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EUR is currently the strongest (BIG) currency.

All the other Central banks are printing there currency like "mad cows" atm.
Central bank of Europe isnt joining in this ponzi scheme created by all other central Banks.

However Super Mario may eventually start printing too, he was trying to show his balls lately.

Well, the Euro runs an actual inflation (not the fake government stats) anywhere between 3% and 5%, well beyond their 2% target, alongside a 0.25% central bank interest rate.
So in a sense, it shares exactly the same fate like the USD and similar currencies.

As the ECB usually goes into offensive mode near ~1.35$/Euro and into overdrive printing at about 1.37$/Euro, they just debase enough to keep pace with all the other main suicidal FIAT currencies.

All it takes for the Euro to nosedive would be some of the bigger PIIGS run into inabilities to pay their debt, which is as certain as the amen in a church. So far, Super Mario's "extend & pretend" policy of empty words & promises worked more or less. Still, nothing but kicking the can down the road. And we're not even talking all the Euro-denominated unfunded liabilities...
As soon as some real stress hits the Euro, one nation will leave it, many will soon follow.

Seeing Germany at the "core of stability" in the Euro area (collateral lender and backstop of last resort), note that Deutsche Bank is levered like 1:65 already and is one of the most dangerous (failprone) banks on the planet. Our german insurers already ran into serious trouble due to ZIRP and are (as we speak) cutting back on their customer payouts for the very first time in many decades. Similar financial institutions are likely to follow, including pension funds.

Nothing is fixed in Europe, we're just a few years further back on the timeline as more troubled nations. But we're on exactly the same track. Most older Germans view the Euro as the political Monopoly paper it really is, plus they remember the Deutsche Mark (and miss it) too well. Most people of Europe never wanted the Euro, it was put in place by the bankers using their unelected talking heads in Brussels.

In short : it cannot survive.

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The way I see it, most of the FIAT planet had its first encounter with the debt-black-hole in 2008. The only reason TPTB still exist and operate were their central banks going into overdrive on all engines to avoid crossing the event horizon.
However, this merely brought us into an elliptic orbit around that black hole and it won't let go. Right now (as we speak), after a period of seemingly calm flight, we're already headed right back into it, possibly making the next pass already this year. And with every iteration, the stress on the whole corrupt, debt-overloaded system will increase, until it simply breaks apart in a great, colorful show of cascading structural failures.
It's mathematically unavoidable if all the nations stay their course - being owned by their central banks, that's what they're programmed to do, keeping the sheeple calm right until impact.

Since years, those who were able to count 1+1 and had enough braincells and ability to prepare, were and are actively doing so.
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Hey,

This new book might be an interesting read: http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21598651-new-book-examines-worlds-love-hate-relationship-dollar-once-and

Author makes the case that there is really no alternative to the US dollar just yet (of course he doesn't discuss virtual currencies  Wink)

Yunus
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USD as it is widely spread and I think there is no country that doesn't accept USD.
Also I think that UK pounds are less volatile so it's strong fiat currency
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EUR is currently the strongest (BIG) currency.

All the other Central banks are printing there currency like "mad cows" atm.
Central bank of Europe isnt joining in this ponzi scheme created by all other central Banks.

However Super Mario may eventually start printing too, he was trying to show his balls lately.
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It seems the USD buys less and less each day, I wonder how other currencies are going compaired to USD.

Purchasing power after inflation has been decreasing for quite some time
Federal Reserve and Fractional Reserves are not very helpful either
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Yuan

PBOC is inflating it massively.  Declining even against USD now.

Any currency managed by a central bank tends to zero.  All the currencies are now managed by central banks.  They will all go to zero.  
If you want to save via currency markets, save by capitalizing a swap with positive carry.

Why would you just not buy gold (or something else precious) with it? If you exchange it for a currency you would get a taxable cap gain. Purchasing gold would not trigger a cap gain -- at least not a traceable one.

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If you look at the strongest currencies, they're the one from the oil rich middle eastern countries:
http://www.foxnews24x7.com/2013/04/10-most-expensive-currency-in-world.html



This is probably true but given the fact that technology is always improving soon gas powered cars will become a thing of the past and when that happens those oil rich countries are going to be poor as dirt with absolutely nothing of value to export.

Pretty much any way you slice it fiat paper money backed by nothing is not going to last forever.
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If you look at the strongest currencies, they're the one from the oil rich middle eastern countries:
http://www.foxnews24x7.com/2013/04/10-most-expensive-currency-in-world.html

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I don't think the USD will go away... It'll simply hyperinflate at some point. All it takes is other nations leaving the agreed script & dump US debt on the market, the FED can only absorb so much within a timeframe; plus, the US dollar circle jerk would then be 100% complete and the farce obvious to anyone, leading to further deteriorating trust in it.
Before that point is reached, as I stated above, the US has detailled plans to "contain" the issue of unsatisfied citizens affected by it.
Against non-compiling nations, the US military or CIA always gave some "motivation" (think Iraq, which started selling oil for Euros instead of the US Dollar; or Lybia, which planned to launch an african union currency using a gold-backed Dinar. Where he can afford it, Uncle Sam really acts pissy in those cases and puts a quick stop to that.)

One way or another, the US finds a place to export their inflation to. The people at the Federal Reserve and US Treasury must really cheer economic collapses, natural disasters and foreign wars (whether they're provoked by or involving the US or not). Because the IMF or World Bank will always turn up at the wreckage, with a loan offer that nobody can refuse. Banksters is about right.
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CHF

without pegging it to the EUR at 0.83 CHF/EUR (which led to a huge real estate bubble), it would be 2 CHF/EUR or more and certainly over 2 CHF/USD
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But if the USD goes away then what will the government replace it with?
You ask this on a Bitcoin forum?

I don't see the government replacing fiat with Bitcoin so whats with that smart ass remark?  Angry

Perhaps I assume too much.  I don't see the government replacing fiat with Bitcoin either.  I see the market replacing fiat with Bitcoin.
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But if the USD goes away then what will the government replace it with? Maybe another fiat currency backed by the gold reserves? Or maybe a fiat currency backed by a crypto algorythm like bitcoin?

Or maybe better yet we adopt the venus project mindset and switch to a resource based economy with no money at all.

I don't think the USD will go away... It'll simply hyperinflate at some point. All it takes is other nations leaving the agreed script & dump US debt on the market, the FED can only absorb so much within a timeframe; plus, the US dollar circle jerk would then be 100% complete and the farce obvious to anyone, leading to further deteriorating trust in it.
Before that point is reached, as I stated above, the US has detailled plans to "contain" the issue of unsatisfied citizens affected by it.
Against non-compiling nations, the US military or CIA always gave some "motivation" (think Iraq, which started selling oil for Euros instead of the US Dollar; or Lybia, which planned to launch an african union currency using a gold-backed Dinar. Where he can afford it, Uncle Sam really acts pissy in those cases and puts a quick stop to that.)

After all, I can hardly imagine the US accepting a Chinese yuan or international Renmimbi as domestic currency, although it (and others) will likely be used on the black markets.
Think Zimbabwe, Belarus or Venezuela, these are good and recent/current examples of how things can work out in the endgame.

But China is the only country getting away with bypassing the US Dollar (lost count, they got like 20+ nations which agreed trading using their local currencies in favor of the US Dollar, the chinese economic dominance, military and nuclear arsenal were the key factors that allowed them doing that).
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But if the USD goes away then what will the government replace it with?
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You ask this on a Bitcoin forum?

I don't see the government replacing fiat with Bitcoin so whats with that smart ass remark?  Angry

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But if the USD goes away then what will the government replace it with?
You ask this on a Bitcoin forum?

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Maybe another fiat currency backed by the gold reserves?
If the USD fails, it is probably a failure for the global fiat project.  It seems likely to spell a practical end to sovereign fiat currency.  After the Weimar explosion, Marks were backed by gold, out of political necessity.  No one would use fiat again without exchangability. It seems very unlikely there would be a fractional gold currency after a fiat failure.  It also seems unlikely to be helpful to the US economy to issue a full-reserve paper currency, given the volume of offshore claims.  And as for hard currency, what gold?  The gold leased out through JPM?  The German gold we won't return?  The gold we sold to China?

A dollar hyperinflation will end in either a centralized or a decentralized global crypto currency system.  There is a decentralized one in place which works, albeit it needs work to scale up. 


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I think that GBP is the strongest as well as USD!
Actually it's YE$, the three most powerful fiat in the world but not is seems like GBP is less volatile and have a real power
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There's not much of a difference between the euro and usd. They fluctuate in rather predictable patterns against each other (1.2 to 1.5 range for years now).
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$AUD!

That's a myth, even when AUD was at its peak in the last 4 years or so the cost of living was skyrocketing at a hyper rate, inflation was rampant in Australia yet the Analysts and experts kept claiming how strong the AUD is, ignoring the fact purchasing power of AUD is very poor.

Just because a currency may appear strong against other currencies doesn't mean its a strong and stable one.

True measure of a stable currency imo is its purchasing power and v low inflation rate.

What good does it do for a person if his local currency goes up in value against other currencies but food and living prices go up every week. That scenario only benefits forex speculators
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Yeah it's definitely not the USD

Actually the strongest fiat currency is indeed the US dollar, the de facto reserve currency of the world.  If it was not the strongest, it would buy a lot less than it does now.  This is well known to economists.

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Might just be the Euro for the next few years... Wink
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