Topic: What should be included in a newbie welcome message? - page 2. (Read 933 times)

If you put a naked/half-naked or even boobs to make people read the rules no one will ever read them, most of them gonna be bashing the candle and after that no one will remember to read the rules..
Better use some scary shit that can shake them really hard and BOO! READ THE F.king RULES can appear.
I bet they gonna remember it quite for long...


I know

Wait! is bitcointalk NSFW?


I could have hired someone to do this but I don't trust you anymore, I still haven't received my 7 sMerits. 

How about just an image:



And/or perhaps it should also be sound-tracked by some obnoxiously loud filthy dubstep as well that autoplays as soon as you successfully sign up to really get their attention? Perhaps we could create a dubstep track with the hook or lyrics of the song just being "READ THE RULES" over and over? 50 Merit to anyone who creates this.

Alternatively, an image of a half-naked woman could be displayed, and if you look closely READ THE RULES could be edited across her boobs? I'm sure that would get their attention. 10 merits for this.

Seriously, we don't need to have everything in caps and bright colours to get their attention. If they don't read it then that's their problem. People generally don't read terms and conditions because they're often overly long and in undecipherable legal spiel. This is short and sweet for those exact same reasons. Before they even sign up or as soon as they successfully create an account here a warning to read the rules could be displayed, but there's really no excuses for not reading it other than your own foolishness

The offer of 50 merit for the dubstep track with the hook still stands and 10 for the boobs (make sure she's not actually naked or topless though and don't put it in image tags. Also mark it as NSFW).

OP, that's a good list you have there, will be good for now, IMHO.

My suggestion would be to add something that would catch the eye of the reader (some flashy text, red text, increased font size etc.) to avoid having this list ignored in the same way people normally look over the TOS of any software application.

Just my 2 cents  

Doesn't it already do this? Besides, there's already 'copy and paste' in there as well. I'm not going to dumb things down any more than they need to be and it's not my problem if somebody doesn't understand something. Will we then accept the excuse that "I didn't understand the rules" or "too many big words - no comprende". As many people already say, people should know it's never ok to copy someone else's content regardless of whether they know what plagiarism means or not, but the info is there.  This is all about giving the info to people as soon as they sign up so there's no excuses for not being aware but not understanding the rules because of terminology isn't going to be an excuse that flies. If you don't speak English or understand a word then translate it or read the rules of your local board which this will likely be translated to and stickied there also (translations could also be linked to in the op). If they don't understand something then they should either google it or ask somebody else like anyone with a brain cell would do.

Agreed.

I'd like to suggest that many noobs who struggle with English might not understand what "plagiarism" means.  I think that line should be dumbed-down to make sure there are no misunderstandings.  The message should make it explicit that you may not copy and paste content from anywhere, whether it's off-site or someone else's post on BCT unless the material is properly cited.  Since we've had such a huge problem with plagiarism and with Meta being jammed with ban appeals because of it, I think the warning should be crystal clear.

LOL.  It did say that.  Forgive me, I just woke up and have not yet drunk coffee. 

Yeah, you're probably right. Will change it later.



I'll probably sticky it in bitcoin discussion or something, but ideally I think it should be both sticked and either directly linked to on sign-up or ideally shown as soon as they sign up.


I'm not sure what half of you're even trying to say here, but the bits I think I do seem to have already been addressed or included.


Like you? Did you even read the op?


It is already condense, but again, I don't think you actually even bothered to read what I wrote.


Illegal in your jurisdiction or that of the United States then. We don't need a thread discussing what it and what isn't legal in everyone's possible location.


It really can't get any shorter than it already is and I'm not about to add colours just for the idiots with short attention spans or are in too much of a rush to start spamming. If people don't read it because it's not in red or abbreviated leetspeak then that's their fault. The info is there and they've been suggested to read it and if they don't then they can't cry when you lose your account to your own ignorance.

I thing the word Illegal is too wide and maybe need a specific detail and further explanation on the Illegal things. There are different set of laws too based on the country or region, for example weed, in some country it is Illegal and some country ban it. I suggest that there is an official thread to explain it and just put the link in the newbie welcome message.

Do not offer any service that is illegal or meant to cheat systems.

The wording can probably be improved.  This would include things such as offering DDOS attacks, offering to bump posts, offering to like posts, etc.
Anything that can be used to bypass a website's reputation or ranking system.

to give examples of your advice better like this so it doesn't headache when reading it.

I think it needs to be emphasised that failure to adhere to the rules in which you mentioned will result in a permanent ban, maybe in a big bold font such as this

 WARNING: FAILURE TO ADHERE TO THE RULES WILL RESULT IN A PERMANENT BAN!

Or if you fancy a little more bold approach...


DO NOT SPAM MOTHERF*CKERS!!!

 

Here's what I think about explaining what language can a person use.

First, Bitcointalk main language is "ENGLISH" in most boards.
Second, You can use another language in "LOCAL BOARDS" located HERE.

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About the interval between posts, I won't consider 6 mins though and I think the account might be ban (i hope not).

Most likely nobody is going to read it if it's too long, like those Terms & Conditions.
In any case i think is better for it to be short and a condensate of the most important things which are needed for a newcomer to survive in here.

May I suggest to start with a historical quote? Including the quote-tags, name and date:
The "new" would work again for the new forum software.

Well i missed that part, it is my mistake and thanks for pointing it out, but from this incident, i guess there will be a chance that newbie will not read all the newbie welcome message especially if they are only here for making money. Making it shorter or give some colors to the letters like "red" for important point maybe something we can consider, but this is solely my opinion.


The idea of "Making money from this forum is not moderated by the forum" is excellent because if you only stated "Everything....." it will make the forum looks like a place that hosting scammer only.

That sounds a bit confusing, perhaps this would be more accurate:

Main discussion boards on Bitcointalk are English-only and if you struggle...


Yes, some variation of the above needs to be there.

The welcome message should also be available as a permanent link somewhere so that we could yell at noobs for not reading helpfully point new users to it in case they missed it.

Warning: Everything is a scam until proven otherwise by YOU..
Proceed at your own risk..

The only question that remain here is how we can get an answer from theymos or at least some reaction. I know he likes to troll/surprise people as he stated this a few times before but those are serious things, related to the future of the forum and the well-being of all the members no matter how good or bad they/we are, those a community-related questions and need some clearance.

I guess it would be good with the long text if the join the first time!
Also, it will be good they have to click on a " OK I have Read it"  button so no one can say they haven't read it or known!