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When an economy is poor then the whole system controlling it is poor and this is indirectly saying that the government leadership is being poor on the same vein, a poor economy system is as a result of how the government take charge and control every day to day activities of the economy and how their regulation is being effectively utilized, the poor people will suffer most because they can perform than the level of what they have acquired and this makes the standard of living there so low but the moment they are determined not to rely on government, they can go self sustainable through their local way of productions with a organizational structure of division of labour.
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Poverty cannot be separated from people who do not have the skills or capital to develop an improving economy, most of them do not have permanent jobs which makes it difficult for them to build an economy. It's not that they are not struggling to survive, every day they are trying to earn a few dollars to provide for the family.

Actually, when viewed from the deepest conscience, the poor are part of the beauty of the world. Rich people will find it difficult in any way if there are no poor people. Imagine if everyone in this world became the boss, then who would be the employees. Rich people and poor people always play their roles well, even though poverty is not someone's goal, they are not lucky with the current conditions.

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The work force is can be contributed by the poor to the economy.Because to survive,they can work hard to earn.So the capitalist people can use them to increase the economy activities.When the production was increased by the poor people,the capitalist will pay them more taxes to the government.By the government increase taxes,they can use the money for the new scheme to help the poor people.So finally poor get benefit by their work.

Yes, right. Everyone needs and relies on each other. Because basically the poor help with labor, and the rich help by creating jobs.
Well between the poor and the rich have an important role in the economic cycle. But unfortunately in some countries the number of people who fall into poverty is far more than the number who become rich. But we really can't blame anyone. because basically everyone struggles in their own way. The most important thing is that we must continue to be motivated to raise our standard of living by continuing to work hard and make innovations that can bring improvements to our finances.
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The work force is can be contributed by the poor to the economy.Because to survive,they can work hard to earn.So the capitalist people can use them to increase the economy activities.When the production was increased by the poor people,the capitalist will pay them more taxes to the government.By the government increase taxes,they can use the money for the new scheme to help the poor people.So finally poor get benefit by their work.

Yes, right. Everyone needs and relies on each other. Because basically the poor help with labor, and the rich help by creating jobs.
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I personally think poor people are always paying the biggest bill/cost in economic crisis. Their main role is to join labor, work hard, make economy better, but in return get very low return. Its sad for them. But this is how market economy works. There should be majority working class people so rich can live better lives. I am not leftist in this but I feel like laborers should at least have more opportunities to reach higher ranks/classes in society.
I think thats just the balance of nature and its always there because everyone should and would not be rich no matter how the government and economy strives, there are still going to be some class of folk that will always live under the average way of living in every economy and these sets of people are the ones that do the dirties for the nations economy.

It is really always there, and the government is mostly focusing on and in a loop of helping poor people by providing food and money for them to survive, but still, it is not the solution, as others said, as it will make them more lazy on that method. That is why others prefer to give them jobs rather than giving them money, as they will always come back to ask. But again, there are really classifications, as those on lower classifications like us will be the manpower for the world.
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There's less or nothing at all of a positive impact the poor plays in the economy of any county order than been a burden to the government. The poor are there just to make the wealthy more wealthier in the sense that they are used as stooges by the rich to perpetrate certain unlawful activities.
There must be a positive impact, because the rich and the poor have become a cycle that cannot be separated because they both need each other for economic growth in various fields.
That's right.
Because if one of these things is removed then of course this will hamper the existing wheels of life because basically when talking about rich and poor this is the same as a symbiosis of mutualism that requires each other.
When poverty, for example, is eliminated, then everything will not go according to its portion. when everyone gets rich then who will become employees and life won't go well of course so with conditions like this it is clear when talking about rich and poor all have the same portion in position it's just certain that all of us want to be in a rich condition and don't want to be in a poor position and that's natural, I think because we really have a level of desire to live a better life.
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I personally think poor people are always paying the biggest bill/cost in economic crisis. Their main role is to join labor, work hard, make economy better, but in return get very low return. Its sad for them. But this is how market economy works. There should be majority working class people so rich can live better lives. I am not leftist in this but I feel like laborers should at least have more opportunities to reach higher ranks/classes in society.
I think thats just the balance of nature and its always there because everyone should and would not be rich no matter how the government and economy strives, there are still going to be some class of folk that will always live under the average way of living in every economy and these sets of people are the ones that do the dirties for the nations economy.
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There's less or nothing at all of a positive impact the poor plays in the economy of any county order than been a burden to the government. The poor are there just to make the wealthy more wealthier in the sense that they are used as stooges by the rich to perpetrate certain unlawful activities.
There must be a positive impact, because the rich and the poor have become a cycle that cannot be separated because they both need each other for economic growth in various fields.

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The poor are a threat to tranquility and security in the society and that's why every government needs to tackle poverty as much as they can to beat it to it's barest minimum. Cause where there's so much poverty there bound to be increase in crime rate cause majority of these poor populace may only see crime as means to daily survival.
Actually crime is not synonymous with poverty, even bigger crimes are committed by rich people and state officials by means of corruption and so on. The state's task should be to reduce its citizens so they don't live in poverty. But the problem of poverty is very complex, because poverty is sometimes also caused by factors beyond the ability of the individual, one of which is due to inherited family poverty.

So not all poverty is an individual's fault, there are still external factors, but fortunately I have parents (only my mother, my biological father is divorced) who are not mentally poor, they care about education, while my mother's parents (my mother's) are parents who don't care about the future. He thinks women don't need education, this is a wrong idea.

Apart from that, poverty is caused by the absence of jobs, the cost of living is expensive, and the scope of poverty is due to the high rate of corruption. The government must change the mindset of a consumptive society to be productive. Ensure that development is carried out on a priority scale that can improve living standards. Make sure that government programs tend to be more productive, don't subsidize the consumptive sector.
Certainly, white-collar crimes, such as corruption, bribery, and misappropriation, often outshine the crimes linked with the financially challenged. This reinforces the need to rethink our dialogue on crime and poverty, shifting from stereotypes to a comprehensive understanding of systemic and structural factors. However, your words suggest that poverty reduction is mainly a state's task. While the state has a duty to protect its citizens' welfare, poverty's roots are intertwined with societal norms, cultural values, and economic systems.

Consider the belief that women's education isn't essential - a remnant of patriarchal societies. A government initiative alone won't extinguish such deep-rooted notions. We need a societal transformation towards gender equality and empowerment. As for corruption, its association with poverty is convoluted. While corruption indeed impedes economic growth, it's not the only poverty source. A more encompassing approach to poverty reduction would also tackle income inequality, education quality, and healthcare access.
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Because of those people who are consider as a poor makes that foundation of houses in which wealthier people lives. There are lots of jobs which will not be possible without these people so I think that instead of wealthier people the poor people play very important role in the economy of a country.

If the percentage of poor people are greater than wealthier one then this implies to the fact that the resources in that county is not maximum to fulfil the needs of people. I think that if there are lots of people who cannot afford to eat well, dress well and completed their needs but they buy something which the wealthier people often rejected to buy therefore it can be says that poor people also play an active responsibility in economy of a country.

We should respect them and should give courage to the work of poor people because if everyone become wealthy then there will be lots of work which will be pending and may be many activities will be uncompleted without help of these people so we should appreciate them and respect them.
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I personally think poor people are always paying the biggest bill/cost in economic crisis. Their main role is to join labor, work hard, make economy better, but in return get very low return. Its sad for them. But this is how market economy works. There should be majority working class people so rich can live better lives. I am not leftist in this but I feel like laborers should at least have more opportunities to reach higher ranks/classes in society.
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In what ways have the people living in poverty impacted in the economy?
Share your ideas on the importance of the poor masses in economy sustainability.
There's less or nothing at all of a positive impact the poor plays in the economy of any county order than been a burden to the government. The poor are there just to make the wealthy more wealthier in the sense that they are used as stooges by the rich to perpetrate certain unlawful activities.

The poor are a threat to tranquility and security in the society and that's why every government needs to tackle poverty as much as they can to beat it to it's barest minimum. Cause where there's so much poverty there bound to be increase in crime rate cause majority of these poor populace may only see crime as means to daily survival.

Not all poor people are a burden to society or will become criminals who disrupt the peace of society.  what you are saying about the poor is a bit excessive and unacceptable.  my family is also poor, but we are not people who cause harm to society, do not ask anyone for anything, no one wants to be poor to be despised by others.  I don't know if you are rich, but you despise the poor so much, they are poor, but they are still human beings like everyone else.  the poor need to be treated fairly.
You misunderstood me mate, no doubt we will always have the poor around us and by poor here I mean indigent people that add no value or whatsoever to society like beggars on the streets. You can be said to be poor but with a skill you render as service to the rich in return you earn money but when you're poor and comfortable in it then you're a threat to society cause such persons will always see crime as the only easy means of survival thereby breaching the peace.

As long as anyone can provide shelter, clothing, and food for themselves which are the basic necessities of life then they ain't in this category of poor as meant here in this thread. And to be explicit, your family are not poor neither am I against the poor.



Not only did I misunderstand you, but you can see that many people are objecting to what you say.  i don't know what you're trying to say, but blaming the poor is unfair.  I do not deny that many poor people are having a negative impact on society, but not all poor people are like that.
The rich also have a lot of bad guys, corrupt politicians, and tycoons exploiting the labor of the poor...to judge the impact of a person on the country's economy, we can't just rely on their appearance, and rich or poor is not a yardstick to judge whether people are good or bad.
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The fact is poor people are needed by rich people. and the rich will even live in trouble without the presence of the poor in this world. because there are rich people because there are poor people.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours, as both the rich and the poor is needed to create balance in the world, because if everybody is rich, who will be the personal drivers, the cleaners and the security guards, and likewise if everybody is poor, who will be the employers, the directors and entrepreneurs, as all need one another for the society to function effectively.
I agree that poor people are not unruly class, in fact if we were to look into who hurts the economy of a nation more, we will realize that wealthy people hurt it multiple times more than what the poor does. Even if you consider poor people taking welfare and all, we have rich people stealing taxes, how? They just make it look like they haven't made as much by increasing their spending, and putting it on silly stuff.

Look at Nike alone, they have a different company that they use for licensing, and they pay that company a lot, to make it look like they haven't made that much, just one example. This is why poor are the unfortunate class that is getting the short end of the stick, whereas wealthy people are the main reason why economy sucks.

Both the rich and the poor make important contributions to a country's economy, and depending on the lifestyle of each person will have different effects on the economy. It cannot be said that the rich are doing more harm to the economy while the poor are not. It is possible that some rich people evade taxes, but not all because the tax that the government collects is still largely from businesses, not from individuals. Meanwhile, without the poor, we wouldn't be able to have the workforce to do the heavy lifting to make products for our use. But poverty is also elementary to lead to social evils, and that is not good for society.
Therefore, depending on whether each person will be harmful or beneficial to the economy, it cannot be said that the rich or poor are harmful to the national economy.
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In what ways have the people living in poverty impacted in the economy?
Share your ideas on the importance of the poor masses in economy sustainability.
Have you seen any rich guy doing trades, manual labor, working as a cashier, postman or fighting in a war? No, they don't. This world would collapse without poor guys and you know what's the whole magic behind to make poor people work and work? Just pay them enough to live and when they get skilled, improve their salary, make it enough to live slightly comfortable salary but not so much that they will retire soon or start a business. Oh, also, make sure that houses cost a lot and rent prices are high too, to make them even more dependent on their jobs. Also, tax everything, their salary, foods, etc to even make them more dependent on their job. Also, make them tire to not be able to do/think more when they finish their job.

At the same time, I want to say that it's not like rich people do absolutely nothing and enslave people and that's the way it works, no, rich people, who own businesses and actively manage it, are good at business management. It's not easy to start a business, keep it and improve over time, turn small business into a big corporation, that's not as easy as it looks from outside, that makes some rich people prominent from poor people.
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The fact is poor people are needed by rich people. and the rich will even live in trouble without the presence of the poor in this world. because there are rich people because there are poor people.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours, as both the rich and the poor is needed to create balance in the world, because if everybody is rich, who will be the personal drivers, the cleaners and the security guards, and likewise if everybody is poor, who will be the employers, the directors and entrepreneurs, as all need one another for the society to function effectively.
I agree that poor people are not unruly class, in fact if we were to look into who hurts the economy of a nation more, we will realize that wealthy people hurt it multiple times more than what the poor does. Even if you consider poor people taking welfare and all, we have rich people stealing taxes, how? They just make it look like they haven't made as much by increasing their spending, and putting it on silly stuff.

Look at Nike alone, they have a different company that they use for licensing, and they pay that company a lot, to make it look like they haven't made that much, just one example. This is why poor are the unfortunate class that is getting the short end of the stick, whereas wealthy people are the main reason why economy sucks.
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Since I don't fully understand what you mean when you say "poor people," I think you should provide more context for the topics you want people to discuss.

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In what ways have the people living in poverty impacted in the economy?


Do you realize that without the poor, even today's wealthy people couldn't enjoy their wealth?
However, when we talk about the impact that the poor have on the economy, I think the main one in my opinion is farming. Mate, have you ever seen a rich man working in the farm? The fact that the poor today work for the rich, in my opinion, is another area where the poor today contribute to the economy. Even if they do farm labor, they search for the underprivileged to work for them and receive payment for their efforts.

However, in my opinion, when you consider these circumstances today, I feel the poor are well contributing in many ways, as well as the fact that they go farming, do farming, and then take their produce to markets to sell it, who are those buying it? Even if it's just that one, I think the wealthy folks.
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The fact is poor people are needed by rich people. and the rich will even live in trouble without the presence of the poor in this world. because there are rich people because there are poor people.

Even poor people are very meritorious behind every company development of rich people and the progress of a country's development. Because they are willing to work for a small salary. They work harder but for less money. So on the one hand poor people have very important services.
Simply we can say that if there were no poor people there would be no way to become rich. As we know that light is worthless without darkness. If there were no poor people, the word development would not even be uttered. The status of the rich can be understood because there are poor. If poor people stop their work for a day it will be very easy to understand the importance of poor people. Poor people are working today so that the rich can enjoy luxuries. The poor are working to produce goods and various works the rich are getting advantages by their work. And the biggest thing is that the rich are able to keep their positions because the appearance of the poor.
Exactly what you said friend. Both are like two sides of a coin which cannot be separated as units of a coin. Both will always exist side by side and need each other. The rich are actually the ones who need the power of the poor the most. Even rich people would not have servants in their homes if there were no poor people willing to work for them. This is why between rich people and poor people still have to respect each other. nowadays rich people are much respected because of their wealth. but very few poor people are honored. but I personally also see that the poor also deserve respect because they make important contributions because they are willing to do menial work that maybe we can't do it. The bottom line is we need each other.
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High numbers of poor people is an indicator that shows how government does their job in one country. High number of poor people shows government priority in creating country’s budget. However, there are moments when poor isnt an indicator to show how good or bad government works. Country by itself can be poor; for example they might now have any recourses except land or labor force.
It was the indicator that leaders in that country does nothing help to improve their status but a corrupt leader. It's a big shame but as a citizen of that country, we should also have to find a way to get out of being poor and lift ourselves alone rather than relying on the government that never think good for its countrymen. And it ended up just a labor force to other countries as that is the only they can offer due to lack of education and skill. But despite the status of their life, their participation is also a big help in a way of being an employee.

Let the government do their job and do your own because if we rely on government then for sure we will start. This is also whatI've noticed right now because unlike before, I've seen a lot of people joining rallies towards the government, but right now there are only a few and others prefer to find some money so that they have to eat. They are now working on their own to be able to find food on the table, and if the government helps them then it's just a bonus for them now.
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If governments were benevolent, there would no longer be the poverty we see all over the world. If wealth were better distributed, there would be no more insane income disparities. We have to believe that maintaining a certain proportion of the population in poverty, or even misery, is a deliberate choice: less educated, more docile population, lower life expectancy.

It's the poor who gamble their way out of poverty (and the state which takes its big share). Sometimes too much poverty breeds delinquency too, but the very rich aren't the victims most of the time.

Without poverty, there'd be no more delinquency (or less), no more need to migrate to another country, no more homelessness, no more gambling addiction, no more despair, but also less slave labor to do dangerous, underpaid jobs. And more risk of global revolt.

Poverty is a weapon of the very rich.
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What's your definition of poor, financially incapable??
What role do you expect the play??
Every class of personality is actually important in a society, the financially capable and incapable have their parts to play but that doesn't make them less human than the other.
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High numbers of poor people is an indicator that shows how government does their job in one country. High number of poor people shows government priority in creating country’s budget. However, there are moments when poor isnt an indicator to show how good or bad government works. Country by itself can be poor; for example they might now have any recourses except land or labor force.
It was the indicator that leaders in that country does nothing help to improve their status but a corrupt leader. It's a big shame but as a citizen of that country, we should also have to find a way to get out of being poor and lift ourselves alone rather than relying on the government that never think good for its countrymen. And it ended up just a labor force to other countries as that is the only they can offer due to lack of education and skill. But despite the status of their life, their participation is also a big help in a way of being an employee.
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