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legendary
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January 20, 2016, 07:29:09 AM
#68
Unlike any other commodity, bitcoin has most influential factor for deciding it's price levels, it is network's difficulty levels. When more bitcoin miners enters into mining bitcoin then we can expect the price raise of bitcoins. The vice versa also true.

It's supply and demand theory only. Fundamentally bitcoin is similar to all other traditional things. Like any things in this world, only supply and demand moves bitcoin prices also....

If more people want bitcoin, its price will rise. It is quite simple. It is not affected by mining difficulty. If the price drop, miners will turn off their miners.

the price is purely build up on the demand, that's right. the difficulty simply adjusts itself to whatever the current price is. if there is low demand, then the result of that is a lower price, and that might result in a lower or less higher difficulty. from time to time you can see the potential difficulty increase will be 8%, if the price comes down for whatever reason, you can then see the difficulty go down from 8% to around 5%.
hero member
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January 20, 2016, 06:25:11 AM
#67
Unlike any other commodity, bitcoin has most influential factor for deciding it's price levels, it is network's difficulty levels. When more bitcoin miners enters into mining bitcoin then we can expect the price raise of bitcoins. The vice versa also true.

It's supply and demand theory only. Fundamentally bitcoin is similar to all other traditional things. Like any things in this world, only supply and demand moves bitcoin prices also....

If more people want bitcoin, its price will rise. It is quite simple. It is not affected by mining difficulty. If the price drop, miners will turn off their miners.
hero member
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January 18, 2016, 01:02:55 AM
#66
Unlike any other commodity, bitcoin has most influential factor for deciding it's price levels, it is network's difficulty levels. When more bitcoin miners enters into mining bitcoin then we can expect the price raise of bitcoins. The vice versa also true.

It's supply and demand theory only. Fundamentally bitcoin is similar to all other traditional things. Like any things in this world, only supply and demand moves bitcoin prices also....
sr. member
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January 17, 2016, 02:58:37 PM
#65
Unlike any other commodity, bitcoin has most influential factor for deciding it's price levels, it is network's difficulty levels. When more bitcoin miners enters into mining bitcoin then we can expect the price raise of bitcoins. The vice versa also true.
legendary
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January 14, 2016, 12:28:27 PM
#64
For stock exchanges, situations like what happened in Paris with the terrorism attack,means changes in the prices of the stocks, but due to bitcoin is kind of different, for you, what do you have to be in mind when you speculate about the price? I mean, what type of news or kind of doings, you have to keep in your mind to get winner in the bitcoin transactions?

One word - China. Since the day one, Chinese users move the price.
Also, I expect this upcoming block halving to move the price up, big time. However, we still have a few months until this kicks in.
Had the same thinking. China is the one which decides the price. Now also the china market has fallen a bit high when compared to other countries.This has lead to a decrease in the value of bitcoin. No matter who decides it should benefit humans.

also i'm quite convinced that Chinese users greatly affect on bitcoin price. huge market and particularly because of the cheap development mining hardware
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 10:24:58 AM
#63
Normally it would be news, but these days some new actors are active on this market.
I still think/hope some positive has some influence, since it would be crazy if we should depend on whales to move the price.

news has barely any impact anymore on the price. only very bad news can impact the price in a bad way. hacked exchanges, governments seizing/freezing all funds of the exchanges and such. at this point the only news that can affect the bitcoin price in a good way is when we find a solution for the block size. then you'll see a pump happen.
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 09:31:19 AM
#62
For stock exchanges, situations like what happened in Paris with the terrorism attack,means changes in the prices of the stocks, but due to bitcoin is kind of different, for you, what do you have to be in mind when you speculate about the price? I mean, what type of news or kind of doings, you have to keep in your mind to get winner in the bitcoin transactions?

One word - China. Since the day one, Chinese users move the price.
Also, I expect this upcoming block halving to move the price up, big time. However, we still have a few months until this kicks in.
Had the same thinking. China is the one which decides the price. Now also the china market has fallen a bit high when compared to other countries.This has lead to a decrease in the value of bitcoin. No matter who decides it should benefit humans.

Agreed. Incidents like Mt. Gox and Silk Road should also be noted.
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 06:08:22 AM
#61
Normally it would be news, but these days some new actors are active on this market.
I still think/hope some positive has some influence, since it would be crazy if we should depend on whales to move the price.
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 03:14:44 AM
#60
For stock exchanges, situations like what happened in Paris with the terrorism attack,means changes in the prices of the stocks, but due to bitcoin is kind of different, for you, what do you have to be in mind when you speculate about the price? I mean, what type of news or kind of doings, you have to keep in your mind to get winner in the bitcoin transactions?

One word - China. Since the day one, Chinese users move the price.
Also, I expect this upcoming block halving to move the price up, big time. However, we still have a few months until this kicks in.
Had the same thinking. China is the one which decides the price. Now also the china market has fallen a bit high when compared to other countries.This has lead to a decrease in the value of bitcoin. No matter who decides it should benefit humans.
legendary
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January 12, 2016, 11:28:25 PM
#59
I am not convinced news is a major mover of price compared to the stock market. Take 2014 as a perfect example...sure, Gox collapsing at the beginning of the year had a major negative effect on the price, but bitcoin companies raised $315 million in VC funding that year. 

I think the market is greatly manipulated by bigger players. I think it is only logical an unregulated and volatile market will attract those types.

News isn't moving the Bitcoin price unless it's very bad news. Good news has barely any impact anymore nowadays. Many people think that certain companies/startups who raise millions are good for the price. That isn't the case. None of that money is being invested in Bitcoin as coin. That's why it doesn't have an effect on the price.

There are many factors which are usually moving bitcoin prices either up or down. The basic rule for any commodity is supply and demand. Usually supply and demand will move the price for for any commodity but in bitcoin ecosystem we have constants supply for every four years. So, demand plays a big role in moving bitcoin prices.
legendary
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January 09, 2016, 04:59:49 AM
#58
I am not convinced news is a major mover of price compared to the stock market. Take 2014 as a perfect example...sure, Gox collapsing at the beginning of the year had a major negative effect on the price, but bitcoin companies raised $315 million in VC funding that year. 

I think the market is greatly manipulated by bigger players. I think it is only logical an unregulated and volatile market will attract those types.

News isn't moving the Bitcoin price unless it's very bad news. Good news has barely any impact anymore nowadays. Many people think that certain companies/startups who raise millions are good for the price. That isn't the case. None of that money is being invested in Bitcoin as coin. That's why it doesn't have an effect on the price.
hero member
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January 09, 2016, 04:51:28 AM
#57
i think the interest of people who want to buy it and sell it

Not that dude. Its because of Adaption from the business people who are taking bitcoin as their transaction medium. And Halving making difference in bitcoin price chart  because both things will play vibrant in price chart If you see the past years.
hero member
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January 08, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
#56
What moves Bitcoin price, are Bitcoin whales.

Everything else is illusion. So called 'fundamentals' are simply faerie stories that are used to 'explain' whale interventions which may be totally idiosyncratic, or indeed, the whale interventions may be timed to coincide with 'Fundamental Events', such as the pump that occured on the 2nd 7% China Stock Market drop.

'News' event occurs. Whales start Painting the Tape and ramping, market particpants put 2 and 2 together, and get 22, and pile in. Thus market rises. 'Explanation' in peoples heads is that market is rising, due to Chinese flooding into Bitcoin, but infact, the market has risen, because people believe that this is occuring, or will occur sometime in the future. Had the whales behind the CNY exchanges started dumping on the 7% Stock Market drop, then the 'explanation' would have been, 'Chinese investors liquidiating Bitcoin positions to cover losses in stock market'.

Nothing annoys me more than the volume of false paradigms that are propagated on places like this (and in investment media in general) and end up passing for reality. But buy into any of it, and you will pay the price, because far more often than not, believing in bullshit only pays off, until one day it doesn't pay off, and in spectacular fashion.
full member
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January 08, 2016, 06:09:45 PM
#55
I am not convinced news is a major mover of price compared to the stock market. Take 2014 as a perfect example...sure, Gox collapsing at the beginning of the year had a major negative effect on the price, but bitcoin companies raised $315 million in VC funding that year. 

I think the market is greatly manipulated by bigger players. I think it is only logical an unregulated and volatile market will attract those types.
legendary
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January 08, 2016, 03:10:00 PM
#54
By demand and supply.

For time being, the speculation drive the price up and down. Big whales can also influence the price a lot.

Yes speculating upcoming halving must be a big drive force for bitcoin prices in recent times. Because everyone is competing to catch a good buying price. In this way those who bought around $240 levels are a definite ultimate winners already.

Yes, speculation must be a one of the prime mover of bitcoin prices. In long term everyone believes bitcoin prices will goes to very much higher prices. This is because of the capped nature of total supply of bitcoin. So with the limited supply of bitcoin prices everyone always speculate it will go to higher price definitely.
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
#53
By demand and supply.

For time being, the speculation drive the price up and down. Big whales can also influence the price a lot.

Yes speculating upcoming halving must be a big drive force for bitcoin prices in recent times. Because everyone is competing to catch a good buying price. In this way those who bought around $240 levels are a definite ultimate winners already.
member
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January 07, 2016, 08:54:32 AM
#52
I do believe there are many factors driving the Bitcoins prices. I think a good place to start could be other kinds of assets, most notable stocks, fiats, bonds, gold and oil. When this kind of assets loses value, the interest in the Bitcoins could rise, because of people always wanting to make money, then it is logical than people would invest in the assets with the biggest ROIC. The demand on the coin increases, and simply demand/supply theory says the price goes up.
hero member
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January 07, 2016, 06:43:40 AM
#51
By demand and supply.

For time being, the speculation drive the price up and down. Big whales can also influence the price a lot.
hero member
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November 28, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
#50
Generally, The bitcoin price is moved up when demand increases and it moves down when supply increases.
full member
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November 28, 2015, 06:45:30 PM
#49
By demand and supply.
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