Well I would say finally it's still up to him to realize. You have done your best
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Can't blame him for that. I used to have all the reserved or would say negative feeling about a virtual currency created out of nothing and then having a value. But after I understand the concept and technology behind it, my thinking has start to change.
Well I would say finally it's still up to him to realize. You have done your best
Well I would say finally it's still up to him to realize. You have done your best
I have an investor who is going to invest in my mining operations. With that, I will let people know and make them understand that what is Bitcoin and how it works, for the same, I will provide BTC0.002 to everyone who will join the movement, unless my BTC1 advertisement budget gets ended, then ask them to come to my shop that I will rent, ask them for BTC and will sell Coffee and other Cold-drinks to them to show them how easy it is to just give it and buy anything without anyone knowing you paid that... Cheers...
Cheers... 
My problem is you can't buy fried chicken with it anywhere.
Go and ask KFC to accept it then
lol 
Would they accept it?
No, but you could convince them to implement it... Ooo Speaking of which I need to check with the Gemstore I use in Thailand accepts it yet.
Edit: aww not yet
My problem is you can't buy fried chicken with it anywhere.
Go and ask KFC to accept it then
lol Would they accept it?
My problem is you can't buy fried chicken with it anywhere.
Go and ask KFC to accept it then
lol
My problem is you can't buy fried chicken with it anywhere.
I don't get it either why Bitcoin hasn't taken off yet, as I've mentioned in a previous thread.
My guess is for a few reasons:
I've always been into computing and although I only understand the basics of security when it comes to Bitcoin (keep the important amounts in cold storage, spread across many paper wallets) and use an online wallet for day to day transactions. For someone that isn't into computing it would seem like a strange fad, rather than a realistic change.
It's pricey. To try and get someone to pay £250 (at current rates) for something they won't really use for a couple of years takes some doing.
Lack of consumer options to spend. Here in the UK there's only a niche market for actually using the damn things. I've spent BTC on computer hardware and used darknet markets to get hold of pharmaceuticals but that's about it. If only Amazon UK would start accepting BTC directly I would be using it loads more. I bought most of my Christmas shopping from Amazon and I would definitely use BTC instead of debit card just to propagate the change we need.
Isn't it fashionable yet? I thought teenagers loved new technology but I don't see any fashion trends toward using Bitcoin. Not that I'm particularly down with what youngsters are doing these days.
People are too willing to believe government spin that the economy is slowly getting better. If people were prepared to read articles and watch documentaries about how rife corruption still is then they may think differently. They're far too willing to suck up whatever so-called impartial mass media is telling them, which is mainly led by government party policy. I'm looking at you, BBC!
I'm not really complaining about the slow adoption we're seeing because it allows me to slowly acquire more BTC with every pay cheque but it is somewhat astounding that average people aren't buying into Bitcoin. It seems to be the whales that have them all and that's the opposite of what Bitcoin should be about.
If anyone has an idea about when the tipping point will occur or what it will be I would like to know.
My guess is for a few reasons:
I've always been into computing and although I only understand the basics of security when it comes to Bitcoin (keep the important amounts in cold storage, spread across many paper wallets) and use an online wallet for day to day transactions. For someone that isn't into computing it would seem like a strange fad, rather than a realistic change.
It's pricey. To try and get someone to pay £250 (at current rates) for something they won't really use for a couple of years takes some doing.
Lack of consumer options to spend. Here in the UK there's only a niche market for actually using the damn things. I've spent BTC on computer hardware and used darknet markets to get hold of pharmaceuticals but that's about it. If only Amazon UK would start accepting BTC directly I would be using it loads more. I bought most of my Christmas shopping from Amazon and I would definitely use BTC instead of debit card just to propagate the change we need.
Isn't it fashionable yet? I thought teenagers loved new technology but I don't see any fashion trends toward using Bitcoin. Not that I'm particularly down with what youngsters are doing these days.
People are too willing to believe government spin that the economy is slowly getting better. If people were prepared to read articles and watch documentaries about how rife corruption still is then they may think differently. They're far too willing to suck up whatever so-called impartial mass media is telling them, which is mainly led by government party policy. I'm looking at you, BBC!
I'm not really complaining about the slow adoption we're seeing because it allows me to slowly acquire more BTC with every pay cheque but it is somewhat astounding that average people aren't buying into Bitcoin. It seems to be the whales that have them all and that's the opposite of what Bitcoin should be about.
If anyone has an idea about when the tipping point will occur or what it will be I would like to know.
It depends on who you talk to, what you're realising unfortunately is that the average person is actually pretty stupid ( I know this sounds harsh, but think about the kind of people that keep getting elected to office and you'll understand ) however for me at least the experience has been more positive because even though I got pretty ignorant comments from people some of them at least started researching it and now they're occasionally hitting articles and stuff I didn't know about that.
There's also a Bitcoin etsy team I had no clue about so it's not all a lost cause, I'm sure you found this already but generally people who have a positive disposition towards government tend to be less receptive to Bitcoin because they don't see why they need it.
There's also a Bitcoin etsy team I had no clue about so it's not all a lost cause, I'm sure you found this already but generally people who have a positive disposition towards government tend to be less receptive to Bitcoin because they don't see why they need it.
In my experience, I started telling people Bitcoin would change the world as we know it in 2012, People don't want an alternative to currency. Sure most who have a clue know that the system is broken but to them the thought of anything else just scares them. People fear change. Unless there is a BIG event the average person does not feel compelled to change what the foundation of what how our society operates.
My question to you is why do you feel you need to convince them? I know my reasons were pure and I will assume that your intention is to help people but preaching Bitcoin to the average person is like telling an alcoholic he needs to stop drinking. He may know what your saying is true but will fight and defend their position to the bitter end. All I can say is practice what you preach. If you believe in Bitcoin than live your life accordingly.
Funny enough is I get calls constantly from people who I tried to tell about Bitcoin. They want me to do it all for them at for them for nothing because they think it will make them rich. I did this a few times and when they lose 10% they get all hostile about having "trusted" me. I had this happen with friends of mine but funny thing was when they were up 100%+ my efforts were still not recognized.
For me Bitcoin represents freedom, sovernty and self determination. Those are beautiful things that one must discover for themselves. Regardless of the position of Bitcoin vs fiat I will forever be contributing to the network in some capacity. If you are involved in Bitcoin for the wrong reasons I can see how it can be scary, especially when the media is spreading FUD.
Long live decentra
My question to you is why do you feel you need to convince them? I know my reasons were pure and I will assume that your intention is to help people but preaching Bitcoin to the average person is like telling an alcoholic he needs to stop drinking. He may know what your saying is true but will fight and defend their position to the bitter end. All I can say is practice what you preach. If you believe in Bitcoin than live your life accordingly.
Funny enough is I get calls constantly from people who I tried to tell about Bitcoin. They want me to do it all for them at for them for nothing because they think it will make them rich. I did this a few times and when they lose 10% they get all hostile about having "trusted" me. I had this happen with friends of mine but funny thing was when they were up 100%+ my efforts were still not recognized.
For me Bitcoin represents freedom, sovernty and self determination. Those are beautiful things that one must discover for themselves. Regardless of the position of Bitcoin vs fiat I will forever be contributing to the network in some capacity. If you are involved in Bitcoin for the wrong reasons I can see how it can be scary, especially when the media is spreading FUD.
Long live decentra
So i have been talking to my friend since JUNE about bitcoins. its like talking to a cement wall. he so none of the positive stuff and all the negative things about bitcoin. How do we combat this shit.
Here are his latest replies. GRRRRRR
"I been watching the Bitcoin market and the value has tanked, 1 Bitcoin is only worth $366 now! Back in July is was over double that. I see In the market that bitcoins are not becoming as popular as people thought. On CNN money market, there saying bit coin is "the tip of a dangerous iceberg", Top investors say bit coins got a lukewarm welcome to the real world 2 months ago from the IRS and The IRS ruled that, for tax purposes, bitcoins should be treated as investments like stocks and bonds, rather than as traditional currency.
That’s a potential nightmare for currency users, because it could make any bitcoin transaction a “taxable event.” If your bitcoin rose in value between the time you obtained it and the time you used it, you could owe capital-gains tax—not something you need worry about when you pay with, say, a $20 bill. Lol.
From what I'm seeing is that Bitcoin’s fate relies on people’s willingness to accept it, use it and think it has some value. Banks won't accept it and many businesses that use to accept it no longer does. There's also some major changes in motion here too, New York state recently proposed virtual-currency rules that would require “BitLicenses” for people who trade, store or issue virtual currencies, along with disclosure, anti-laundering and security requirements. So you can actually be fined or jailed if you don't have a license for bitcoins.
I also read an article that miners are hacking people's bank accounts so it's more of a reason bitcoins might fall off the digit map, here's that article:
James Singleton, a digital manager at the Red Bull Music Academy in Germany, was coding one February afternoon and left his computer to go home at about 4 p.m. Three hours later, he received an email from Amazon saying his account had racked up a mysterious $2,600 bill, as well as 100 new, large databases that he never created in Dublin, Hong Kong, Tokyo and the U.S.
“I was furiously deleting these things,” Singleton says. But his account soon topped $5,100. Amazon removed the charges, he says, and told him the company had seen similar cases where people had infiltrated others’ accounts to mine for cryptocurrencies like bitcoin. “I can’t think of any other reason you might need to have that much computer power,” Singleton says.
Bitcoins are created through “mining,” a process in which computers solve complex math problems. It requires massive volumes of processing power and electricity, so some miners do it on somebody else’s dime. Some hackers are infiltrating peoples’ cloud accounts to set up data centers that mine for digital currencies.
Rob Ragan, a senior security associate at the security firm Bishop Fox, found that by scraping search engines, he could find users’ Amazon Web Services private keys—usernames and passwords. Hackers could access their accounts and control servers to set up mining operations. “There’s obviously a whole lot of money to be made by having someone else pay for all the power of your cryptocurrency mining,” Ragan says, adding that the process could run up a tab of up to $800,000 on someone’s cloud account.
A spokeswoman for Amazon Web Services called these cases “basic fraud” and declined to comment on how often they occur.
I guess I'm still not sold on it yet, I'm closely watching the market but it seems more like a "fab" that may or may not phase out over the next few years, hard to tell.."
Here are his latest replies. GRRRRRR
"I been watching the Bitcoin market and the value has tanked, 1 Bitcoin is only worth $366 now! Back in July is was over double that. I see In the market that bitcoins are not becoming as popular as people thought. On CNN money market, there saying bit coin is "the tip of a dangerous iceberg", Top investors say bit coins got a lukewarm welcome to the real world 2 months ago from the IRS and The IRS ruled that, for tax purposes, bitcoins should be treated as investments like stocks and bonds, rather than as traditional currency.
That’s a potential nightmare for currency users, because it could make any bitcoin transaction a “taxable event.” If your bitcoin rose in value between the time you obtained it and the time you used it, you could owe capital-gains tax—not something you need worry about when you pay with, say, a $20 bill. Lol.
From what I'm seeing is that Bitcoin’s fate relies on people’s willingness to accept it, use it and think it has some value. Banks won't accept it and many businesses that use to accept it no longer does. There's also some major changes in motion here too, New York state recently proposed virtual-currency rules that would require “BitLicenses” for people who trade, store or issue virtual currencies, along with disclosure, anti-laundering and security requirements. So you can actually be fined or jailed if you don't have a license for bitcoins.
I also read an article that miners are hacking people's bank accounts so it's more of a reason bitcoins might fall off the digit map, here's that article:
James Singleton, a digital manager at the Red Bull Music Academy in Germany, was coding one February afternoon and left his computer to go home at about 4 p.m. Three hours later, he received an email from Amazon saying his account had racked up a mysterious $2,600 bill, as well as 100 new, large databases that he never created in Dublin, Hong Kong, Tokyo and the U.S.
“I was furiously deleting these things,” Singleton says. But his account soon topped $5,100. Amazon removed the charges, he says, and told him the company had seen similar cases where people had infiltrated others’ accounts to mine for cryptocurrencies like bitcoin. “I can’t think of any other reason you might need to have that much computer power,” Singleton says.
Bitcoins are created through “mining,” a process in which computers solve complex math problems. It requires massive volumes of processing power and electricity, so some miners do it on somebody else’s dime. Some hackers are infiltrating peoples’ cloud accounts to set up data centers that mine for digital currencies.
Rob Ragan, a senior security associate at the security firm Bishop Fox, found that by scraping search engines, he could find users’ Amazon Web Services private keys—usernames and passwords. Hackers could access their accounts and control servers to set up mining operations. “There’s obviously a whole lot of money to be made by having someone else pay for all the power of your cryptocurrency mining,” Ragan says, adding that the process could run up a tab of up to $800,000 on someone’s cloud account.
A spokeswoman for Amazon Web Services called these cases “basic fraud” and declined to comment on how often they occur.
I guess I'm still not sold on it yet, I'm closely watching the market but it seems more like a "fab" that may or may not phase out over the next few years, hard to tell.."
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