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Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

I guess bitcoin is suffering price depreciation because of most renowned countries like China, US and Africa demoting it values with their economy influence. Most of this nations shares on bitcoin are on high pedal, since they withdrew from investing their state capital and refused to support the existence of bitcoin, the price has not seen a better chance of pumping soon.

In future, it might be different but what if this nations keep strong kicking against bitcoin without reprojected their economy resources, will bitcoin survive for a long time?

What do you is the future of bitcoin at this point?
Do nations or people have power over bitcoin price regulations?
What is your speculation if bitcoin keeps revaluing in price?
Do you see a good outlook soon?
Let's argue your points.

I think that big countries such as China and the USA are afraid to use bitcoin as one of the main payment systems because their economies have been formed for a long time, the order has been established, whether it is honest or not. And bitcoin can shake this order, since this cryptocurrency carries the idea of freedom. And in the future, the economic sector of countries may cease to exist because of bitcoin.

they want to be in control of the whole world, with bitcoin there is no transaction distance between countries, and of course USD or yuan doesn't matter anymore, that's a possibility that made china ban bitcoin, but even so there are still many countries that accept it even though they don't legalize it, because of course it can become a new tax object for a country, and of course they can't stop bitcoiners in that country, so many countries take advantage of the tax sector. so that in the future more and more bitcoiners will come and they are already prepared

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Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

I guess bitcoin is suffering price depreciation because of most renowned countries like China, US and Africa demoting it values with their economy influence. Most of this nations shares on bitcoin are on high pedal, since they withdrew from investing their state capital and refused to support the existence of bitcoin, the price has not seen a better chance of pumping soon.

In future, it might be different but what if this nations keep strong kicking against bitcoin without reprojected their economy resources, will bitcoin survive for a long time?

What do you is the future of bitcoin at this point?
Do nations or people have power over bitcoin price regulations?
What is your speculation if bitcoin keeps revaluing in price?
Do you see a good outlook soon?
Let's argue your points.

I think that big countries such as China and the USA are afraid to use bitcoin as one of the main payment systems because their economies have been formed for a long time, the order has been established, whether it is honest or not. And bitcoin can shake this order, since this cryptocurrency carries the idea of freedom. And in the future, the economic sector of countries may cease to exist because of bitcoin.

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Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

I guess bitcoin is suffering price depreciation because of most renowned countries like China, US and Africa demoting it values with their economy influence.

China has done more harm than good for bitcoin and its not surprising because we all know how controlling their government loves to be.. But it's no brainer i think the people their have become more smarter with the use of cryptocurrencies such that not even crypto bans will stop the revolution in these parts of the world.

On Africa thought these guys have contributed positively after their home currencies have been barted by poor performing economies and they have turned to Bitcoin for better stable alternative currency.

Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

Most of this nations shares on bitcoin are on high pedal, since they withdrew from investing their state capital and refused to support the existence of bitcoin, the price has not seen a better chance of pumping soon.

Bitcoin has done it time and time again without this money and it will do it again just hang in there.

Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

In future, it might be different but what if this nations keep strong kicking against bitcoin without reprojected their economy resources, will bitcoin survive for a long time?

You keep insisting on bitcoins success depending on a nation investing, this is not the best idea.. Crypto is better off with individuals investing as this is the financial freedom they long for.

Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

What do you is the future of bitcoin at this point?
Do nations or people have power over bitcoin price regulations?
What is your speculation if bitcoin keeps revaluing in price?
Do you see a good outlook soon?
Let's argue your points.

For starters bitcoin price will forever remain unregulated and will depend on supply and demand to determine its performance and not regulations.

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Quote from: peter0425 on March 05, 2023, 09:28:00 PM

actually it is a wrong statement about "Have No Access to Banks" because I find this impossible because all of us can access banks unless we deny using them and that is what the truth here.
those people who don't wanna use banks and don't wanna be interfere of 3rd parties and government are those people that wants and love using bitcoin and yes I am one of those like yours guys.

But, it is definitely a good thing for poorer nation citizens to work for richer nation citizens and make a good profit. As I always say, 500 dollars may not be a lot for American coder, but could be a great amount for me.

it is indeed mate, and besides we have our own budgeting and capacity to expense and we are not lucky as what you said american that can earn that much but at least our problem in financial is a little lower that they are Grin

but again , we all have access in baking but we just denied this for the benefits as we are bitcoin and crypto users.

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Powerful countries has a big effect in bitcoin and crypto market but let us set aside that because even how they wanted to adopt or not the crypto still people will decide about that.

we have seen so many cases files against crypto in other countries but this stands strong till now meaning? we are the power of bitcoin and not the government because even if they ban this yet we can still purchase and keep hold and use.

Quote from: GreenStox on March 06, 2023, 11:56:59 AM

in my opinion if the internet and digital currencies continue to develop and be used then bitcoins and altcoins will continue to exist and survive, just like money or goods that are commonly used, they will continue to exist when people need them.
not much different from bitcoin, and what I see from year to year bitcoin continues to rise.

but the question is about the powerful country and that is something needed to address here lol.

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Quote from: peter0425 on March 05, 2023, 09:28:00 PM

actually it is a wrong statement about "Have No Access to Banks" because I find this impossible because all of us can access banks unless we deny using them and that is what the truth here.
those people who don't wanna use banks and don't wanna be interfere of 3rd parties and government are those people that wants and love using bitcoin and yes I am one of those like yours guys.

I think it is basically about the fact that world is not just our nations and there could be some poor nations with very poor towns and even poorer villages, which means that those people may not have access to any ATM or any type of bank. I am not saying this is common, it is very rare, and to be honest bitcoin wouldn't really change much for those people unless it's all adopted by everyone in that village, which doesn't really exists right now.

But, it is definitely a good thing for poorer nation citizens to work for richer nation citizens and make a good profit. As I always say, 500 dollars may not be a lot for American coder, but could be a great amount for me.

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in my opinion if the internet and digital currencies continue to develop and be used then bitcoins and altcoins will continue to exist and survive, just like money or goods that are commonly used, they will continue to exist when people need them.
not much different from bitcoin, and what I see from year to year bitcoin continues to rise.

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Quote from: Charmekkd on February 25, 2023, 09:13:07 PM

bitcoin is not specifically for a particular country but bitcoin is made for people who are interested in investing in it, so in my opinion bitcoin will not fall because it is not controlled by the state but by enthusiasts, so in my opinion bitcoin for the future certain be bright.

Why keep asking about bitcoin to be investment when the truth is Bitcoin is to be used as currency and not just for investment and Holding because it is given right?

cryptoCURRENCY so how do you call this always as investing material?
and also as enthusiast word? I rather call it as believer lol.that is bitcoin.

That is unfortunately thrown to aside for the time being. There will be a time when people will realize that bitcoin is not just an investment but also a currency and they can use it. There are "some" people who use it at the moment but it's really not a lot. I personally believe that we will be seeing much higher prices in bitcoin when that happens, but we need to wait for it a bit more.

We have to agree that people haven't used their investments as currency for a while now, sure back in ancient times people used gold coins for both investment and payment, but for centuries we have been using money and investment as different things, bringing them both together is a hard job.

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bitcoin is not specifically for a particular country but bitcoin is made for people who are interested in investing in it, so in my opinion bitcoin will not fall because it is not controlled by the state but by enthusiasts, so in my opinion bitcoin for the future certain be bright.

not just investing but in using this also, we cannot deny that in the past years bitcoin become popular because of people using this for their payments online and even in gambling online.

so i think this is not only for Powerful nation or not even in lowest nations instead this is for the world to use and to progress.

Bitcoin is for those individual who have no access to banks this has been the goal since then so without a powerful nations I believe we can still be good but of course as we aim for mass adoption we are hoping that every country will start to accept Bitcoin, this might look too impossible but I believe it will happen soon. Bitcoin serve its purpose, other countries sees the opportunity to ride the trend and make money as well while some are still hesitant, we are still in the process of giving out more information about Bitcoin and I think this may take more time.

actually it is a wrong statement about "Have No Access to Banks" because I find this impossible because all of us can access banks unless we deny using them and that is what the truth here.
those people who don't wanna use banks and don't wanna be interfere of 3rd parties and government are those people that wants and love using bitcoin and yes I am one of those like yours guys.

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Quote from: Anonylz on March 05, 2023, 01:56:49 PM

I would say the future of btc will be as good even without the powerful countries support.

Only if internet keeps existing. Not to betaken for granted IMHO.

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I would say the future of btc will be as good even without the powerful countries support. Besides I don't think btc price suffering has anything to do with what your are assuming. You already know btc price movement has both the bull and bear season and now is not the season when the price move up a lot. I bet you won't think the same when the bull season began. If powerful countries where truly part of btc growth, the story would be different.

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Although the news has some impacts on worth of coins but bitcoins will remain pumping because it has proved that is one of beneficial coin and is never disappointed its holders. Bitcoin may sometime have pump but may be dump on other side but actually these are two essential parts of its worthiness and due to these two characteristics it provides useful results to its holders. PEOPLE or Nation cannot control the value of bitcoin because it is a decentralized so they just spread news about bitcoin but cannot control its status or worth.

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Quote from: Blisszi on February 19, 2023, 09:09:12 AM

I guess bitcoin is suffering price depreciation because of most renowned countries like China, US and Africa demoting it values with their economy influence. Most of this nations shares on bitcoin are on high pedal, since they withdrew from investing their state capital and refused to support the existence of bitcoin, the price has not seen a better chance of pumping soon.

In future, it might be different but what if this nations keep strong kicking against bitcoin without reprojected their economy resources, will bitcoin survive for a long time?

What do you is the future of bitcoin at this point?
Do nations or people have power over bitcoin price regulations?
What is your speculation if bitcoin keeps revaluing in price?
Do you see a good outlook soon?
Let's argue your points.

Bitcoin is not in the stage of mass adoption yet. Mass adoption means most people from around the globe will start using it. It will be started during the bitcoin supercycle(I think it is the year 2025). Also, bitcoin is more decentralized. So the nations or people can not change that fact. The Price is changing with the news.

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Bitcoin will be fine, remember Bitcoin being banned in China but still Bitcoin able to survive it and that is because is not centered to one country only and there's no country that controls Bitcoin so technically it will survive especially not that many are already informed about the importance of Bitcoin. Those powerful nations will be force as well to adopt or else they will be left behind. Foreign investors are now coming in to support a crypto project, I'll see this a a good era for Bitcoin.

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Quote from: DOH! on March 04, 2023, 10:51:47 AM

I think, In essence, bitcoin will survive. In terms of value, bitcoin will be influenced by powerful countries with leading positions in the world. One thing is for sure, bitcoin and blockchain will become an indispensable thing in the future. Whether or not countries accept support or not? I guess yes because bitcoin has almost a significant influence on the majority of the economy and its adoption/acceptance. Bitcoin is creating new ways to interact with fiat.

Governments have realized they cannot stop bitcoin and instead they have opted to try to corrupt it, and we are already seeing the first attempts of this on the form of CBDCs, governments argue their coins are even better as they are backed by them, but for anyone that has taken the time to read more about bitcoin they should know that is precisely what we do not want, we have to trust on the governments to do the right thing and not go back on their word and change how those coins will work, something that we know will happen as this has always been the case when it comes to the governments and their promises.

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I think, In essence, bitcoin will survive. In terms of value, bitcoin will be influenced by powerful countries with leading positions in the world. One thing is for sure, bitcoin and blockchain will become an indispensable thing in the future. Whether or not countries accept support or not? I guess yes because bitcoin has almost a significant influence on the majority of the economy and its adoption/acceptance. Bitcoin is creating new ways to interact with fiat.

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Quote from: peter0425 on March 02, 2023, 10:18:03 PM

Quote from: Charmekkd on February 25, 2023, 09:13:07 PM

bitcoin is not specifically for a particular country but bitcoin is made for people who are interested in investing in it, so in my opinion bitcoin will not fall because it is not controlled by the state but by enthusiasts, so in my opinion bitcoin for the future certain be bright.

not just investing but in using this also, we cannot deny that in the past years bitcoin become popular because of people using this for their payments online and even in gambling online.

so i think this is not only for Powerful nation or not even in lowest nations instead this is for the world to use and to progress.

Bitcoin is for those individual who have no access to banks this has been the goal since then so without a powerful nations I believe we can still be good but of course as we aim for mass adoption we are hoping that every country will start to accept Bitcoin, this might look too impossible but I believe it will happen soon. Bitcoin serve its purpose, other countries sees the opportunity to ride the trend and make money as well while some are still hesitant, we are still in the process of giving out more information about Bitcoin and I think this may take more time.

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Humm, bitcoin is decentralized by nature. it is not exclusive to any country in the world. Not only the US, China, Russia, Africa… The free market will decide the next value of bitcoin. I think basically countries with strong economies have an impact on bitcoin adoption but not survival. Bitcoin will last as long as the internet exists. Lol, the fact bitcoin exists is something that symbolizes and represents something both technologically and liberally that is what the future economy and people both aspire to be.

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Bitcoin will survive even though many countries do not accept bitcoin. the meaning of decentralization itself is not controlled by anyone. So, even when the most powerful nations reject bitcoin, it will survive. however, it may still have an effect on the bitcoin price.
From the question you gave, if we look at the current situation, many people are adapting to bitcoin. they started to learn to accept it, as well as accept bitcoins for their business. so, i think the future of bitcoin is going to be very good.
Countries or people do not have complete control over the price of bitcoin. they might be able to make the price fall, but I don't think it will take long, because bitcoin price movements occur because of the needs and demands that exist in the community.

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Quote from: Charmekkd on February 25, 2023, 09:13:07 PM

bitcoin is not specifically for a particular country but bitcoin is made for people who are interested in investing in it, so in my opinion bitcoin will not fall because it is not controlled by the state but by enthusiasts, so in my opinion bitcoin for the future certain be bright.

not just investing but in using this also, we cannot deny that in the past years bitcoin become popular because of people using this for their payments online and even in gambling online.

so i think this is not only for Powerful nation or not even in lowest nations instead this is for the world to use and to progress.

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