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Topic: What is the purpose of altcoins and why there is so many of them? (Read 1932 times)

legendary
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I sold EarthCoin yesterday with a 1000% gain from 2 years ago  Grin
-The coin was dead for the whole time-

To answer the question: Getting bitcoin is more expensive than creating (and consequently getting) an altcoin
Economics of supply and demand
Since these are self-propelling game theory incentivized mechanisms, some of them will exist longer than any of us

Tech is usually not a scam, but the hype around them always is
full member
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Hello

The vast majority of Altcoins are scams.

It is really the founders of the Altcoin that are making money and possibly the first round of investors. Many founders are really clever and practice a strategy where there is major marketing and pump and dump. Once they do make their profit they simply move on. So it is a high risk high reward thing for them to do. They are actually PONZI schemes in their basic structure, so it is best for people to only invest in coins that have multiple backers and where major investment is going in to the infrastructure.
 
Cheers
sr. member
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If you think about all the hype you hear from industry and the financial sector about blockchains, you can understand why there's a powerful need for altcoins.  Whether it's a truly separate blockchain, or one that's somehow linked to the bitcoin blockchain, there is so much room for crypto-currencies to flourish.  And they can and will exist.

Altcoins allow experimentation, but more importantly, they allow attempts to solve problems that bitcoin (the currency) can't (and shouldn't) address.
Ah, that's kind good from an altcoin, honestly altcoins can do anything that bitcoin cant do.. For somehow, altcoins is a good part of cryto currency
newbie
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If you think about all the hype you hear from industry and the financial sector about blockchains, you can understand why there's a powerful need for altcoins.  Whether it's a truly separate blockchain, or one that's somehow linked to the bitcoin blockchain, there is so much room for crypto-currencies to flourish.  And they can and will exist.

Altcoins allow experimentation, but more importantly, they allow attempts to solve problems that bitcoin (the currency) can't (and shouldn't) address.
member
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"experiment with the different technological and economic factors" ?

horse before the wagon ?

long ago it was apparent a clone would not suffice *anymore (to get some adoption from us)
there for a gimmick was needed.. first it became "services" value added tacked on 3rd party stuff.
from there it blossomed with various other gimmicks.
Specialized coins took off.. Like Country Coins or Anon coins or Marijuana Coins
The the save the whales coins came along.

The real genuine experiments that have come out are rare.
Prime coin XPM for example or maybe Quark were sincere attempts at things.
Coins like HYP or CENT and most others are simply masked scammy faggotry.
The dev's are well aware what a high stake coin will end up like down the road for example.

And actions speak louder than words.

A lot of these experiments can be applied to existing coins or simply run on TestNet
there is no requirement to put them on exchanges all the time, parting naive users of their Bitcoin.

ALL of them end the same way.. pumped and dumped and dead.
look around..

what Spoetnik said!
sr. member
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I mean we have bitcoin. Why there is some many alt coins in this business and what is the purpose of this?

purpose for alt coins = get rich quick scam

the reason is easy to do and easy to get away with no scratch from anything
Agreed, it is the easy way to getting much money from other people.. As you can see how many Dev that end up with being a scammer..
sr. member
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It just some dirty trick to gets some money from newbies I see.. They made a coin then end up with being a scammer..
full member
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In my opinion, other coins are created hoping to match bitcoin.
legendary
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I mean we have bitcoin. Why there is some many alt coins in this business and what is the purpose of this?

purpose for alt coins = get rich quick scam

the reason is easy to do and easy to get away with no scratch from anything
hero member
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Most of the leading "altcoins" are not really even trying to be "coins" per se.

They are blockchain-based businesses exploring an exciting new blue ocean for entrepreneurs.

How many businesses do you see on the NASDAQ?

Are any of them claiming that they are the only business that needs to exist?

May a thousand innovative business models bloom!

Smiley
sr. member
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think of altcoins as a childs sandbox to test out experimental features and mess things up so you don't do it on BTC. altcoins is were innovation happens along with a bunch of bagholders trying to pump a coin.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
"experiment with the different technological and economic factors" ?

horse before the wagon ?

long ago it was apparent a clone would not suffice *anymore (to get some adoption from us)
there for a gimmick was needed.. first it became "services" value added tacked on 3rd party stuff.
from there it blossomed with various other gimmicks.
Specialized coins took off.. Like Country Coins or Anon coins or Marijuana Coins
The the save the whales coins came along.

The real genuine experiments that have come out are rare.
Prime coin XPM for example or maybe Quark were sincere attempts at things.
Coins like HYP or CENT and most others are simply masked scammy faggotry.
The dev's are well aware what a high stake coin will end up like down the road for example.

And actions speak louder than words.

A lot of these experiments can be applied to existing coins or simply run on TestNet
there is no requirement to put them on exchanges all the time, parting naive users of their Bitcoin.

ALL of them end the same way.. pumped and dumped and dead.
look around..
hero member
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Gems:Crypto
There are many great points posted in this thread about why altcoins exist.

Altcoins create opportunities to experiment with the different technological and economic factors that can affect how a digital token functions.

There are many aspects of cryptocurrency that are being discovered and explored during this time and altcoins are a critical part of it.
sr. member
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I believe there are certain features which can't be grafted onto Bitcoin (for various reasons ranging from technical to vested inertia). I also believe some of the features are crucial for mass adoption.

And thus I believe the ultimate purpose (or challenge) is to create an altcoin that challenges and surpasses Bitcoin in adoption.

I believe the altcoin that is doing this will be obvious to everyone, and you won't even need to ask this question.

Since it is not yet apparent, I argue no such altcoin yet exists.

As for existing altcoin work, some of it has been experimentation that has advanced some of the technologies that a cryptographic coin needs, e.g. Cryptonote's one-time ring signatures. But so far, most of the altcoins have been merely pump and dump schemes, and/or investment alternatives to Bitcoin's volatility and changing mining demographics (e.g. Litecoin), and the myriad of factors in this dynamic is more complex than I can capture/describe in one sentence.

It is a chaotic free market. Who would want it any other way  Huh Prefer totalitarianism  Huh

This question reminds me of the guy who asked why do we need so many programming languages and when we will stop inventing more of them. And the venerable genius Eric S. Raymond replied (paraphrased), "I don't have a good answer for that, we will continue creating new programming languages for as long as there are programmers" (or something like that).

Edit: here is the link to the video where I heard him say that:

http://jobtipsforgeeks.com/2012/05/17/lessons-from-a-jug-talk-with-eric-esr-raymond/
legendary
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Some altcoins are designed to focus on a specific community or need, such as ArtByte, which supports artists of all kinds.

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Announce Thread: ArtByte Announce Thread
Website: ArtByte.me

ArtByte (ABY) is traded on Poloniex and Bittrex
legendary
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My mule don't like people laughing
Its always about making money, but isn't everything about that?

Some new crypto is actually created to further the technology along. Bitcoin is great but its 2009 tech, we need to keep evolving so we keep making new altcoins.

The few legitimate "2.0" coins out there are - Bitshares, Ripple, Ethereum, Counterparty, Maidsafe, Next, Stellar, Mastercoin, eMune. I know I missed some so you need to do more research.

You'll find these projects at different stages of development. None of which have caught on and gone mainstream yet but neither has bitcoin. Will any of them? I hope so since I hold some of them.

Then you have the anonymous coins. - Dash, Monero, Aeon, ShadowCash, and a few others. These attempt to hide transactions in the blockchain. They work and will work better with more adoption. I hold some of these as well.

Hi-PoS coins (High Interest Proof of Stake) these are forks of Peercoin where holding coins generates interest. I actually like these, just with the recent bitcoin rise they seem to have tanked.. Some are - Bottlecaps, Hobonickels, Tek, Netcoin, etc.. Not sustainable but fun to stake and trade.

We also have the bitcoin forks. Which is most of the coins.. These are copies of the bitcoin core where the developers changed the parameters of the coin. Generally these are total amount, emission, block time and of course premine.. A ten minute job for someone that has done it before. Most of these are made to enrich the developer and nothing more. Some have lasted over the years and are traded at low volume. I would stay away from these.



legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Most of the altcoins are created to suck bitcoin out of the market and into the hands of the 'dev' and pump groups.
They are based on hype and price will be crash badly in a few months.

Any & All coins are targeted by pump groups whether that was the dev's intention or not.
You think so called pump groups only stick to specific coins ?
They jump to ANY coin they can see has some users and screw it leaving it a mess.
If a coin has users it gets raped.

So they can claim they have good intentions but it doesn't matter.
The end game is the same.
Broke investors.

Ideology and Reality are two different things here guys..
hero member
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Different functionality. Unlike what a lot of people think, Bitcoin is not the panacea to solve all problems. There are always trade-offs to adding new functionality and utility to a system. In product design this is called 'Flexibility trade-offs' and 'Feature Creep'.

So when people ask us why we made IOTA, the answer is simply that the features needed for IoT payments (e.g. highly scalable, efficient, nano/micro-transactions, lightweight hardware) does not exist in Bitcoin or any other coin for that matter.

legendary
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Most of the altcoins are created to suck bitcoin out of the market and into the hands of the 'dev' and pump groups.
They are based on hype and price will be crash badly in a few months.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
Yeah.  And we're the test subjects.  And they'll take your money while they're at it.  Grin

Sad but true.. ALL ARE created for scam schemes alone..

There i corrected that for you..
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