Topic: What is the USA influence in Turkish events? - page 2. (Read 2002 times)

How Much US citizens "disappear" in Turkey?

Sadly I can't refute you under Obama and the ZOG control its impossible to know... The narrative at all costs...

Really?
Some of them are just in Refrigerator, i think.

they better not think touching anyone wearing the American flag... I understand that Obama may not even do anything in such a suicidal event... At least with the trump admin it would be clear as water.


Please don't involve the pentagon... However it would be even if I don't believe the typical level of systemic incompetency expressed by the educated fools of the cia and the even more incompetent workers of the state dept...

Now about your comment on ZOG media... They have to lay ground for either their chosenites project of isreal taking over the world or more certainly their lack of faith in the US Constitution and Bills of rights... They whoreship Isreal and the United Nations...

The US Constitution and bills of rights only... kerry seems really incompetent... I will not insult Lavrov or the flower of the East in comparing them to such a mediocre individual... Keep biking dude... It's enough for you. Deeply I think it's because Obama isn't the type of guy to like to be with people smarter and more competent than him... Again Trump has no problem with that... Victory above all else... Being in a team as the weakest link means that one the team is great, secondly that making it is in itself a proof of competency and ultimately a great opportunity to improve and learn!

And to comeback to the ZOG media... How is Brianna going? Seems that the hasbara has issued directives... They are useful to watch to understand what they try to achieve... Understanding the ennemedia, to the point of being able to anticipate them render them weaker as a lamb.

I don't know man this seems really fishy or unorganised. Like most soldiers didn't shoot, just surrendered and the angry mob beat them, killed some of them. People are in like celebrating like they're the guardians of democracy and stuff (pro government people and Islamists) one thing is for sure, this will help Erdoğan getting more powers and the presidency system.

The CIA and Pentagon FAIL is so big, that no one believe.

CIA put Turkey on the same level as Egypt or Lybia.


They have no Idea about Turkey, and no one from them talk turkish language.
The ugly ZOG Media.

  Okay.  Now, Russian media is saying that the coup attempt was caused by Erdogan's support of Islamist groups in Turkey and that the army felt that Erdogan wasn't putting enough pressure on IS.  So it seems like he is still close to the movement in this case.
 

I didn't say that Gülen was behind the coup, I just said what the government officials claimed. Like I said everything looks fishy about what happened these days.

 The proof of your first quote is in every American publication I pick up.  The Turkish courts indicted Gulen in October last year for crimes against the state; specifically for attempting to overthrow the government. They have been demanding his extradition since that time.

 As for your second, a court would accept this as proof of events in 1993 but not proof of events yesterday.  It would be inadmissible as evidence of the coup attempt.

Proof of what? The relations between Gülen Movement and the Turkish Government have been very bad for the last few years. The government claims this was their job, Erdoğan said that they demand him from the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_government_%E2%80%93_G%C3%BClen_Movement_conflict


Because they're Islamists as well, having their own school courses which are over religious and stuff.

Erdoğan was very close with the Gülen Movement before like I said but now they're enemies, I wouldn't consider him a member of this movement.

 Excellent!
  Why do you consider them a cult?
Why do you not consider Erdogan as a member of this cult given the close, symbiotic relationship Gulen and Erdogan shared as they proffered democracy to the Turks and rose to power?
  

Please, put the proof of such demand.


This is how the proofs are produced.
The court accept such videos.
And For the Public opinion such "proofs" are a 100% true.

 I watched a video from 1993?  To what end?  This is 2016.
As I stated earlier,  as a peon, I can only wait on events to be presented to me.  I have no investigative powers in any country.  Perhaps we will be able to find out what truly happened in Turkey last week in 2039 when it becomes available on YouTube?  Until then my only power is speculation.  Maybe you have some inside information?

Well the government demans US to give Fethullah Gülen to Turkey but US denies. Fethullah Gülen's organisation is like a cult, government was very close with them, doing all sorts of stuff with them but they became enemies with Erdoğan later than.

Turkish here, feel free to ask me any questions.

The shit is deep.

Flee... And fast to never return or be silent.

 Yes, it was unclear as your English sentences are poorly constructed. 
 I have just read in an American publication that Ahmet Nesin - a Turkish journalist - has come to the same conclusion as me.  I would suspect that he, like most journalists in Turkey with views that are not in line with the state, will be jailed. (yet again)
 I imagine the US news is more likely to be accurate than anything coming from Turkey.

For the public opinion You will have some video depicting Turkish Militaries talking on camera obout CIA Instructions.
To produce such videos as proof the Win Side need some Time.

What is unclear?

Something similar to this Lyashko telling about taking blow jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX23QDFS-aI


Do You wait on other public reaction?

A quote for the alleged mastermind:

Gulen sharply rejected any responsibility: “As someone who suffered under multiple military coups during the past five decades, it is especially insulting to be accused of having any link to such an attempt. I categorically deny such accusations.”