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Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...
Media shapes us how they want, so doing these acts seem to be the correct thing for humanity. There are many factors that influence us to think and act like goverments would like to.
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Just follow the rules
If you have fear in God, you will not think of killing other people.

Who told you this? I can give you millions of examples, where religious people have killed others for insane and silly reasons. Just look at those ISIS guys in Syria and Iraq. They claim that they follow the purest form of Islam. Till now, they have killed more than 100,000 people, on top of the tens of thousands they have kidnapped and enslaved.


It's funny how religions taught us to do good deeds and avoid evil things but throughout the history it's what cause too many horrifying acts. They are all blinded by their beliefs that they make their own interpretation on each of their holy book.
I am also sadden that religion has been one of the reasons why the people on this earth are being separated. But, if we have different beliefs and still want to have peace, we must respect each other's beliefs and such. If you want to be respected, then give respect. It's just a matter of give and take. And if we have a common goal which is world peace, I think we can achieve it just by respecting each other and being not greedy or do not envy what others have, just be contented on what you have.
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If you have fear in God, you will not think of killing other people.

Who told you this? I can give you millions of examples, where religious people have killed others for insane and silly reasons. Just look at those ISIS guys in Syria and Iraq. They claim that they follow the purest form of Islam. Till now, they have killed more than 100,000 people, on top of the tens of thousands they have kidnapped and enslaved.


It's funny how religions taught us to do good deeds and avoid evil things but throughout the history it's what cause too many horrifying acts. They are all blinded by their beliefs that they make their own interpretation on each of their holy book.
legendary
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People reset every 50 to 100 years on average so with each resetting lessons are forgotten
Mortality is a weakness that said we do have a lot stronger connection to history than we used to now.
So progressing in a relative sense of the term

this is one of the few things Steve Bannon and I agree on Cheesy you have the truth of it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

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The Strauss–Howe generational theory, created by authors William Strauss and Neil Howe, describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history. Strauss and Howe laid the groundwork for their theory in their 1991 book Generations, which discusses the history of the United States as a series of generational biographies going back to 1584.[1] In their 1997 book The Fourth Turning, the authors expanded the theory to focus on a fourfold cycle of generational types and recurring mood eras in American history.[2] They have since expanded on the concept in a variety of publications.

The theory was developed to describe the history of the United States, including the 13 colonies and their British antecedents, and this is where the most detailed research has been done.[original research?] However, the authors have also examined generational trends elsewhere in the world and described similar cycles in several developed countries.[3]

Eric Hoover (2009) has called the authors pioneers in a burgeoning industry of consultants, speakers and researchers focused on generations.[4] Academic response to the theory has been mixed—some applauding Strauss and Howe for their "bold and imaginative thesis", and others criticizing the theory.[5][6] Criticism has focused on the lack of rigorous empirical evidence for their claims,[7] and a perception that aspects of the argument gloss over real differences within the population.[6]

The authors describe each turning as lasting about 20–22 years. Four turnings make up a full cycle of about 80 to 90 years,[44] which the authors term a saeculum, after the Latin word meaning both "a long human life" and "a natural century".[45]

Generational change drives the cycle of turnings and determines its periodicity. As each generation ages into the next life phase (and a new social role) society’s mood and behavior fundamentally changes, giving rise to a new turning. Therefore, a symbiotic relationship exists between historical events and generational personas. Historical events shape generations in childhood and young adulthood; then, as parents and leaders in midlife and old age, generations in turn shape history.[46]

Each of the four turnings has a distinct mood that recurs every saeculum. Strauss and Howe describe these turnings as the "seasons of history". At one extreme is the Awakening, which is analogous to summer, and at the other extreme is the Crisis, which is analogous to winter. The turnings in between are transitional seasons, similar to autumn and spring.[47] Strauss and Howe have discussed 26 theorized turnings over 7 saecula in Anglo-American history, from the year 1435 through today.

At the heart of Strauss & Howe's ideas is a basic alternation between two different types of eras, Crises and Awakenings. Both of these are defining eras in which people observe that historic events are radically altering their social environment.[48] Crises are periods marked by major secular upheaval, when society focuses on reorganizing the outer world of institutions and public behavior (they say the last American Crisis was the period spanning the Great Depression and World War II). Awakenings are periods marked by cultural or religious renewal, when society focuses on changing the inner world of values and private behavior (the last American Awakening was the "Consciousness Revolution" of the 1960s and 1970s).[49]

During Crises, great peril provokes a societal consensus, an ethic of personal sacrifice, and strong institutional order. During Awakenings, an ethic of individualism emerges, and the institutional order is attacked by new social ideals and spiritual agendas.[50] According to the authors, about every eighty to ninety years—the length of a long human life—a national Crisis occurs in American society. Roughly halfway to the next Crisis, a cultural Awakening occurs (historically, these have often been called Great Awakenings).[49]

according to this, we are in the Nomad archetype:

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Nomad generations enter childhood during an Awakening, a time of social ideals and spiritual agendas, when young adults are passionately attacking the established institutional order. Nomads grow up as under-protected children during this Awakening, come of age as alienated, post-Awakening adults, become pragmatic midlife leaders during a Crisis, and age into resilient post-Crisis elders.[57]

if this isnt the definition of the current state of affairs, Ill eat my hat. This is the most divided the nation has been since the 60's, for many of the same reasons. we will emerge from this a changed people; what Im saying is something is going to give if we keep going on like this. I know we all want to win, but if we dont make some concessions to each other and soon, there wont be too much left to fight for.

I will plainly say I strongly suspect we will see civil rioting on a much larger scale than we have the past few decades, within the next 5 years or so. It will come to a head. Only if we go to war with a monolithic big bad (Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea) will we be distracted enough to avoid this.

I dont know which is the lesser of the two evils.

and I mentioned Bannon earlier because he is a proponent of this theory as well:

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Generation Zero is a 2010 American documentary film written and directed by Steve Bannon, and produced by David N. Bossie for Citizens United Productions.[1][2] The documentary features historian David Kaiser as well as author and amateur historian Neil Howe. In the film, Bannon examines the financial crisis of 2007–2008 in the context of a generational theory by authors William Strauss and Neil Howe.[3][4][5][6]

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The film describes the 1960s as a time in which young adults turned away from their parents' values, saying they turned their backs on history. The film refers to “seasons of history” and concludes that the damage which was initiated in the 1960s, when young baby boomers turned away from their parents' values, will be undone via war or other great crisis. The period of crisis is referred to as a "turning". In Strauss and Howe's theory, the period of crisis or war is referred to as the “fourth turning”. The film concludes with the line "history is seasonal and winter is coming".[4][1][3][9]

Historian David Kaiser, who was consulted for the film said that it focused on a key aspect of Strauss and Howe's theory: "the idea that every 80 years American history has been marked by a crisis, or 'fourth turning', that destroyed an old order and created a new one”. Bannon, Kaiser states, was "very familiar with Strauss and Howe’s theory of crisis, and has been thinking about how to use it to achieve particular goals for quite a while.”

Bannon gets a cookie. He hit a "Winter is Coming" before it was a thing. And boy was he right Grin
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Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...

As much as there are a lot of negativity going on in this world right now, there are still a lot of good in this world. And i think we should focus more on thay instead of the negativity because it needs more of our attention. Look around you, help someone in need, show respext to people and elders. Share. If we can't find humanity in others, let others find it in us.
legendary
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If you have fear in God, you will not think of killing other people.

Who told you this? I can give you millions of examples, where religious people have killed others for insane and silly reasons. Just look at those ISIS guys in Syria and Iraq. They claim that they follow the purest form of Islam. Till now, they have killed more than 100,000 people, on top of the tens of thousands they have kidnapped and enslaved.
sr. member
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If you have fear in God, you will not think of killing other people. The world is getting worse and even the people are getting worst too. It is a sad fact but we must face the reality. If we want change, it must start with ourself. Not with other but you yourself has to change.
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Because humanity is the name of an animal that cannot find joy in life without sacrifie. The pretty lie that is equality is nonsense spouted by weaklings who cannot look upon the darkness. Nothing but a lie to cover up life's ugliness, the more you live in this world the more you realize that wars will always happen. A world where no one is hurt is impossible to achive as long as humanity exist so will violence we will kill, steal or annihilate each other just for profit. One of the main instinct of humanity is greed that doesn't get contented even though they have everything in life and still wants more.
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Well, I guess it's true that humans are social being but on the contrary we are also dominant and territorial in nature. We always like to have anything that we can. It's in our nature to be greedy and possessive. I think it's impossible to stop war and to learn from it.
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The war has always been due to the great greed of humanity and this will continue until people eradicate their greed and learn to respect each other. It is necessary to spend children on the world, and not on war.
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Human nature is not to fear, it is to love.  An overwhelming majority of humans tend to bond in unity with others

As mentioned above, that's exactly why tyrants are able to gain power and carry out wars.
Maybe this would change if we had advance technology, then the objective would be to conquer other systems and humanity could be united for that purpose. I know it sounds crazy, but it would be one way to stop hurting each other.
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Now we really don't care about others and bad news are part of our diary lifes. People without feelings...
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It's man's nature to be violent. Some people are more prone to this violence and craves it. Some are moved by greed, powerful people who earn a lot through war. I don't think it can be removed. There will always be those people wanting these negative things. Though along with these, humans are also well capable of showingblive and compassion. In times of war, we see horror stories of blood and cruelty but we also see stories of courage and human compassion.
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Oh man, people around the world will never stop hating and killing. Nothing we can do about that, saddly.
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Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...
The world would have been a safer place had the USA been withdrawn like they used to be before the great wars, during that time they were just concerned with their own affairs and though the put an end to the wars, their activities post the world wars has brought the world into more dangers, Look at the needless war against communism, who brough about the Cold War and eventually the Vietnam War.
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Yes, actually as long as there are greediness in one's heart there would be war.  Reasons of war were the extension of territories of one's strong country.  Some wants invasion if that country is rich thus, they make war to fully occupy that place and have the resources they need.  Just like what is happening right now  with the countries in the middle east.  They make false news for the US to have the right to make war with it.  Thus, the war on that country were non stop up to now.
legendary
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War is part of the history of all societies in its absence peace can ensue, but when rations are short or a resource becomes scarce conflict occurs. The idea to resolve that through communism removed that incentive to grow and improve, capitalism focuses the greed so we ended up with socialism and basic minimum income to maintain the peace, we are at least coming up with more innovate ways, so while humanity is hopeless at times another generation tries different things and that is why we put hope in our successors.
sr. member
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We do not know what will happen to the world in the future.
We do not know what the reason your country is fighting.
War is not supposed to happen, because war is very bad for a country. War can make the country crumble.
legendary
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Op, it is not something new that people are terrible and do unspeakable things to the other people all the time.
You seriously think that WW1 and 2 were scary or showed us that humanity is degenerating? Not at all.
It is just a proof that we never evolved and in times of peril we will kill, and devolve to being simple animals.
It is called a 'human nature' whether we like it or not this is what humans are.
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War is inevitable. It cannot be avoided. That is why we should be prepared when the time comes. We should always be alert if that things happen.
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