Topic: What is Moneypot trying to hide from their investors? - page 2. (Read 1983 times)

So you don't agree that a rise in value makes it harder to pay?
Let me give you a quick example
You have to pay back 50$
suddenly you have to pay back 100$
Is this harder than 50$? Yes or no
If you answered no then I don't know what you're even doing on here



Now that's actually a valid point you make here. But the idea is that moneypot can only buy them for what they need to repay, and that users can sell them to other users who are willing to wait longer. The MP buying for cheaper could be fixed by MP doing monthly payments of a fixed amount instead!

I dont agree that it makes repayment a bit harder. it is BTC and it could go to 1 USD or 10k USD or more. it is BTC what they have to pay cause we lost BTC.
they should have paid long ago in any case and what if tomorrow BTC will be 5k USD or more?


good that you added this time my guess why question's answer that only MP can profit with the tokens cause they can buy it back for less and that is not fair IMO or they will pay more in form of tokens. why should investors get an haircut? sorry the Investors got already their haircut so there is no reason for another haircut!


as I said before in general it was a good idea but it should be a bit more thought through to please also the Investors and not only MP just to be fair for the Investors

BTW I believe you that you were not invested because you warned many times that the Investments/Bank Roll will go sour according to MP BR handling changes

It's worth understanding that since MP made their promise bitcoin price has gone up 2.5x in value, which understandably makes repayment a bit harder or at least slower.

A tradable token in the style of bitfinnex would absolutely help creditors, as it would allow them get paid immediately (if they wanted to take a haircut). Or they would be free to hold the token until they're repaid. But in the end they should all end up redeemed for their face value, so it's not a trick or anything like that.

(Anyway, it was just idea. I did not hold a balance at the time, so I absolutely should have not have a say in the matter)

I only see you posting while I come to the gambling section and see you trying to defame the Moneypot owners and their sites which they govern.

I do not want to spend the time nor the effort to read through all your posts because they look like just utter crap to me.

No offense mate but it is very true.

your posting shows that you dont know what we are talking about and this tells me that you only want and need to show your sig to get a few more satoshis

Laugh it up dickface. 

Of course you don't care about my investment or anyone else.  You only care about yourself.  You lost and you can't handle it.  You're the joke.

Humor me.  Who am I all-knowing guy.

You're a good example of why I don't have a account here.  This place is fucking garbage and full of shit for brains people like you.

I think moneypot has been a joke right now but they will be able to change my mind if they make things right. 

I will forever think you're a piece of shit who can't tell left from right.

Jackpotracer
I see you complaining about moneypot all day long. It is like your full time job to make them pay or fess up for something they did to you in the past.
Or it is a a mission your on to make them fold up and go away or something.
Did they kick you out of their team or something to this similar assumption?

what?


Explain to me how it's not beneficial for both? It might not be as good as being paid out right away but it's something.
Please explain how something < nothing




Those tradable tokens should equal an amount in BTC to be paid out.


Maybe because it was not Jackpotracer, the troll who has a vendetta against moneypot but someone who might just be a regular person with an opinion based off of other things other than just the desire to slander MP?



Yay, insults. I wouldn't have recognised you without them!

LEL thx for the nice laugh and I almost fell from the chair laughing and I am still laughing

why did you hide with a new nick? no balls or ovaries? according to your language I know who you are LEL

why the long anti Jackpotracer anthem? because you needed to let out the truth and what makes you angry about MP?

haha and I fully agree with you saying

To Moneypot:  Your only site is better bets and it seems fucking broken.  Who fucking cares about NEXT. Fix your fucking site and keep your promises and THEN maybe people will start playing with you again and this fucking idiot can go back into whatever hole he crawled out of.

yea who cares about NXT? or R2B2? where is the RBIES implementation?

MP only site is not BetterBets because Bit-Exo is much better! that means they have 2 good apps but is this enough?

I dont care about your investment if you want to donate it to MP feel free to do so. MP knows exactly what I am talking about when saying they treated Investors money wrong and are fully responsible

now I am waiting for your qualified answer LEL

same for you little boy your brown nose is in danger that it will be that deep you will not get it out!

tradable tokens are only good for MP owners! but why would you agree with me LEL

MP should pay the investors cause we Investors lost BTC and not tradable tokens

why dont you guys attack this poster LEL
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19861856

you might want to come off that high horse. the only reason you even offered that was to calm down investors after it was revealed that you were negligent with server access with an unstable ex-developer still having server seed access. in the following six months not only have you not compensated investors as promised, and not even released amounts to your investors. most likely because your insolvent if you take into account your debt to investors

maybe because it was not Jackpotracer who posted it? but this guy is not one of the brown nosed idiots he is just a man/girl with common sense and a fair thinking brain. All normal people should think the same and it doesnt matter who said it, easy as that

now go back to your children channel = discord

I usually just lurk but you are really PISSING me off and you might even ruin it for me and others.

I invested in moneypot before and am still owed too but unlike you I knew and accepted the risks like a FUCKING MAN.

It was even written that I wasn't guaranteed to win and there were counterparty risks where they could just fuck off if they wanted to.  If they do... I think you're a big fucking reason why.

You're crying because you think you have a right to 4 bitcoin that you DECIDED on?  You aren't OWED SHIT buddy.

I'm owed even more and I'm not being a little bitch about it.  I actually wrote it off and don't even think it will come soon or maybe even at all... But if it does than I'll be pretty happy because they could have just told me to stick it up my ass.

It has been a fucking long ass time since anything has happened.  I really don't think they can turn it around but who knows.

If I do get paid, I will be happy and start visiting them again.  If it turns out that they were lying about a upgrade for moneypot and rubies, then I will fucking JOIN YOU and we will attack them with everything we got.

But for now... You don't speak for us.  So do everyone that is owed a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP so we can maybe get paid.

To Moneypot:  Your only site is better bets and it seems fucking broken.  Who fucking cares about NEXT. Fix your fucking site and keep your promises and THEN maybe people will start playing with you again and this fucking idiot can go back into whatever hole he crawled out of.

If I say I have a pet dragon, everyone should take it as given and true or you prove me wrong!




Yes you're right, as shown by all the polls you've made about moneypot (some weird ones also) you are definitely not having a vendetta against MP!

Let us quickly grab the definition of vendetta shall we?





Oh would you look at that!
Has something happened in the past between you and MP?

Most definitely!

Is this a long and violent argument?

Long it definitely is and as far as internet violence goes it's quite violent, trying to discredit MP every chance you see.




This would also help the investors, as they could sell them to others more willing to wait. They could also start receiving BTC in smaller amounts which is better aswel due to them being able to spend it sooner, even if it's only a smaller amount.


Also, I'm still waiting on that apology :>

you are wrong and I am not obsessed with any vendetta against MP or anyone else but I insist on my rights and to get a fair treatment and freedom of speech and would MP keep their promises no one would have a reason to ask again and again. same with RBIES etc

I really dont care if you think that I was an investor or not and to question that I was an investor shows that you are toxic towards me! if I say I was an Investor everyone should take it as given and true or you prove me wrong! I lost 25% = 4 BTC in those times and this is a lot of money for all of us but MP was to blame and is still to blame.

it is for all Investors if I am saying MP should not only talk but full fill their promises and immediately and not after years

tradable tokens in general is a good idea but would only help MP owners and not us the Investors. MP should pay the Investors and show us that they are reliable and keeping their promises and this could help to get some Investors back.
MP handled the Bank Roll wrong and you were one of those who told them very early their mistake they did but they didnt listen as always.

@JackpotRacer I think your obsessed vendetta against MP is unhealthy and a bit unreasonable. I'm not even sure if you were an investor during that time, but if you were then I do agree they should pay you (or at least issue some sort of tradable token against it) already been quite a few months.

However, either way; you really need to just move on with your life  

let me quote this posting before it gets deleted

I and the whole MP slack room was not allowed to mention the name RHavar

I always said he is very smart and MP is his baby and therefore he knows MP best. (even I dont like him cuase he started to delete very good postings and btw I know the reason)

now he proposed something very smart and it is not helping us the Investors who should be compensated long time ago but it is helping the MP owners and guess why?

I don't want to quote your constant attacks and misinformation. 

Things take time.  Stop attacking us and let us get the work done. You've made demands for the entirety of your involvement with Moneypot and we've tried to be as civil as possible with you.

R2B2 is being implemented in the upcoming month on BetterBets and soon after when Moneypot V2 hits.  We had to re-work the entire code from when it was right at the finish line to make sure it was secure and properly tested to handle things going forward.     

lies lies lies!

fact is that you start quite a time ago to dont quote. but you also dont quote for example very trusted users like RHavar and some more why that? because they attacked you? Yes they did and with good reason! because they spread misinformation? No! you are attacking me and spreading FUD and misinformation! wrong way to handle a MP business. you need to be fair and transparent

sure it sounds always better to blame" Jackpotracer" but the real reason is that you want to give the posters a chance to delete their negative postings after you PMed them and begged them to delete it. a very good example is the famous posting "you are behaving like a clown" and it was deleted by the poster

if MP goes down and dies just dont blame Jackpotracer because it is your business and your business handling that will kill it and no one else is to blame but you the MP owners!

start to keep your promises and commitments!

compensate the badly beaten Investors as promised! stop telling us "Soon"

almost 2 years you promised v2!  stop telling us "Soon"

more than a year you promised to implement RBIES!  stop telling us "Soon"

RBIES will never be implemented because you invented now R2B2! why that? because of BetterBets? as always BB gets the preferred treatment! why that? you have many more apps!

MP owners Dogedigital, Rango aka Blacksheep aka Matt etc and Ranlo aka Laremar and Head Dev Ray aka CrazyCraiq never behaved civil towards Jackpotracer Team! we and especially me was always defending and never attacking anyone. I will go on defending when attacked. your dictatorship behavior doesnt impress me and will not prevail

Start to Full Fill your promises! and not in a year or more because that could be the time MP is gone!

One potential idea is to issue a tradable token to represent the bitcoins that you're planning on repaying to the investors. Something along the lines of what bitfinex did. That might make things a bit less stressful for you and investors, and give them option of selling their position on secondary markets for a discount if they need their money sooner.

this is a typical answer of a scammer and same for your RBIES announcement for more than a year that it is implemented soon! RBIES will never be implemented! just check your R2B2 thread and read between the lines

Start to compensate your Investors cause they lost enough because of your poor handling of Investors funds

edit
I forgot to mention that you should always quote the one you are answering and not with a ^ because scammers are doing same trick to give the other one the chance to delete it because they bribe them in a PM

(directed at JPR below as he moved his post down): I'm not attacking you because of you asking questions.  I am just tired of your constant attacking and demands through countless threads.  

The compensation was stated to take course sometime over the next year.  It is still being worked on to do this. Making demands and attacking us does not contribute to the speed of getting this accomplished and works counter to what you wish to happen.

edit; Please stop attacking our developer.  The issue has been addressed several times.  Of all those involved with the Moneypot team, we are combined down (quite a bit as well to the point where investors have profited). 

This is why these threads are met with such hostility from me.  It is just a way for you to bash us with old issues.  Stop. Please.