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Topic: What is the value of Bitcoin? What is bitcoin secured by? - page 2. (Read 363 times)

legendary
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
Not the same. The price of bitcoin is indeed determined by what people are willing to pay for it when they are trading (not the best kind of demand and supply, but still). Fiat price is determined by the regulatory authority that sets the price and makes sure that it's under control regardless to what's going on. As for bitcoin purchasing power - unfortunately, I don't think it's appropriate to talk about it for now. There aren't many places where one can pay with btc. And are there are places that determine the prices not by converting the fiat price into bitcoin one's? It's too dependent and too unstable for now.
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Almost all top altcoins or bitcoin that has a high volume in the market are all being controlled by the whale investors, just like what is happened into XRP a couple of weeks past, same goes with Bitcoin as well. There are lot manipulators in the market, and this things can't be gone anyway. I think it is already a part of their strategy anyway.
And you believe this is different with stocks? They are controlled by a small group of board member who together are the majority shareholders. This means that even if you were able to gather up all the other public shareholders you wouldn't be able to dictate anything or change company's policies. With Bitcoin you have the advantage because even if whales sell their stocks the technology will still be there. It will lose most of its value but it won't disappear. If the board decides to shut the company down it disappears.
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...So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
I agree. Early on I learned a lot about how little I knew about money. Money really only needs two things. It must be hard or impossible to counterfeit, and it must be seen as valuable. Gold is just a shinny rock and dollars are just fancy paper. It is our common belief that allows us to trade these valueless things for items of real value.   
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.

Almost all top altcoins or bitcoin that has a high volume in the market are all being controlled by the whale investors, just like what is happened into XRP a couple of weeks past, same goes with Bitcoin as well. There are lot manipulators in the market, and this things can't be gone anyway. I think it is already a part of their strategy anyway.
legendary
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars.

Bitcoins price is influenced largely by demand and supply, and demand and supply is influenced by all other factors associated with bitcoins. So basically, when the network is running smoothly people build faith in the technology and are are willing to buy, but when there is a chink in the chain, panic reigns.

And also this is nothing like fiat currencies. There is a delegated sector which supports and regulates the worth of national currencies
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So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.

As is true for everything. The price of absolutely all things is decided by nothing more than supply and demand and a large portion of that is public perception. If everyone suddenly believed that banana's were going to cure all illnesses and provide ever lasting life, the price would increase astronomically, irrespective of if it is true or not. People believe it.
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.

The price of nothing is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Gov is not secured by any tangible assets and we believe 100% in them.

take a balance. Put on one site all BTC arguments. Put in the other any other comparable thing, tell me how it looks?

 
sr. member
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Yeah, like many say here the value of bitcoin is technology, supply and demand and great deal of manipulations. The situation might change somehow in the future but there is nothing we can do now.
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
Yeah, agree with you. But unfortunately the price of bitcoin is formed not only by supply and demand. It also manipulated by whales and big players. There is no pure and fair game in it. Definetely it will grow up in future.

Obviously there is no pure game in the bitcoin trade, the price-determining whale that I believe so far, big traders always swallow small traders by creating erratic volatile market conditions
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The value of bitcoin in its technology and the faith of the crypto community.

Now the whales are selling their cryptocurrency and the market is falling. The ICOs is to blame for this, which deceived investors.
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
Yeah, agree with you. But unfortunately the price of bitcoin is formed not only by supply and demand. It also manipulated by whales and big players. There is no pure and fair game in it. Definetely it will grow up in future.


Perception is one of the most important change effect too. The last hype was learning of what is bitcoin. But now next perceptional hype will implementing blockchain technology to real life.
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
I think the value of bitcoin is to help the baleful people, so therefore their are so many people who used bitcoin because they believe that they are also achieve their goals through that.
legendary
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So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.

Or based on what the public perceives as the value of 1 bitcoin is, not necessarily their trust in it. Let's admit it, there aren't many people left here believing that bitcoin will be successful. In truth, they are just trusting other traders to do the first move and just ride on those waves to get profit, but not necessarily vest their trust on bitcoin in the process. Miners are also trusting the speculators to make some moves in order for their mining ventures to be profitable. The trust goes to the traders ultimately, not the miners and certainly not bitcoin itself.
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
Yeah, agree with you. But unfortunately the price of bitcoin is formed not only by supply and demand. It also manipulated by whales and big players. There is no pure and fair game in it. Definetely it will grow up in future.
newbie
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The price of bitcoin is formed exclusively by supply and demand for it. Bitcoins are not secured by any tangible assets, but the same situation is with any Fiat currencies, rubles or dollars. It is wrong to assume that bitcoin is provided with electricity spent on its mining or the cost of a bitcoin farm. The difficulty of solving the cryptographic problem during mining varies according to the network hashrate used to find the latest 2016 bitcoin blocks. If the number of miners and the electricity consumed fall several times, then the complexity of mining will simply decrease and the process will stabilize again. So the value of bitcoin and its purchasing power lies only in the public's trust in it.
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