat on that in favor of the operator?

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It's a game of chance so no strategy will work and ti make things more random toss the coin as higher as you can since it can make the game more exciting when the coin lands. But any other that maybe best not to think about working strategy and but maybe prayer works if you want to win in this game Grin

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People really go to such great lengths just to gamble, huh.

Given that the game is not really physical and is just streamed through a monitor, there are a lot of tweaks to the coin and to the platform itself that could affect the coin. First, magnets. Next, the inclination of the platform and third, the way that the coin is tossed. Nevertheless, this is still a 50/50 game though and not much strategy is needed to win the bet. Kind of like those carnival games that they hold every festival which does not really have any known strategies that work, just bet and hope for the best.

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Quote from: harizen on May 28, 2020, 04:06:55 PM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2020, 08:01:07 AM

What do you think, everyone? Good strategy or technique to use here, like the martingale or reverse martingale or double down?
Feel free to share your ideas and advice.

To win, basically no strategy.
To bet, and since you are relying on your luck, then do martingale "with caution".

If you are familiar with "perya", a martingale is working most of the time on one of their games, the colored game. In toss coin, you have 2 choices and it's difficult to imagine you will lose 10x consecutively in the same pick at a no house edge system, "only if the live video there is legit".

Anyways, what is the name of the game? I want to explore it more to give much sense of feedback. Gambling operators that deal with that kind of game that running without any system (or basically no house edge), already know that some gamblers might take advantage of the martingale betting so I think there's an information that I don't know yet.

For sure they are already aware with that and the only way they can monetize such even is to get a % on each winning amount.

because if we do talk about on the odds then its clear that this one do only have 50% of winning and i agree that its impossible to have losing streak of 10x

thats why it would really be good if you can really verify out if the video is on live stream and doesnt make any shady acts.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2020, 08:01:07 AM

What do you think, everyone? Good strategy or technique to use here, like the martingale or reverse martingale or double down?
Feel free to share your ideas and advice.

To win, basically no strategy.
To bet, and since you are relying on your luck, then do martingale "with caution".

If you are familiar with "perya", a martingale is working most of the time on one of their games, the colored game. In toss coin, you have 2 choices and it's difficult to imagine you will lose 10x consecutively in the same pick at a no house edge system, "only if the live video there is legit".

Anyways, what is the name of the game? I want to explore it more to give much sense of feedback. Gambling operators that deal with that kind of game that running without any system (or basically no house edge), already know that some gamblers might take advantage of the martingale betting so I think there's an information that I don't know yet.

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Let's just say that the game was not rigged at all and will be based on the rules and winning chance.

If I am in the position of betting in that game, I would probably do martingale. It's a common strategy but it's better than just relying on the 50/50 chance of winning, At least you have a plan of getting back the losses you did. Mostly it would just luck that will make you win since it's a 50/50 game but the martingale strategy is applicable as a recovery method to your losses.

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Why bother asking if there any strategies for a game that is 100% a 50/50 split?

By definition, a game that is unequivocally balanced cannot be gamed in any way. The only thing you can do is look into the actual coin they use and see if one side is slightly heavier than the other.

That said, I doubt it would help anyway since it's unlikely to neutralize the house edge or rake if there is one.

Don't waste your time with strategies, just accept the odds as they are and take your chances. The alternative is to waste your time with baseless strategies.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2020, 08:01:07 AM

Now,
What do you think, everyone? Good strategy or technique to use here, like the martingale or reverse martingale or double down?
Feel free to share your ideas and advice.

If the said Toss coin organizer is fair (doesnt have any modification on the coin itself or whatsoever or any other means of cheating ) then i would say that
martingale would really be a good strategy to use on since its impossible on hitting up 4-5x straight losing bet head or tails but we do know that everything could
happen so you should prepare up your bankroll in case you do make use of martingale but i would be confidently using this into this game rather than into
automation on casual dice that we are playing online.

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Unfortunately in a fair coin toss game there is no trend. Even after seeing the coin land on heads for 20x times in a row, the chance are still 50/50 for the next toss. That holds only true of course if it is a fair coin. But for use humans its just in our nature to look for patterns. We really like trends and assume continuity when there is none.

So this leaves us with the other input parameter in the game, the amount you bet. There are strategies to manage your bankroll and how much you should bet. But using martingale or double down strategy won't make you consistently money in the long run. Of course there are outliers and people make money, but on a large enough sample size. It's not profitable. First reason is that the odds you get online are not exactly 50/50, or if they actually are 50/50, the casino will charge you in another form. And secondly, you need an infinte large bankroll to begin with to run these strategies, but then again casinos will limit the maximum amount you can bet.

Dice or toss games are fun, but they are GAMES. Don't rely on them to make money, just treat them as any other game. And if you wan't to make money with them, invest in an casino.

Sometimes you lose, and sometimes the casino wins Grin

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The output is like yes or no.

I can't think of any strategy but to bet with one single choice. Like for consecutive bets, I'll only choose heads until it wins.

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Quote from: bitbollo on May 28, 2020, 08:05:49 AM

Ok there is a monitor but can you trust/be 101% sure the coin has not been modified before or there isn't a magnetic base that can be activated by the house? There is a notary or something like that?

This is a 50% side bet.
The result of each bet it's totally independent by the bet made before. It's something risk choose a "strategy" according to bets statistics....

I think one can choose and explore strategies if that's what makes the experience more engaging, and gambling is treated like a way to spend free time and get entertained. If it's a serious question by a person whose goal is to earn money by gambling, then I'd agree with you that playing with a strategy might be even riskier than without it, as the strategy might make one more inclined to believe the win is nearby.

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Quote from: Sadlife on May 28, 2020, 08:29:10 AM

In games like that there are no strategy its only based in luck and probability.

Wrong. Luck is a major factor, but strategies do help in games like these where there is no house edge in the short term and long term(If there is actually no house edge).

I successfully used several strategies like Martingale, DeAlembert, Oscar's Grind etc successfully in the short term many times.

Or perhaps it was just luck you had when implementing these strategies? Had there been a strategy allowing to consistently win, casinos would soon get out of business.

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Quote from: Sadlife on May 28, 2020, 08:29:10 AM

In games like that there are no strategy its only based in luck and probability.

Wrong. Luck is a major factor, but strategies do help in games like these where there is no house edge in the short term and long term(If there is actually no house edge).

I successfully used several strategies like Martingale, DeAlembert, Oscar's Grind etc successfully in the short term many times.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2020, 08:30:31 AM

Probability is 50%. I also have a doubt where they are getting profits here, but I think they have some fees here for every bet player made.
And the odds are based on the total amount of bets per toss.

Is this mutual betting with commission taken from the winning bets then? Reminds me of Onehash etc.

Quote from: fortunecrypto on May 28, 2020, 10:13:42 AM

It's 50/50 but you have a good chance if you tried to use martingale because there is no house edge

This doesn't make any sense. Without an edge, the site would drown quickly. They must have an edge in some form or another.

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It's 50/50 but you have a good chance if you tried to use martingale because there is no house edge, because it's physically tossing the coin no automated hit, we don't have something like this that is done on TV but flipping coins is very much popular in every town here, it's illegal here because because people play it in the street.

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