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Topic: What is the perfect hedge for our bitcoins? - page 3. (Read 4975 times)

legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
Ethereum has a bit of static inflation, which is good for long term, but bad for short term, i'd pick an Asset inside of ethereum which serves as a good revenue generating DApp and hold that. I'd also hold some bitshares.
legendary
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Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
None of the above. If BTC goes tits up then I'll wait for a self developing coin run by a bot so it's immune to politics, tribalism, greed and corruption.
hero member
Activity: 491
Merit: 500
Nxt get's my vote as well, most innovative tech coin out there right now.
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
Nxt is the most successful one and it has brought so much innovations in the crypto world that it is a question of time to see that reflection in the price.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Move On !!!!!!
NXT would be my pick. These guys deserve a chance for all the innovation and hard work.

Also the old Nothing at Stake claims that are based on maybe 2 papers are just pure FUD and proven wrong! No worries here!
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
Bitshares has pegged fiat currencies, even has gold, silver and nasdaq composite indices:

http://www.bitsharesblocks.com/assets/market

nuBits is also pegged to USD.

Well, that's true. We will see (hopefully not) how these coins are doing during a bitcoin collapse Smiley. But I guess a general distrust towards cryptoes will have some effect even on the most stable coins. Actually I'm really curious.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1007
1. There are no crypto what would be "pegged" to some real life stuff what have some real importance. Without such independent economy practically everything pegged to bitcoin.

Bitshares has pegged fiat currencies, even has gold, silver and nasdaq composite indices:

http://www.bitsharesblocks.com/assets/market

nuBits is also pegged to USD.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
The dollar has been strong and your argument hold some water however by being out of crypto totally you risk missing out on possible exponential growth when the crypto bear market is finally over.  If BTC starts rocketing upwards again the better ALTS will do so as well and likely gain significantly against BTC.  OTOH if the bear market is still in tact you could make significant gains in crypto terms by being in fiat.

Its been such a prolonged bear market and given the market behavior of the last few months I think we are going up from here.  And if that blocksize issue is resolved we could CCMF really fast.

That's why I said "At the bottom with USD I can buy back shitloads of all sorts of coins..."
I think there are two "problems" with crypto:
1. There are no crypto what would be "pegged" to some real life stuff what have some real importance. Without such independent economy practically everything pegged to bitcoin.
2. A very large percent of the people in crypto aren't here for tecnology or for some libertarian dreams, maybe for freedom from the banks, but strictly for financial gains, and their thinking is "pegged" to fiat.

Because of 1. if bitcoin goes down everything will go down (no exception) and because of 2. a lot of people going to panic sell as fast as they can therefore causing an even bigger trouble.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
If it's about hedging then I also vote for fiat (namely USD). A BTC collapse most likely will drag down all cryptoes to rock bottom. So USD is far from perfect (or even from good), but USD is still the most stable alternative. One more thing. At the bottom with USD I can buy back shitloads of all sorts of coins...

Damn! I never thought that I'll pump USD, but here we go Cheesy. I hope the core devs, Hearn and Gavin will rot in hell for this.

The dollar has been strong and your argument hold some water however by being out of crypto totally you risk missing out on possible exponential growth when the crypto bear market is finally over.  If BTC starts rocketing upwards again the better ALTS will do so as well and likely gain significantly against BTC.  OTOH if the bear market is still in tact you could make significant gains in crypto terms by being in fiat.

Its been such a prolonged bear market and given the market behavior of the last few months I think we are going up from here.  And if that blocksize issue is resolved we could CCMF really fast.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
If it's about hedging then I also vote for fiat (namely USD). A BTC collapse most likely will drag down all cryptoes to rock bottom. So USD is far from perfect (or even from good), but USD is still the most stable alternative. One more thing. At the bottom with USD I can buy back shitloads of all sorts of coins...

Damn! I never thought that I'll pump USD, but here we go Cheesy. I hope the core devs, Hearn and Gavin will rot in hell for this.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
proof of importance is the biggest bullshit scam ever invented. ¨

PoI is one of the most complicated consensus mechanisms in crypto created by real published academics.  Stellar also has real academics working on their consensus mechanism, but it works in a completely different way so it is hard to compare.  



For an in depth explanation you can read the technical report in chapter 7.  http://nem.io/NEM_techRef.pdf
sr. member
Activity: 302
Merit: 250
Never before 11 P.M.
Fiat is the safest hedge if you're scared of Bitcoin.

Use it to buy some land.  Problem solved.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1085
Degenerate Crypto Gambler
I like NXT and still hodl a nice bag but the price is going south only. Why should I buy assets with NXT when I know my assets are less worth in some weeks because of the NXT permdumps?

Unfortunately all altcoins failed in creating a liquid and healthy altcoin/fiat market. I guess if BTC dies, all altcoins will die with it.

Best way to hedge is probably holding Fiat and wait for the next BTC flash crash


legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1090
=== NODE IS OK! ==
proof of importance is the biggest bullshit scam ever invented. ¨
also, the Poelstra PoS criticism is deranged
hero member
Activity: 905
Merit: 1001
NXT is my choice! just because you have to own NXT to use the platform features
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
mining is so 2012-2013
NEM has a lot of really interesting development and isn't plagued by much of the problems you listed above except low market cap and low volume as it is still a young platform.

Features
- NEM is built 100% from scratch (not a fork of any existing project)
- NEM is built with test-driven development
- NEM uses innovative Proof-of-Importance algorithm: first reputation based blockchain algorythm
- NEM improves different features of POW and POS coins, being more efficient and environmentally friendly
- NEM one minute average block times
- NEM is the first crypto with delegated harvesting
- NEM is the first with localized spam protection
- NEM is the first with Eigentrust++ peer reputation management
- NEM is the first editable m-of-n multisig with blockchain based alerts
- NEM offers encrypted, unencrypted and hex messaging
- NEM is easy to install with a one click installer
- NEM zero inflation (fixed supply, all 9 billion coins released at launch).
- NEM relatively large egalitarian distribution
- NEM will offer a mobile wallet for both iOS and Android (coming soon)








sr. member
Activity: 251
Merit: 250
The succes of a platform like NXT does not depend on the value of its tokens, the 'coins'.

It's silly to compare coins to platforms.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1090
=== NODE IS OK! ==
hedge? what do you mean? if you mean USD, you should buy nubits, tether
legendary
Activity: 1205
Merit: 1000
I think Nxt is really a big for the longterm future. A lot of great updates are added all the time. The most innovative crypto around. Check nxtforum.org to learn about the features which will be implemented in version 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8. Really exciting times. The rest in crypto is kind of boring.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud
I think this is nothing but another Monero fanboy post cluttering up this forum. 

When are you girls going to give up?  Stop kicking the dead horse.

Dead horse is testing DB and has a game* releasing next week. Your move, hater.   Smiley



*A cyber economy with VR storefronts and property would be a more precise description.
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