[✅]What is the different between the Archived user and the Banned ?

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Quote from: Crypto Library on June 08, 2024, 06:35:21 AM

I want to also know about the 'ban evasion' and how people do it and how we can catch them.

I am not going to teach anyone how to perform ban evasion, but they simply create or buy different account and continue with the same activity they did with previously banned account.
Usually this members make mistakes with using same or connected addresses, same social media accounts, they post same links, and they use similar writing styles like on their banned accounts.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 08, 2024, 07:32:11 AM

Personally I don't think this topic is relevant for Meta board.

And maybe, I think that I have at least some words on this topic that are discussing about the forum.

Quote from: ibminer on June 08, 2024, 11:45:11 PM

"inactive" on BPIP is any user with a last active date >90 days ago.

"archived" on BPIP is when a user becomes "inactive" and has 0 trust, 0 merit, and 0 posts. Autoban & nuke'd users are also get automatically set to archived when the ban occurs.

Thank you for clearing my all confusions

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Quote from: ibminer on June 08, 2024, 11:45:11 PM

"inactive" on BPIP is any user with a last active date >90 days ago.

It is not the same on the forum definition for inactive users. In this forum, it is 6 months.

Quote from: achow101 on March 27, 2017, 12:34:41 PM

It shows up if a user has logged in with their last login time being at least 6 months ago.

After 6 inactive months, if the user logs in account again, on profile page, click on Trust, we will see this note.

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This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity

Woke up users appear in security log page https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

Can I know why the BPIP team picked 90 days, not 6 months as same as the forum, please?

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"inactive" on BPIP is any user with a last active date >90 days ago.

"archived" on BPIP is when a user becomes "inactive" and has 0 trust, 0 merit, and 0 posts. Autoban & nuke'd users are also get automatically set to archived when the ban occurs.

The "Geshers" account mentioned in the OP will have both "Archived" & "Banned" status on the site. The extension appears to just display the banned status for those accounts, but any banned account would also get archived.

Once an account is archived, our parsers no longer check the profile. If an archived account makes a post, the parsers would see that and remove the archived status.

In Roy443's case, there was a locked job interfering with the check on recent posts yesterday/today (thanks for the alert!!

), so parsers didn't see those posts, and the account didn't get its "archived" status removed. The locked job is clear now, but in unique situations like this, anyone can also use "Refresh now" on BPIP's profile page to queue parsers to check the profile and get the status updated for the site & extension.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on June 08, 2024, 07:00:59 AM

Archived accounts generally is based on the inactivity on such accounts and it isn’t restricted to accounts that were once active but even brand new accounts that may for some reason not have any activity on them for a long time could be archived too.

I am not familiar with archived accounts. I am familiar with ban and ban evasion.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on June 08, 2024, 06:35:21 AM

I want to also know about the 'ban evasion' and how people do it and how we can catch them.

It simply means that the user created another account when the former was banned. Ban evasion was introduced and it immediately made the creation of another account during the period which your old account is banned for a sacrilege..

Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 08, 2024, 07:32:11 AM

Personally I don't think this topic is relevant for Meta board. If someone like the OP is not able to understand the reason why their is archive & banned user then it is the end.

Eh boy... What are you hitting him hard like that for? He just asked a harmless question that shouldn't even be a problem. Personally, there are several experiences I may not have had, since I've never been in a position of getting my account banned.. if I must know, I need to ask .
Edit: if you've gotten enough response, I'd prefer you look the thread to avoid spam.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 08, 2024, 07:32:11 AM

Personally I don't think this topic is relevant for Meta board. If someone like the OP is not able to understand the reason why their is archive & banned user then it is the end.

No matter whatever standards we want for the forum, here is still forum and should still be used as a forum. I don't think that it is bad for a user (irrespective of the rank) to ask an honest question they don't understand. It is either we answer the questions or we scroll pass. We shouldn't try to always make people feel they don't know or understand what they are doing. From people's question, some other people also learn. I didn't know that a user's profile can show archive if not for this post. Thanks!

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 08, 2024, 07:32:11 AM

Personally I don't think this topic is relevant for Meta board. If someone like the OP is not able to understand the reason why their is archive & banned user then it is the end. As per my logic a ban means banned from the forum. Archive means that the user of the forum was active earlier but haven't been active for a few years or they got some kind of status.

Both archive and ban might suggest that the user has been a contributing high rank members but got banned as not following the rules.

You don't see the relevance of this topic, and you're yelling at the OP for asking an honest question about something they literally have no knowledge about but are eager to learn about; meanwhile, the last sentence of your post suggests that you and the OP are not different ( you don't know it either, just following crowd) Grin

Quote from: Faisal2202 on June 08, 2024, 12:54:14 PM

End of what? haha career of the OP. I think he should worry about it haha just kidding. The meanings of the words are easily understandable but like OP many people might not be aware of the difference in the context of the forum.

I didn't understand what he want the OP to END honestly, the words are often used interchangeably on the BPIP so it's worth asking.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 08, 2024, 07:32:11 AM

Personally I don't think this topic is relevant for Meta board. If someone like the OP is not able to understand the reason why their is archive & banned user then it is the end.

End of what? haha career of the OP. I think he should worry about it haha just kidding. The meanings of the words are easily understandable but like OP many people might not be aware of the difference in the context of the forum. That's why I think its best not to end it hehe. Overall, I think those who said, this topic don't belong in Meta but in the BPIP announcement channel.

I don't think it really belongs there, as the discussion is about the member status so. Overall its the decision of the Mods to move the topic. The simplest explanation to it has already been explained by the first replier. I don't use BPIP extension but once I used it, its a good extension.

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Personally I don't think this topic is relevant for Meta board. If someone like the OP is not able to understand the reason why their is archive & banned user then it is the end. As per my logic a ban means banned from the forum. Archive means that the user of the forum was active earlier but haven't been active for a few years or they got some kind of status.

Both archive and ban might suggest that the user has been a contributing high rank members but got banned as not following the rules.

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I think this answer to your question from @suchmoon on BPIP.org thread

Quote from: suchmoon on February 07, 2020, 02:10:43 PM

Interesting. The lowercase one is this user apparently: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/murat-252546 and it seems to have been renamed to "murat_" (with underscore at the end) to make way for Murat. BPIP doesn't automatically refresh archived (inactive for a long time or banned) profiles unless they wake up but clicking "Refresh Profile" manually should fix this.

This information is to back up @PX-Z statement. In general, It’s a status for a user that is inactive/banned. I believe this thread is already concluded and @tranthidung is right that this topic should be post on BP.org thread or on service discussion since this not forum feature related.

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Quote from: PX-Z on June 08, 2024, 06:41:33 AM

I guess after sometime if the user become active again, and the bpip scrapper scrape the user profile again, that archive badge will be removed.

Just to add and keep things a lot simple;

Archived accounts generally is based on the inactivity on such accounts and it isn’t restricted to accounts that were once active but even brand new accounts that may for some reason not have any activity on them for a long time could be archived too.

Ban on the other hand counts for someone whom has broken some vital forum rules and it might come in the form of a temporal ban which counts in a couple of weeks or months even, it could even apply to some of your forum spaces like the signature space and ban could be permanent too.

Ban evasion on the other hand comes in the form of, any activity from a banned user in other to access those services for which he was banned from participating in. That is, you got a permanent ban and you go ahead to create a new account, your evading ban but, it remains unknown until you’re caught.

Means to catching these:
You’re able to establish a clear trace from posting patterns, wallet address and other means available to you prove the inevitable. The penalty for ban evasion is having that new account banned. In essence, the ban of account isn’t just about the user but the person behind the user.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on June 08, 2024, 06:35:21 AM

I want to also know about the 'ban evasion' and how people do it and how we can catch them.

Evading ban here is when you use a different account aside the banned account to still continue posting on the forum and In the worst case disguising not to be known. There are multiple ways that banned evaders are discovered either through submission of same address or informations on the forum which had been used by the a banned account in the past, smilies posting pattern; although a weak accusation also but it is used to gather more informations.

Some people make mistake thinking it’s an account that is banned and not themselves and they go ahead with a new account, the punishment mostly for ban evaders are permanent ban on all the related accounts or a red trust on them

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Quote from: Crypto Library on June 08, 2024, 06:35:21 AM

I have sawn lots of banned accounts by BPIP and that's why I'm confused about these two BANNED and the ARCHIVED, are they the same?

It is about BPIP, not Bitcointalk.org forum and you need to ask it in the announcement thread of BPIP project.

Ask there.
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Banned can be temporary banned but Archived is possibly for Permanent banned or Auto banned cases. My guess only, you will need confirmation of difference from BPIP team members, ibminer or suchmoon.

You can see Auto ban in forum's modlog page https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php. Search with "Autoban user"

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As far as I understand when a topic is locked then you will see "View Archive" link text from BPIP extension.
Ban means a user is ban for a certain duration.
Ban evasion means a user is evading ban, creating another account and trying to continue his activities while one of his account is ban.

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If you will hover the "archive" badge, there's a note "183 days since last activity", it means that this user just woke up from a long period of inactivity, this note can be seen on the trust page too, while banned user is literally banned.

I guess after sometime if the user become active again, and the bpip scrapper scrape the user profile again, that archive badge will be removed.

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Today As doing my routine exploring I saw an Archived user post on 1 years old bounty topic and the BPIP extension shows that the ARCHIVED text. I have sawn lots of banned accounts by BPIP and that's why I'm confused about these two BANNED and the ARCHIVED, are they the same?

Quote from: Roy443 on June 08, 2024, 06:15:49 AM

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Roy443
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/roy443-3594372
Telegram Username: @Roy764
Participated Campaigns: Telegram, Discord
BSC Wallet Address: 0x5D7Cba5980d15FC8396a9efd4dC7224496697F7A

I want to also know about the 'ban evasion' and how people do it and how we can catch them.

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Explanation of differences:

Quote from: ibminer on June 08, 2024, 11:45:11 PM

"inactive" on BPIP is any user with a last active date >90 days ago.

"archived" on BPIP is when a user becomes "inactive" and has 0 trust, 0 merit, and 0 posts. Autoban & nuke'd users are also get automatically set to archived when the ban occurs.

The "Geshers" account mentioned in the OP will have both "Archived" & "Banned" status on the site. The extension appears to just display the banned status for those accounts, but any banned account would also get archived.

Once an account is archived, our parsers no longer check the profile. If an archived account makes a post, the parsers would see that and remove the archived status.

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