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Quote from: wknight on June 06, 2013, 10:01:49 AM

PPLNS is going to split up your payments over a few blocks.

Basically it comes down to this. If your going to mine on a PPLNS pool.. you might as well use p2pool. This way you cant be ripped off by a pool op.

PPS is great also as you know what your getting paid per share. You just need to make sure you keep a eye on the shares you submitted and how many the pool pays.

Yeah that is fair enough mate cheers, though I have been with many other pools and didn't notice this issue, I didn't know if I had caught a trojan or what... But now I think there is defo something more sinister going on... I can't prove it but I know what I experienced and that is enough for me... I mean I sat and watched the blocks come in and no payments being recieved... What more do I need? lol

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Quote from: caish5 on June 06, 2013, 09:57:44 AM

Nah we don't think you're a crazy noob but you've gotta cover all your bases here before you point the accusing stick.

That is fair enough but I would have thought telling you guys I had been at it for 12 and 24 hours should of told you all you need to know lol... So what is your thoughts now knowing that I am now getting what I should be! What do we make of dgcpool.com and wemineltc???

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Quote from: flound1129 on June 06, 2013, 09:57:03 AM

DGC and WDC payout lower than their estimate due to the fast blocks.

This is quite obviously not true as I am with a pool now that is giving me what I should be getting.... I can understand some wiggle room like but not half of what I should be getting... For instance been on this pool what an hour now if that and already it is at 3.58 an hour average, It will still go up more too, oh and I have banked 3.5.. 3.5 x 12 = 42... And this is the first hour!!!! The hour that doesn't really give me what I should be getting! But the other pool after 12 hours only gave me 28... That is not right I don't care what anyone says, if you think it is maybe you are getting ripped too?

Edit: Up to 4.90 and hour average now... That equals 58 odd for a 12 hour period! But I got 28 for longer than that, do you still think that is right yeah? They weren't ripping me off nah? No problem at all right? Hey maybe they don't even know... But something is certainly not right and I knew it!

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PPLNS is going to split up your payments over a few blocks.

Basically it comes down to this. If your going to mine on a PPLNS pool.. you might as well use p2pool. This way you cant be ripped off by a pool op.

PPS is great also as you know what your getting paid per share. You just need to make sure you keep a eye on the shares you submitted and how many the pool pays.

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Nah we don't think you're a crazy noob but you've gotta cover all your bases here before you point the accusing stick.

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DGC and WDC payout lower than their estimate due to the fast blocks.

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Quote from: Thorgrim on June 06, 2013, 09:48:00 AM

I have had similar problems on some pools.

I just switch and don't use them again.

Might be intentional, maybe not but if you aren't getting what you should just don't use em.

Yeah obviously I won't be using them again... At least yuou don't think I am a crazy noob :p Thanks

I mean I suppose it could be down to servers and whatnot but with wemineltc they have various servers and I was using the one for the eu so shouldn't have been a problem... i don't know man, but anyway this new one seems okay so far, fingers crossed...

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I have had similar problems on some pools.

I just switch and don't use them again.

Might be intentional, maybe not but if you aren't getting what you should just don't use em.

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With the new pool I just joined I am already up to 1dgc an hour average, I have only been on it for like 20 mins! There is still more to go on it but the point is pplns does not take that long to kick in when it is a big pool! I didn't just mine for 2 mins then leave you know... Once was 24 hours (wemineltc) and the over 12 hours for dgcpool.com... Both pools are big enough to have pplns kick in within a couple hours!

Edit: Just check after posting this and now it is saying 1.67 an hour! Do you see??? I already have 1.15dgc banked after only like half an hour! and that is at the start!!! See, I can tell already that THIS pool is not going to be a problem!

Edit2: Right after my edit it is 1.82 an hour and 1.50 banked... I am not some crazy noob that doesn't know what is going on! lmao

Edit: 2.29 an hour and 1.92 banked...

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Quote from: caish5 on June 06, 2013, 09:26:45 AM

I hate that PPLNS is so hard to explain to people.
They usually begin to understand it AFTER they've left your pool and it keeps paying them!

LMAO... Honestly guys I am not thick, I know how all that works, pplns is not a problem, been with many pools that do it and I can tell the difference... I know when something is not right... Even with the blocks that were being found... Say on wemineltc there were a lot of 42 mins and 52 mins when the average should be 15 mins, that is all find but there never seemed to be a good run, ever... Over a whole 24 hour period...

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Quote from: richgene on June 06, 2013, 08:46:11 AM

What are you basing how many coins you should have on WeMineLTC?

Is it based on what you "used to get"?

Difficulty's always going up.

~richgene

Just checked the dgc profit calc and I should be getting 114 coins a day... So 28 for over half a day is far too low... I know there is something up, I can tell... It was the same with wemineltc... Can remember the exact figures now but I ran on that pool for 24 hours.

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Dude please, I have been mining a couple months now I am not a complete noob, I know what pplns is and I have mined on many different pools... I know it takes a little while to kick in but never that long, especially on big pools... I know about varience too... When I was with litebonk sometimes I could go 23 hours with nothing but I always knew it would level out... But the bigger the pool the less varience there should be right? Which is why I switched in the first place... This is defo something else...

Anyway trying out another pool now and I will report back my findings...

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I hate that PPLNS is so hard to explain to people.
They usually begin to understand it AFTER they've left your pool and it keeps paying them!

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Quote from: richgene on June 06, 2013, 08:46:11 AM

What are you basing how many coins you should have on WeMineLTC?

Is it based on what you "used to get"?

Difficulty's always going up.

~richgene

Just checked the dgc profit calc and I should be getting 114 coins a day... So 28 for over half a day is far too low... I know there is something up, I can tell... It was the same with wemineltc... Can remember the exact figures now but I ran on that pool for 24 hours.

read up on pplns

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Quote from: nearmiss on June 06, 2013, 08:53:24 AM

Thats a bit disingenuous to non-p2pool's. Both systems have their place, and people have their preferences. Though no need to turn it into a debate between the two. One bad experience at a pool of either kind does not equate to that type being the wrong choice.

I agree there is a place for both.

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Quote from: richgene on June 06, 2013, 08:46:11 AM

What are you basing how many coins you should have on WeMineLTC?

Is it based on what you "used to get"?

Difficulty's always going up.

~richgene

Just checked the dgc profit calc and I should be getting 114 coins a day... So 28 for over half a day is far too low... I know there is something up, I can tell... It was the same with wemineltc... Can remember the exact figures now but I ran on that pool for 24 hours.

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Quote from: caish5 on June 06, 2013, 08:49:12 AM

Try a P2Pool like mine.
You can verify the fee charged is correct by entering http://caish5.com:8900/fee just modify the address for your P2Pool node of choice.
As far as I can tell there are no other opportunities in P2Pool for pool owners to steal blocks as is possible with other systems.

...Not that I'm saying any particular pool is up to no good just that it is possible.

Okay I will look into that mate, thanks a lot... Just don't get it, this has been going on for the past few days now. Would like to get to the bottom of it, I mean it could be something my end I suppose... I have gone back to litebonk for now to see what happens.

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Quote from: richgene on June 06, 2013, 08:46:11 AM

What are you basing how many coins you should have on WeMineLTC?

Is it based on what you "used to get"?

Difficulty's always going up.

~richgene

Well yes and no... I moved from litebonk just cos I fancied a steadier payout, but I got less with wemineltc, a lot less... The difficulty was the same, I do keep an eye on those kinds of things... Don't know what is up.

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Quote from: caish5 on June 06, 2013, 08:49:12 AM

Try a P2Pool like mine.
You can verify the fee charged is correct by entering http://caish5.com:8900/fee just modify the address for your P2Pool node of choice.
As far as I can tell there are no other opportunities in P2Pool for pool owners to steal blocks as is possible with other systems.

...Not that I'm saying any particular pool is up to no good just that it is possible.

Thats a bit disingenuous to non-p2pool's. Both systems have their place, and people have their preferences. Though no need to turn it into a debate between the two. One bad experience at a pool of either kind does not equate to that type being the wrong choice.

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Try a P2Pool like mine.
You can verify the fee charged is correct by entering http://caish5.com:8900/fee just modify the address for your P2Pool node of choice.
As far as I can tell there are no other opportunities in P2Pool for pool owners to steal blocks as is possible with other systems.

...Not that I'm saying any particular pool is up to no good just that it is possible.

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What are you basing how many coins you should have on WeMineLTC?

Is it based on what you "used to get"?

Difficulty's always going up.

~richgene

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