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Topic: What is the first sign of a scam project (ico) for you? (Read 2728 times)

legendary
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I believed we now have plenty of HYIP Monitor sites, Why don't we form a similar concept an ICO Monitor/Analyzer sites? Expert on spotting ICO scammers should lead this ICO Monitor/Analyzer sites Cheesy

HYIP at least have to make a claim about how they generate high returns. People can analyze that and attack that.
With ICOs, even that is not necessary.
full member
Activity: 130
Merit: 100
thecryptoconsultant.com
This problem is actually quite hard to spot
Sometimes it depends on the heart, the greed of the developers
Behind the ICO projects are the 'dev'
There are dozens, hundreds of ICO projects on a daily basis
Be smart to choose yourself a best project
ICO idea:
+ Application (learning, game, health, ...)
Business model?
ICO technology
+ On which platform? (Blockchain, Etherum, Wase, ..)
Traditional
+ WEDsite
+ Blog
+ Forum
+ Advertising
+ Facebok
+ Twitter
+ Github
+ Youtube
...
Time to open sale?
Initial ICO price?
What is the Token Number?
How much capital to call? (How many tokens are sold)
Market
+ Scale
+ Object
Long-term vision (5 years, 10 years, ...)
Development team (Who are they?)
TOKEN DISTRIBUTION
+ Dev (%)
+ Bouties (%)
+ Pulic sale (5)
...

I would add to it, which Platform is it based on, I would stay away of all project that are built on top of an existing blockchain but not built on top of top 5 crypto currencies. (e.g. Next platform thats not user friendly at all).

Victor

Just out of curiosity.... What are some examples of "next platform"?  Are you referring to something like Waves?  Thanks.


I mean the next platform it is a project by itself, there is the Next coin do to stuff on the Next platform. it will switch to ardor soon. I would stay away from it for a long time. It is full of bugs
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What is the first sign of a scam project (ico) for you?
It has the word "ICO" in it. Crazy huh?

And it's true.
full member
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So, I can see some people consider uncapped ICO's as a sign of scam and others that consider the capped ICOs as a sign of scam, is that correct?

I think that some projects might fail even if they are not scams. A scam is when someone writes a whitepaper and creates a website promising to develop something he has not the intention of actually building. We maybe won't know what the real scams are until some months or years from now.

The cap raised during the ICO cannot determine whether it is a scam or not, but maybe it can determine if the project is a good investment (considering it is not a scam) or not, because very large caps will probably devalue after listing on exchanges.

Probably the biggest sign of of a scam project is the use of fake names and profiles in the Team section.

If the team has a product under development (or already developed), uses their real names, provides transparency about their operation, and stuff like that, if their ICO is uncapped and people send hundreds of million of dollars, the company might become overvalued, but I don't think it automatically qualifies the project as a scam. If instead they have a capped ICO and sell out in seconds, for me it also doesn't make the project a certain scam.
newbie
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The background of the team, but also the amount of market cap they have over a period of time, if their coin doesn't fluctuate in value I'm assuming not much is happening at all, and therefore it is usesess to accumulate said coin
newbie
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I believed we now have plenty of HYIP Monitor sites, Why don't we form a similar concept an ICO Monitor/Analyzer sites? Expert on spotting ICO scammers should lead this ICO Monitor/Analyzer sites Cheesy
hero member
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As for me, if I decide to buy an ICO tokens after some deep research, I will always keep my eye on it latest news, join in the slack, follow the twitter and blog if they have, and I will try to see if the team is working hard or not.
hero member
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Question for all of you that consider every ICO to be a SCAM, how else would a company distribute their coins?  And don't say air drop, because no one is going to spend significant time and money on a project to give it away for free.

If they are to have an ICO

Widely advertised beforehand
Uncapped with long duration
If possible POW phase 50%
Road map with milestones/fund release intervals.

anything less is setting up to be an insider market making colluding scam project.



There should be a working product or as much as possible the project can be vision potentially. When we can vision it chances it can get successful plus the team should be onhand and easy to contact too. Be smart in choosing ICO.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
Question for all of you that consider every ICO to be a SCAM, how else would a company distribute their coins?  And don't say air drop, because no one is going to spend significant time and money on a project to give it away for free.

If they are to have an ICO

Widely advertised beforehand
Uncapped with long duration
If possible POW phase 50%
Road map with milestones/fund release intervals.

anything less is setting up to be an insider market making colluding scam project.

full member
Activity: 336
Merit: 102
Question for all of you that consider every ICO to be a SCAM, how else would a company distribute their coins?  And don't say air drop, because no one is going to spend significant time and money on a project to give it away for free.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
First sign is the letter I

Suspicion starts to form.

If then C comes right next to it I am on red alert.

An O after the C = 95% scam.

I am now looking for the word capped or limit - I spot it.

100% scam confirmed.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
This problem is actually quite hard to spot
Sometimes it depends on the heart, the greed of the developers
Behind the ICO projects are the 'dev'
There are dozens, hundreds of ICO projects on a daily basis
Be smart to choose yourself a best project
ICO idea:
+ Application (learning, game, health, ...)
Business model?
ICO technology
+ On which platform? (Blockchain, Etherum, Wase, ..)
Traditional
+ WEDsite
+ Blog
+ Forum
+ Advertising
+ Facebok
+ Twitter
+ Github
+ Youtube
...
Time to open sale?
Initial ICO price?
What is the Token Number?
How much capital to call? (How many tokens are sold)
Market
+ Scale
+ Object
Long-term vision (5 years, 10 years, ...)
Development team (Who are they?)
TOKEN DISTRIBUTION
+ Dev (%)
+ Bouties (%)
+ Pulic sale (5)
...

I would add to it, which Platform is it based on, I would stay away of all project that are built on top of an existing blockchain but not built on top of top 5 crypto currencies. (e.g. Next platform thats not user friendly at all).

Victor

Just out of curiosity.... What are some examples of "next platform"?  Are you referring to something like Waves?  Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
In fact, ICOs project in 2017 or last year are can become to scam project, but the time they become to scammer still long. Because if try scam at now, they will miss opportunity make money with this type. Not have rules can helps them easy to PR and creating project, just need use some money from crowdsale, they can easy listing to exchange site and user will say they are really project Roll Eyes
You mean that they would rather finish an ico, issue tokens, get listed on the exchange and only then scam than disappearing right after money is raised?
full member
Activity: 130
Merit: 100
thecryptoconsultant.com
This problem is actually quite hard to spot
Sometimes it depends on the heart, the greed of the developers
Behind the ICO projects are the 'dev'
There are dozens, hundreds of ICO projects on a daily basis
Be smart to choose yourself a best project
ICO idea:
+ Application (learning, game, health, ...)
Business model?
ICO technology
+ On which platform? (Blockchain, Etherum, Wase, ..)
Traditional
+ WEDsite
+ Blog
+ Forum
+ Advertising
+ Facebok
+ Twitter
+ Github
+ Youtube
...
Time to open sale?
Initial ICO price?
What is the Token Number?
How much capital to call? (How many tokens are sold)
Market
+ Scale
+ Object
Long-term vision (5 years, 10 years, ...)
Development team (Who are they?)
TOKEN DISTRIBUTION
+ Dev (%)
+ Bouties (%)
+ Pulic sale (5)
...

I would add to it, which Platform is it based on, I would stay away of all project that are built on top of an existing blockchain but not built on top of top 5 crypto currencies. (e.g. Next platform thats not user friendly at all).

Victor
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
The team, some are just joker, like 16 years old team member called himself experienced, and then the project itself, does it has a clear plan or just pie in the sky
hero member
Activity: 625
Merit: 501
In fact, ICOs project in 2017 or last year are can become to scam project, but the time they become to scammer still long. Because if try scam at now, they will miss opportunity make money with this type. Not have rules can helps them easy to PR and creating project, just need use some money from crowdsale, they can easy listing to exchange site and user will say they are really project Roll Eyes
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
This problem is actually quite hard to spot
Sometimes it depends on the heart, the greed of the developers
Behind the ICO projects are the 'dev'
There are dozens, hundreds of ICO projects on a daily basis
Be smart to choose yourself a best project
ICO idea:
+ Application (learning, game, health, ...)
Business model?
ICO technology
+ On which platform? (Blockchain, Etherum, Wase, ..)
Traditional
+ WEDsite
+ Blog
+ Forum
+ Advertising
+ Facebok
+ Twitter
+ Github
+ Youtube
...
Time to open sale?
Initial ICO price?
What is the Token Number?
How much capital to call? (How many tokens are sold)
Market
+ Scale
+ Object
Long-term vision (5 years, 10 years, ...)
Development team (Who are they?)
TOKEN DISTRIBUTION
+ Dev (%)
+ Bouties (%)
+ Pulic sale (5)
...
copper member
Activity: 90
Merit: 0
  • The idea itself (real pain?, 10x?, market (size, stage, penetration point, timing ...), product-market fit, tech behind it (is blockchain solving something real, is it necessary?), economics, long-term vision (how will world look like with this product and w/o in 5, 10 years?))
  • Team (experience, size, relations and dynamics (hard to judge without personal talk, presentation - it would be a good idea to do a quick promo video like you need to do for YC application)
  • Tech (website, social pages, mail, MVP/working prototype (if in the right stage) ...)
  • ICO timing and structure, big allocation of funds to team, escrow ...

full member
Activity: 194
Merit: 100
CryptoPuzzle.com developer
It's not always a "scam" but you can make very bad investment if there is no cap, long period investing (1 month), tech already existed, blockchain is useless for this tech etc.
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 1031
Do they have a functioning product?

I they're selling vapor, it's better to stay away.

Do they really need a token?

Many of these projects could work with bitcoin and litecoin, there is no good reason for them to have their own token.
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