Topic: What is missing in the Bitcoin EcoSystem? - page 2. (Read 1951 times)

in response to point 4. they need to CODE solutions. and not think about economics/price wars..
they should only think about expanding the utility via code.. and let the world decide the economics.
my main gripe is their lack of CODE to set priority/recognise priority. but put in mechanisms that push the fee forward even if there was low demand.

devs need to stop pushing an agenda and instead just stick to utility and expansion.

they really should have done some proper 'priority' coding. and not just the fee war thing they done, especially now all wallets are literally sheep following the price upwards and mining pools have to literally break away from the 'average' rule to allow in cheaper tx's just to break the constant rise.

sheep following and concentrating only on price rather than coded security is the downfall of any 'decentralised/diverse coding project'

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Here is what I see missing in the Bitcoin Ecosystem that I would like to see made better:

1)  More merchants accepting BTC as payment.

2)  More users like us...


To a lesser degree:

3)  Yes, Bitcoin is pretty hard to use for the general public, but I have seen all sorts of users at Bitcoin ATMs...

4)  I *believe* that the Core Developers ought to "do it right" when it comes to resolving technical issues, IMO make it easier to make important evolutional changes without programming mayhem....

I think everyone underestimate how far bitcoin has come. You can buy it in thousands upon thousand of places all over the world. And it is not slowing down.  Its not where evreybody wants it but it is rocking.

bitbay / open bazaar
a better google adsense alternative

but without having to rely on LN hubs otherwise its no better then paypal/google wallet
multisig yes. but current LN concepts. no

There is no perfect in anything on the virtual world at first but when time goes by, feedback from the users itself will contribute in perfecting this Bitcoin's EcoSystem that you said, that's why bitcointalk is here to hear the voice of the people in what is the missing link in ways to improve Bitcoin.

A platform with lots of sellers and buyers like eBay could help, but bitcoin has Openbazaar, it isn't as big as eBay. But we need to think that eBay started with few sellers and few buyers too.

I am thinking along the lines of how the PayPal value transfer service became widely adopted because of the eBay platform.
And Steem has been distributed via the Steemit platform.

I get that only people already interested in Bitcoin are going to go onto a Bitcoin forum, but some other platform where the USP is more than just 'we use bitcoins' and other ways of interacting with other users is facilitated - an exchange Hub of some variety.

social platforms (facepalm)
let me guess a FB group. where people need to search 'bitcoin' to find it

usually just like this forum. its where it ends up being a group if insiders talking to each other and getting outsiders to come inward.
this is usually done by noobs hearing about bitcoin and drawn into a 'social platform'. rather then the social platform reaching out.

where everyone just advertises within the group. which becomes a culdron of advertising to people who already heard about bitcoin.

we need to stop thinking about bringing people into groups but expanding bitcoin away from groups and become independent and expanding.

There does seem to be very little promotion of Bitcoin and absolutely no mainstream advertisement for its use.

I would like to contribute to the ecosystem in someway - My feelings are that Bitcoin needs more facilitators, more social network type platforms that link people together with extra possibilities to use our digital tokens. The idea with Bitcoin is that each individual can interact with another, with a third party - but some platform to help facilitate this 'meeting of individuals'.

- A working hypothesis and maybe there are platforms on the way?

if you want some idea's to expand bitcoin

Drop-shipping.
   expand retail<->bitcoin
manufacturing.
   hardware wallets with NFC that take in a tx via NFC and send out via NFC a signed tx in seconds
   bitcoin novelty gifts
   list goes on
local exchanges
meetups/conferences
jobs
   real jobs paid in bitcoin

my thoughts are that bitcoin is too much on this forum..
its turned into a circle jerk affair. to learn bitcoin you go to this forum, to start earning bitcoin you go to this forum, yes there are other places like reddit and other services. but this forum seems to have turned too inward and only stirring its own pot.

imagine this forum like an island. instead of getting the inhabitants to go out and explore the world, they are directing new people to the island and hope they stay in the island and trade on the island.

not much has been done since id say 2015 to get people to do some real world stuff.. all the stuff i have seen in the real world of 2016 looks like the same idea's of 2012-2014. when i was highly involved to getting the message out.

i have shot down many scammers and tried to look at business idea's people come up with. but lately all i see is demotivated culdron stiring  attempts of peoples gread of just trying to make money from eachother inside these forums. instead of expanding and exciting the real world.

it just seems like things have stagnated and just turned away from a 'revolutionary currency' and just into a who's got the biggest **** 'club'

new idea's only seem to end up being scams and anything to grow utility get pushed aside unless a banker paid dev is at the lead of designing it.

yes we need more concepts and utilities and less sheep following one direction that ends up just circling itself

franky1

Am I right in thinking that you're suggesting that Bitcoin is TOO much 'on the internet', and the thing missing is the tangible, human aspect to it... a face? Isn't there enough information online to get people started with using Bitcoin?

Some of the 'real world' suggestions you made are projects that either have been made or are in the process of developing/ like the easy to use wallets ie. AitBitz and others. There's BitPay and ShapeShift for accepting payments etc.

I guess my thoughts are along the lines of... is there something else? Maybe along the lines of Steem? Steemit is a bit of a microtopia but its success seems to be more based on its merit rather than support for the ideology behind it/ or wide spread adoption of its token(s).

many noobs think the only way to get bitcoin is to:
* run a ponzi and scam people
* raid faucets
* signature campaigns

many noobs do not see the bitcoin economy in the real world outside of this forum.
this forum has become its own culdron of inner sanctuary. where people are just stirring things within the forum. trading, advertising, speculating, etc.

we need to expand peoples minds outside of this forum. to do some real world stuff.
EG
* real jobs paid in bitcoin.
* local conferences and meetups
* merchant adoption
* user friendly wallets (NFC/username) instead of public key/QR code

bitcoin can expand in many ways but it is starting to turn into segmented boysclubs like some ganglands where there are borders and fights if one side steps into another sides line.

each town/city should have its own 'information centre' for meetups/exchanges conferences and just general info.
each town/city should have some advocates that help raise awareness and help businesses start up by finding the right people for the right roles to help the economy grow.

yayayo, I do agree with your view of Bitcoin being the 'first killer app' and didn't mean to emphasis the word 'Blockchain' in my original post. Bitcoin has the network, the time & money invested - it's more than just a nifty piece of software.

RodeX, as you pointed out, limited access is crippling adoption. The vision is that bitcoins are available to all, being highly transferable for any other good, commodity or currency worldwide - but that really isn't the case. I think this in itself is severely retarding the network effect which Bitcoin relies on.

so.. you think adoption is easy to achieve?
bitcoin is growing, but that will not happen from day to night.

I think what would've made Bitcoin better would have been popularity. Although we as a community are growing faster and faster with every day passing by, we are less popular than we should have been in 8 years since the release. The $1,2k price should have also helped a lot, especially because it's a HUGE price for a virtual currency and people really paid for it.

Bitcoin ATMs.

Getting BTC should be as easy as going to the bank or ATM. Unfortunately here in the U.S. the big banks have made it almost impossible to become a legal "money transmitter".  This is being worked on, but can't come fast enough for me.    If bitcoin could be bought at an ATM then I think POS adoption would explode.

The blockchain is just a tool to make Bitcoin possible as a decentralized currency. Unlike OP portrays it, the true killer application of the blockchain is Bitcoin, not any secondary services that might use the blockchain as well. These are perfectly expendable. in fact, a blockchain is a fairly inefficient structure for many of the services some startups are trying to push towards it.

What's missing in the bitcoin ecosystem are companies from the primary economic sector that offer their products for Bitcoin and B2B Bitcoin trade. We have a lot of service offerings for Bitcoin, but what we are largely missing are essential goods like food products. For Bitcoin to be successful as a currency independent from fiat trash money, we need a closed loop economy, where people can buy all their daily necessities using Bitcoin only. That would make Bitcoin remittances a much larger success as well, because they will become incredibly cheap as recipients don't need to convert their coins to fiat.

ya.ya.yo!

Simplicity. If we want to target both the young and the old people then simplicity should be the way to go. I and almost everyone of the forums understand how bitcoin works but no one can denies the fact that when someone new to the community would like to know more about bitcoin or understand how bitcoin works , he will definitely find it hard at the beginning . (I'm speaking about people with no programming or cryptography knowledge at all). I believe that the majority of people give up while trying to understand what bitcoin is really about and how It actually works.

I know that bitcoin is based on algorithms and stuff but I guess while explaining to someone else , we could explain it better (in a simpler way then we are doing it now) .

The media is another problem , where all they do is targeting bitcoin on how It's being used on drug dealing and funding terrorism . If you think that doesn't affect then you are wrong. The sooner they stop with their nonsense , the better it is.

I think that was is missing is the realisation that the blockchain is just a file system. The distibuted ledger and other bits are specified in the Core software, and not the blockchain structure. I've seen more rubbish posted around the net about "The Blockchain" than almost anything else.

It would be good if the public could be made aware of the fact that Bitcoin really is different.