Topic: what is post quality should be? (Read 1503 times)

The quality of the posts is not the problem. The problem is that most of the new content that is being written daily says nothing new as crazy as this might sound. I have stopped reading the other posts past the OP and the thread heading because it's guaranteed to be regurgitated content. And I am sick of reading artificial posts be it with more or less than 75 characters or 100 characters or whatever amount of characters you wish. Interesting topics do pop up though and then we have really intriguing discussions going on but that is rare. Most if not all of the topics get diluted and sidetracked real fast. Personally I feel jaded and I think my time spent here is not worth it any more and I am trying to only scan for new interesting content and pass up on the rest which is just noise.

From the thread title, I knew that the problem with the user was going to be bad English/grammar.
Plenty of advice has been given on improving post quality.

That said, I reiterate my view that negative trust shouldn't be the way out for spamming. A 7 or 14 day ban in this case might have been the best way forward.

Moderators don't step in when there are disputes and DT members leave negative feedback.
DT members shouldn't really be stepping in when the issue is spam / poor quality of posts.

 

Exactly what i wanted to say you got me very nice, its not all about the 75 characters where most ofthereplies were about. I know what constructive is and to answer wrong to an obvious question is not spamming rather than stupidity, and im not stupid i respect every people i met.

We are different people we have different cultures lets exercise ourselves to understand this environment, their opininios and concerns are not to worsen you but to help to build a new you. The replies enlightened me and reminds me that this is not an ordinary forum i met every single day in my local forum. Im sure the same as you do. Every people have different way of understanding.

And if you think someone is threatening your bad english and shows your past, prove that the past and present you are not the same. The same person but not the same in terms of knowledge. I came here with nothing as i stated, respect their opinions it will help you out.

Peace mate.

I have to agree with op's concern as they echo mine also.English is not my first language and as such I always have problem expressing my true thoughts in it.
I do have a lots of time something useful to add to topic of thread or ask an important question but due to my bad English, I ended up making what mosts think an unconstructive post
I know there are local forums but first they are not much active and second more interesting and informative threads are created in English forum

 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17053754
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17053702
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1489512

 


Back to OP I just read some of your posts, you are not red marked because you don't write 75 liner, its because your posts doesn't make any sense at all. I won't suggest you to improve your post quality because its more than obvious that you can't do that.
So, ill suggest you to do this this:
1) Bitcointalk - write in your local board and read posts on other boards
2) Invest in yourself - learn english

edit* I didn't want to be mean, its just how i see things. You can improve your language in about month(english is not my mother language either), but what is most important don't write reply's just for post count. And when you write posts don't think about signature campaign because you will start to count words, than you will think how many lines did you wrote, and you will write some nonsense instead of what you had in mind in first place.

Hello.

Constructive posts
    -every sentence relates to one another which eventually will sum up to express your opinion/position/idea about the topic.
    -beating around the bush will tire not just you but the readers, so go straight to the point.
    -if you want to add color to your post(only if your the artistic,dramatic type), instead of paraphrasing one sentence over and over, insert quotes/images/reference to your claim/point.
-Let US all be aggressive,informative, and sensitive.

one of the guilty but good-looking member,

-jamyr

leaving you all a challenge,
"Let's Make BCTTalk Great Again" 

Reread it after you wrote something, use a dictionary if you are not exactly sure about some words. English isnt my first language either and it probably isnt for most here. Keep reading from different sources. You probably already started to pick up words or new meanings of words you already know. The more you read the easier they come to your mind when you write something. Now abour your rating, write me a PM next month (or next year) and Ill take a look again. Dont just vanish for the time though.

Base on the statement that you were saying above.( it is quite questionable because your rank does not define the current knowledge that you have in this community)

Anyways, back on the topic i guess you were only referring to the post qualified for the signature campaign. Although it doesn't mean that when you reach that 75 min length you already posted constructively( i would rather read that 60 char length with a depth understanding than that 500 char length of nonsense), but somehow people twist their brain and idea because the length is not enough and i guess that is the advantage of that.

Sorry, but I didn't read your post (in full)

And that's not because it was intended for a certain member. In fact, when I see a lot of text (a few full paragraphs), I lose interest at once, even not reading the text. Indeed, I still force myself to read a few first sentences and unless I get intrigued (which a very rare event, to be honest), I stop reading further. And I almost never fail since whatever the poster wanted to say could have been said in just a few sentences (or even words)

It was less than an hour (I hope at least, didnt check) and my hope is that others will read this and find themselves in it. No post here is ever only for the person that is addressed.

About these thread you also mentioned I used to participate in the count to 21 million and similar threads. I still see no problem with them as long as you post there rarely and not most of the time. I used to mod a small forum for a while and we a section literally called "spam" where threads like these would get moved to. I think its somewhat part of forum culture, but it should not annoy those that are looking for discussions. After all its why we have forums, isnt it?

Some keywords you might need:
Be Original, Be on point, make an informative post.
It doesn't necessarily needed to makea post long. Sometimes, makng it simple and on point is much better than having to read long sentences which only circles on one thought. Also refrain from repeating posts that was already posted by someone if unnecessary.

I think a good quality post comes from someone who is interested in what they are talking about, usually the factors of a good post will come from interest in what they are typing. Those factors consist of various details of what it is they are talking about, explanation behind the details of what they are talking about, and good organization and grammar. When I mean if someone is interested in what they say they won't sound like what they are communicating isn't forced and useless information, in other words it is genuine. It also doesn't need to be long, I find a shorter statement that gets the point across is a more quality post then getting the point across with a longer statement.

"what is post quality should be?" Well, that title says it all really - Bad quality. But even the bleeding obvious has to be researched and debated.


Thanks Shorena, Great post, great quality.
Hours of work reading shitposts to help show just one more worthless account.
I used to do that, global mods hated it - they were not interested anyway.
(nor DT, theymos obvs)

I don't read in the threads this "pro gamers" account posts in. No one reads those threads, they just quote and post.
Most accounts in those threads post the same or worse.
This "pro gamer" account, and all those others, are not interested in Bitcoin, only in earning free $'s.
(at least this account doesn't spam discussion, or beginner threads like many other unmoderated farmed accounts)


There would still be no quality.
Unless this account miraculously turns into the next "Fatanut" - quality farmed account
then a false quality may be achieved, i guess.

It is censorship through BS. Drive away any real accounts.
Nice one theymos and your global mods. At least your consistent.
Every bitcoin forum you run, you ruin. (with Core support, of course)

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john2231 above giving advise here. Joke. Just another shitposter, cant speak the language, makes no sense, no quality.
Paid to fuck us all over. Nice one Bitmixer.io

Upon checking your post i seen 1 or 2 lines you are posting and we can say as for my own opinion you are posting less effort..
That is why they are consider it as spam because you are just posting less effort or not so informative post..
So for me the quality post should be in topic and you give more effort than just reaching above 75 characters to be approve as quality poster..
I think you have still chance just to prove and contribute here in forum help others and increase the quality of your post and try to ask them  again. to remove negative trust because i saw your profile like you mention you receive negative trust..

Think of it this way - your posts will be accepted as long as they convey your opinion or information clearly. As long as you do this, you'll be fine. the reason that 75 character limit is there is to stop people fron saying "Yes i agree" and the like. In my opinion, it should be near 200 characters.

Alright since you want to improve and recently said I would write my opinion on a few of those here it comes. Take it or leave it.

Disclaimer:[1] Im not staff, not related and even though im part of the default trust network I will not leave negative rating on spammer (or not) accounts nor will I leave counter ratings. I dont think trust ratings are appropriate here. Those that will try to discuss this here will be ignored. Write your opinion/arguments about these topic in the existing topics.

I was reading your last 250 posts starting from here[2]. I wrote this while reading so bear with me when you think but it was different later. Your first few posts have large breaks between them and you mainly try to join a campaign. Two month and you did 9 posts.

There is a single post where you engage half heartedly in a discussion in offtopic[3]. Its about blogging from a phone, the OP has 3 questions you reply to one of them. Your answer is very generic in terms of "phones are limited vs. computers". If you have experience in the area I think you could have posted more esp. in regards to the other questions. The timing of your post before and after make it look like a post just to collect the activity points for the period (21.06.2016 14:40:00). Your next post is just after the next period started, by only a few hours. The question that comes to mind is: Is this your only account?

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Here[4] you write that the thread should not have been bumped by the person you quote. Write a report instead, bumping old threads without bringing something new to it is against the rules ("necro posting"). Id say its borderline necro posting.

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Here[5] you ask in a sales thread whether or not neteller can be reversed the same as paypal payments. This is offtopic to the thread. Either search for an existing answer or ask it in the proper section (trading discusison IMHO). It also spawns a small discussion about the topic which usually is a good thing, but here it just helps the OP of the thread to bump it 3 times within 30 minutes. On of them is OP asking you to remove your post.

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More posts asking questions in a sales thread that have little purpose. You participate in the post your X threads in offtopic[6]. If you want to improve, avoid these kind of threads in any section. You can spot them by the countless replies without any discussion or back and forth between people. They have next to no substance to them and are more like a survey than a discussion thread.

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Lets skip the used panty thread and get to another topic, like this[7]. Someone was asking for help with their web wallet, its not actually changed to spam, but lets ignore that here. They have some wallet words and ask whether they can restore them on a different web wallet. You reply that you dont know, but you dont think its possible. You are the first person to actually reply. This would have been a great opportunity for you to help someone. Do quick research and write a better answer. Maybe find out which format these other web wallets use and link to sources. Not only will you learn something, but also potentially someone else.

Would you want "Im not sure, maybe X" or "Yes/No, because as you can confirm yourself here ." when you have a question about your coins?

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Next general thing, mega threads. Very long threads with lots of replies.

This is your reply with the quote post you reply to

Quote from: Pro Gamers on August 27, 2016, 05:04:28 PM

Quote from: techfm86 on August 27, 2016, 12:07:24 PM

For a steady income perhaps the best way is to open your own business. Depending on your skills, it may bring you good results.

This is better and this is also what i wanted too. I have an idea of what business i should open but the fund is the only problem im currently dealing with since im just recently started of having it and this way how im using bitcoin to add some funds to my planned business. Business is not only good for me if succeed but also good for my country and the community i belong.

This is another one 10+ pages earlier

Quote from: crairezx20 on July 15, 2016, 12:16:13 PM

If you are looking for a steady income better to look for a business you start and plan your earnings to invest to your own business for the first time you will lose but dont worry if you success promoting your site you will have a possive income.. daily or weekly..

The topic has already been discussed. You also state that you have your own business, yet in an earlier post you said you would quit your job if you could earn money with . Also, as mentioned above. If you have a business Im sure you can provide some insights.

In general try to stay away from these very long topics unless you actually read it entirely. If you do you are less likely to engage in a discussion that already took place in the same thread or you bring in points from the previous discussion to make this iteration of the topic more interesting.

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Here[8] is an example for what Hilarious describes above. Lots of words for "I bought a guitar because I want to make videos on youtube with it". The rest is flavortext. You get a reply though, perfect moment to advertise your channel with a link to one of your videos playing said guitar.[9]

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Quote from: Pro Gamers on August 28, 2016, 08:45:03 PM

Quote from: freebutcaged on August 28, 2016, 07:04:46 PM

I wanted to thank you guys even though you fucked me over by freezing TPG coin but ever since I'm earning $20 daily from your dice even with it being rigged, so thanks a lot yobit love yall.

Woah i never heard someone plays on yobit dice until now and had a win. I used to play there twice but i stopped not because i lose but the first thing is its not good to play on there due too many aspects.

Why not expand on these aspects?

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Quote from: Pro Gamers on August 29, 2016, 11:45:11 AM

Are you saying you cant move your coins on your xapo wallet to another wallet you have?

Quote from: deepaksharma on August 29, 2016, 09:56:37 AM

-snip-
When I try to send coins it says unable to send.
-snip-

Quote from: Pro Gamers on August 29, 2016, 11:45:11 AM

Does the amount you were trying to move is big?

Why does it matter?

Quote from: Pro Gamers on August 29, 2016, 11:45:11 AM

I just want to tell you bitcoin user should be anonymous and there is no need to give your identity just to be able to use a bitcoin service like xapo. Be very careful next time.

Bitcoin is not anonymous and xapo can and does request their wallet users to profit id information. Again, someone has problem with their coins, do you think you helped them? Would you appreciate a reply like yours if all yours coins were frozen with a service?

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Quote from: Pro Gamers on August 30, 2016, 05:05:49 PM

Another account with green light? Should not be sold i know its your right to do whatever you wanted to do, but if your account goes to a evil acting like human, something bad will happen.

If you think its evil, dont bump their 3 day old thread to the top.

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When you actually care you someone make better posts.

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/about-post-count-1606042

I ll stop now (post #121 from latest) I dont think there will be significant changes to your posting style or new points I want to tell you. It boils down to what hilarious already wrote, put some thought and time in it. Yes it can be difficult sometimes when others around you are posting low quality as well, but its worth it. Before you hit post ask yourself:

#1 do I really want to write this publicly?
#2 does it help anyone but myself if I do?
#3 does my post bring something new to the discussion/topic at hand?

If you answer all the questions with no, just move on without posting. Sometimes its enough to have written the post, it must not be published.

[1] Its a bit sad that I have to write something like this at all, isnt it?
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14666389
[3] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15365039
[4] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15508917
[5] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15511574
[6] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15525172
[7] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1594078
[8] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16060811
[9] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16061178

Forced posts go a long way

If you are not interested in posting, putting more effort and thought into your posts will only make you tired and bored, even if you keep a required level of "constructiveness". I'd rather say you shouldn't actually put a lot of effort in your posts. If you are truly interested in the topic or some post stings you to the quick, it won't require much effort on your side to write a refreshing reply or suggest an interesting idea

That is what i was trying to do, its just 'we' have different way of understanding. My form of speaking is different to anybody and the same to everyone elses.

I dont have the knowledge they might be looking of.

post quality should be something of clear understanding,depends on the angle with which you view it from.