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What is the technical reason why bitcoin transactions can't scale?
Because they cannot be joined. There are many transactions like that: Alice -> Bob -> Charlie -> Daniel. That could be replaced with Alice -> Daniel transaction.

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why we are not seeing many changes to bitcoin
Because every big change have to be done in a soft fork way, discussed and developed for months, and later activated by miners signalling their readiness for that change.

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why the 10min transaction times is something which "must" occur in order to maintain security
Because the network is more decentralized if this time is not too short. If you have shorter block time, then when you hit some block, you can build instantly on top of it. The shorter that time, the more blocks in advance you can create, turning lottery-based mining into race-based mining when the more power you have, the more boost you get, which is unfair.

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With the internet, connection speeds increased from 56kbps dialup to adsl to cable to adsl2 to now 500mbps. We could see progress being made and changes to the technology.
The biggest bottleneck is not downloading time, you can download all blocks quite quickly. The verification is what takes the most of the time. If you take some altcoins, especially CPU-based with slow and complicated mining algorithms on purpose, you can clearly see that. But in Bitcoin, ECDSA verification also takes a lot of time. And when it comes to processing speed, we stopped at around 8 GHz and going faster is very hard.
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Farewell, Leo
It's not the infeasibility, but the practicality I'd rather say. Every altcoin that tried to solve the scaling problem by increasing the block size brought others afterwards. And that's obvious; they're two opposite terms.

  • The scaling issue requires increasing the size of the chain.
  • The decentralization occurs when it's not increasing.

Generally, peer-to-peer networks are by their nature inefficient compared with the centralized ones. The whole world can't fit in a chain and retain its decentralization. One of them has to go. The lightning network is indeed a very practical solution. Each user keeps their own balance, just like how it should be at first.

Can someone help me understand why we are not seeing many changes to bitcoin and why the 10min transaction times is something which "must" occur in order to maintain security.
The 10 minute interval isn't something that brings security. Not directly, at least. The only reason I can think of is the orphaned blocks.
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What is the technical reason why bitcoin transactions can't scale?
There has been improvement with the adoption of Segwit and Taproot in which the transaction fees are reduced up to 50% while the Taproot transactions will be more efficient with also 2.5x faster block validation and 30% to 75% savings on multisig.

Is it technically infeasible to have a secure network while at the same time having faster transactions, without second layer solutions?
No, but the Bitcoin community are always looking for more way to improve scaling. Lightning network is still part of the process because it will actually help which can reduced on-chain transactions if adopted by people.

Can someone help me understand why we are not seeing many changes to bitcoin and why the 10min transaction times is something which "must" occur in order to maintain security.
Not necessarily 10 minutes, it is 10 minutes on average, it can take 1 minute, it can take 2 minutes, it can even take 30 minutes.
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What is the technical reason why bitcoin transactions can't scale?

Is it technically infeasible to have a secure network while at the same time having faster transactions, without second layer solutions?

With the internet, connection speeds increased from 56kbps dialup to adsl to cable to adsl2 to now 500mbps. We could see progress being made and changes to the technology.

Can someone help me understand why we are not seeing many changes to bitcoin and why the 10min transaction times is something which "must" occur in order to maintain security.
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