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legendary
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November 23, 2014, 12:30:14 AM
#22

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



What the second poster said
IF you pay taxes you have all the right to complain about how something is going
Cause well you paid for it in one form or another.
legendary
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November 22, 2014, 05:09:05 PM
#21
Here is a list of countries and their tax rates. Several of which have zero taxes (but what about the roads!?!?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
There's only some small arabian oil countries that have no obvious tax.
All other countries at least have VAT.

Fortunately not all are subject to VAT, otherwise they would not have so many businesses flocking to them.
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November 22, 2014, 11:21:31 AM
#20
Here is a list of countries and their tax rates. Several of which have zero taxes (but what about the roads!?!?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
There's only some small arabian oil countries that have no obvious tax.
All other countries at least have VAT.
legendary
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November 22, 2014, 10:59:34 AM
#19
Why do I like America? Because it is built so that I can change it whenever I start not liking it a little.

Smiley
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November 22, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
#17
its my country
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November 22, 2014, 07:32:51 AM
#16

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



leave is just for losers.
If I don't like my country I'll try to make it into a better place.
legendary
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November 22, 2014, 05:32:24 AM
#15
By the way...

Errant consilia nostra, quia non habent quo derigantur; ignoranti quem portum petat nullus suus ventus est.
Our plans miscarry because they have no aim. When a man does not know what harbour he is making for, no wind is the right wind.
Letter LXXI: On the supreme good, line 3
Alternate translation: If one does not know to which port one is sailing, no wind is favorable.

from Seneca the Younger https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger

So, no matter where you go, if you don't know what to do you'll bring your troubles wherever you will go.
 Smiley
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 09:54:54 PM
#14
It costs a lot of money to get good paper for most countries. Unless you have a few thousand bitcoin most countries won't accept you as a citizen. Even the cheap countries you need a few hundred btc.

If you're capable, they'll never know you're there.   Smiley
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November 21, 2014, 04:19:53 PM
#13
It costs a lot of money to get good paper for most countries. Unless you have a few thousand bitcoin most countries won't accept you as a citizen. Even the cheap countries you need a few hundred btc.
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 03:54:25 PM
#12
I don't want to be an immigrant/2nd class citizen in some other country.

When the SHTF, who wants to be the "guest" foreigner in some other country?
Like the white man in a brown man's land, for example?

(Marshall Islands posted in the above example, LOL - they are coming here! Those islands are toxic nuclear waste sites!)

This notion that going someplace else is overrated - other countries do not treat their
immigrants as well as the US treats theirs.  As an immigrant in some other country, you are considered a 2nd class citizen with
limited rights and privileges, such as not being able to own land, etc.



Some of us would rather pick up our skirts and grab our balls and fight -  instead of running away.
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 02:49:21 PM
#11
My counter argument is that little $1200 milling, drilling machine that makes me a private, unregistered lower receiver for all kinds of guns. I would have called it my "table argument," but I am running it on my counter.

 Grin
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November 21, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
#10
I guess my response would be, "I'll just wait a little longer and hope we can get some change."
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
#9

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



Because I have the right not to. Seems to be the simplest response.
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 12:08:29 PM
#8
If you look at the numbers you'll find that most of it is actually spent on the military than on the things people rant about when it comes to taxes, we have pretty high tax rates in my country and my town is still a barely maintained shit hole, did see some gas work going on recently though which is a relief at least they aren't going to let us all accidentally set the place on fire with gas leaks. If you took about 30% of the military budge of any major country in Afghanistan/Iraq right now the scale of what you could build with it is ridiculous, instead it's pissed away on bombing the shit out of other people and turning them all into terrorists.
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 10:02:16 AM
#7

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



Where can I go?

There are many countries with better governments than the US.

Bahamas, Costa Rica, Turks & Caicos, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Ireland, Marshall Islands...etc.

Here is a list of countries and their tax rates. Several of which have zero taxes (but what about the roads!?!?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

That's the biggest deception of our life: do we really believe that "taxes" pay for roads building/maintenance? I really don't think so.
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November 21, 2014, 08:21:04 AM
#6

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



Where can I go?

There are many countries with better governments than the US.

Bahamas, Costa Rica, Turks & Caicos, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Ireland, Marshall Islands...etc.

Here is a list of countries and their tax rates. Several of which have zero taxes (but what about the roads!?!?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
legendary
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November 21, 2014, 07:33:41 AM
#5

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



Where can I go? The problem with the if you don't like it then leave logic is that the very people who use it are responsible for creating a situation where people can't leave the system as they have eliminated all alternatives, mainly because they know that we would leave if given the option and they'd be left with a failed system.
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November 21, 2014, 07:10:06 AM
#4

If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.



1. where is the grass greener? 2. is it legal to go there?
legendary
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November 20, 2014, 05:36:05 AM
#3
I did that.

I can still not like it, from afar and feel bad for everyone still stuck there.
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