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legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1008
Delusional crypto obsessionist
August 18, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
#76
First of all, don't listen to the idiots on here. That's what got you into this situation in the first place. The "buy and hold" is a sales tactic of the early investors so they can cash out their bitcoin slowly overtime without the price crashing. Many on here will tell you that since you've held for this long, you might as well stick it out. They'll tell you that we've bottomed out (rpitiela and others) or that "this has all happened before" because they either want to sell to you, or they're also in over their heads and misery enjoys company.

You can choose to stick it out if you like and pray for a rebound, but just keep in mind that there is no goldren rule that we won't continue to drop and nothing is off limits, including $300s, $200s or worse.

thus is scary but true. I will hold, even if I am not sure, as others seem, that bitcoin will rise again. Bitcoin could have been a fashion, a bubble like all other bubbles in history since 1600. Anyway I have taken my decision. If I was going to sell now I would lose 40% of my investment and it is way to much.
Anyway, thanks everyone because when you are losing thousands euros, big part of your savings, in a single week worst thing is to feel alone. You gave me hope. Maybe I am wrong again but I have  took my decision. I don't need that money to live so I will wait.
Greetings from Italy..
Hero.

You should put a bitcoin address in your sig, I would donate satoshis, to make you feel better. Wink
full member
Activity: 293
Merit: 100
August 18, 2014, 03:59:15 PM
#75
First of all, don't listen to the idiots on here. That's what got you into this situation in the first place. The "buy and hold" is a sales tactic of the early investors so they can cash out their bitcoin slowly overtime without the price crashing. Many on here will tell you that since you've held for this long, you might as well stick it out. They'll tell you that we've bottomed out (rpitiela and others) or that "this has all happened before" because they either want to sell to you, or they're also in over their heads and misery enjoys company.

You can choose to stick it out if you like and pray for a rebound, but just keep in mind that there is no goldren rule that we won't continue to drop and nothing is off limits, including $300s, $200s or worse.

thus is scary but true. I will hold, even if I am not sure, as others seem, that bitcoin will rise again. Bitcoin could have been a fashion, a bubble like all other bubbles in history since 1600. Anyway I have taken my decision. If I was going to sell now I would lose 40% of my investment and it is way to much.
Anyway, thanks everyone because when you are losing thousands euros, big part of your savings, in a single week worst thing is to feel alone. You gave me hope. Maybe I am wrong again but I have  took my decision. I don't need that money to live so I will wait.
Greetings from Italy..
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
August 18, 2014, 03:51:59 PM
#74
hi, I invested a lot at the beginning of this year thinking bitcoin would have risen again as usual, I bought many btc when it was 830 and some after when it was 660. I waited for the pump but things are getting bad. I am wo4ried. I am 26 yo I am not rich and I invested a lot of my savings. I can live without, ok, but they were my savings. What should I do now? is this the end? Will bitcoin rise again at least until 830?

Hey I can sympathize you.  I've lost a lot of money in stocks before as well.  I think the thing you should do is sell as much of your holdings to get to a position you can accept losing everything.

You are stressed out because your position is too big.  The price might go up or down more.  Nobody knows.  What you know is the size of your position and how much you stand to win OR lose.  Try to think defensively out it

Ignore the pumpers here.  They are perma bulls.  They don't care about your money.  I have no position so I don't care if price of bitcoin goes up or down.  I just don't like to see people get suckered into a pyramid/ pump & dump

you post 700 x in a pyramid scheme forum ?
the minds of those who are capable of such behaviour are a complete mystery to me.

Edit: typo
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1008
Delusional crypto obsessionist
August 18, 2014, 03:50:01 PM
#73
As people are telling you, keep faith and come back in two to five months.
It will be better and you will be smiling that you went through the worst low ever.
Next time don't invest most of your money in a high-risk speculative currency it will make you sleep way better.

Why won't it go to $0 and why will it come back better than ever
 - We all have invested a lot in Bitcoin there are also people who bought at $1200.
 - Shitloads of people have mining contracts and want an ROI.
 - Wallstreet and ETFs are ready to launch.
 - Major retailers are investing in Bitcoin adoption.
 - Technology is sound and uncrackable.
 - We've been through 40 China bans, an Exchange failure (MtGOX) and several scandals.
 - ATMs popping up.
 - Official regulations on Bitcoin.
 - etc....

If Bitcoin is going to die then it will not be now.
Bullshit.
A technical flaw would be deadly instantly, no matter about any point you describe.
But hey, you can tell your grandkids that you owned some of those digital tulip bulbs and it was a hell of a time!
And if a technical flaw is not happening, we are going to the moon, it's that simple.


I understand the way you read my post Smiley
I was talking about the current situation and there are no known flaws to date.

Yes true if one was to be able to crack ECDSA or be able to reverse SHA-256 and RIPEMD160 then we would have some problems.
Even then the Bicoin client can be adapted quickly through manditory update to support a different checksum of public key signing algorithm.

Yes we currently have no proof that ECDSA is safe but hey almost all SSL, HTTPS and other security systems are based on that technology.

Other than that the Dutch Tulip craze ended after three years, Bitcoin has been here longer Smiley
I agree with most, but a flaw in bitcoin could send it to sub-zero because a lot of noobs don't understand shit of it.
I know it can be fixed, but you should agree that it would cause a big dent into crypto.
Some alt-coins will rise I guess, depending on the speed of the bitcoin fix.

I don't care about a flaw or bitcoin going to zero. I'm happy to have been a part of it.
I will hold my coins no matter what
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
August 18, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
#72
Auktion the coins and get a high bid  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 255
August 18, 2014, 03:45:00 PM
#71
hi, I invested a lot at the beginning of this year thinking bitcoin would have risen again as usual, I bought many btc when it was 830 and some after when it was 660. I waited for the pump but things are getting bad. I am wo4ried. I am 26 yo I am not rich and I invested a lot of my savings. I can live without, ok, but they were my savings. What should I do now? is this the end? Will bitcoin rise again at least until 830?
>investing life savings
>investing once it's mainstream


How does it feel being dumb money?



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Will bitcoin rise again at least until 830?
Go ask fortune teller. Will chip fall on black?

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You haven't lost anything at this point until you sell your BTC. hold onto them.
But he has. Do you know what "unrealised losses" are?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265
August 18, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
#70
As people are telling you, keep faith and come back in two to five months.
It will be better and you will be smiling that you went through the worst low ever.
Next time don't invest most of your money in a high-risk speculative currency it will make you sleep way better.

Why won't it go to $0 and why will it come back better than ever
 - We all have invested a lot in Bitcoin there are also people who bought at $1200.
 - Shitloads of people have mining contracts and want an ROI.
 - Wallstreet and ETFs are ready to launch.
 - Major retailers are investing in Bitcoin adoption.
 - Technology is sound and uncrackable.
 - We've been through 40 China bans, an Exchange failure (MtGOX) and several scandals.
 - ATMs popping up.
 - Official regulations on Bitcoin.
 - etc....

If Bitcoin is going to die then it will not be now.
Bullshit.
A technical flaw would be deadly instantly, no matter about any point you describe.
But hey, you can tell your grandkids that you owned some of those digital tulip bulbs and it was a hell of a time!
And if a technical flaw is not happening, we are going to the moon, it's that simple.


I understand the way you read my post Smiley
I was talking about the current situation and there are no known flaws to date.

Yes true if one was to be able to crack ECDSA or be able to reverse SHA-256 and RIPEMD160 then we would have some problems.
Even then the Bicoin client can be adapted quickly through manditory update to support a different checksum of public key signing algorithm.

Yes we currently have no proof that ECDSA is safe but hey almost all SSL, HTTPS and other security systems are based on that technology.

Other than that the Dutch Tulip craze ended after three years, Bitcoin has been here longer Smiley
full member
Activity: 146
Merit: 100
August 18, 2014, 03:19:12 PM
#69
i think u should keep waiting, it will go up.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1008
Delusional crypto obsessionist
August 18, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
#68
As people are telling you, keep faith and come back in two to five months.
It will be better and you will be smiling that you went through the worst low ever.
Next time don't invest most of your money in a high-risk speculative currency it will make you sleep way better.

Why won't it go to $0 and why will it come back better than ever
 - We all have invested a lot in Bitcoin there are also people who bought at $1200.
 - Shitloads of people have mining contracts and want an ROI.
 - Wallstreet and ETFs are ready to launch.
 - Major retailers are investing in Bitcoin adoption.
 - Technology is sound and uncrackable.
 - We've been through 40 China bans, an Exchange failure (MtGOX) and several scandals.
 - ATMs popping up.
 - Official regulations on Bitcoin.
 - etc....

If Bitcoin is going to die then it will not be now.
Bullshit.
A technical flaw would be deadly instantly, no matter about any point you describe.
But hey, you can tell your grandkids that you owned some of those digital tulip bulbs and it was a hell of a time!
And if a technical flaw is not happening, we are going to the moon, it's that simple.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1008
Delusional crypto obsessionist
August 18, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
#67
hi, I invested a lot at the beginning of this year thinking bitcoin would have risen again as usual, I bought many btc when it was 830 and some after when it was 660. I waited for the pump but things are getting bad. I am wo4ried. I am 26 yo I am not rich and I invested a lot of my savings. I can live without, ok, but they were my savings. What should I do now? is this the end? Will bitcoin rise again at least until 830?
Without poor people there are no rich.
You choose on what side you want to end.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265
August 18, 2014, 03:10:41 PM
#66
As people are telling you, keep faith and come back in two to five months.
It will be better and you will be smiling that you went through the worst low ever.
Next time don't invest most of your money in a high-risk speculative currency it will make you sleep way better.

Why won't it go to $0 and why will it come back better than ever
 - We all have invested a lot in Bitcoin there are also people who bought at $1200.
 - Shitloads of people have mining contracts and want an ROI.
 - Wallstreet and ETFs are ready to launch.
 - Major retailers are investing in Bitcoin adoption.
 - Technology is sound and uncrackable.
 - We've been through 40 China bans, an Exchange failure (MtGOX) and several scandals.
 - ATMs popping up.
 - Official regulations on Bitcoin.
 - etc....

If Bitcoin is going to die then it will not be now.

We are currently in the bear trap / dispair phase. You will feel the need to sell but don't give in.
It might go to $100 but once it comes back it will go way further than ever before. (we hope Smiley)

Cheer up and have a beer (or 5)!!!!!

P.S. We are all in this shithole together so as long as this forum has members you are not alone.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
August 18, 2014, 03:08:37 PM
#65
you say your 26...

do you imagine yourself investing some savings into bitcoin ever again?

if so you did good this year, try not to let the FUD of the moment get to you.

full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
August 18, 2014, 02:59:13 PM
#64
Selling now would be a mistake unless you need the funds in the short term.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
August 18, 2014, 02:55:43 PM
#63
Your looses huh? Fuck you. Welcome to ignore.

A shining example of the critical thinking skills of the bulltards on this forum. "You disagree with my investment strategy? Fuck you, man!!1"

That is obviously not what he's saying fuck you about. He's saying fuck you cuz you are fallings stupid ass twin, looses is not the word you're looking for, but you still don't understand this. Depsite making the mistake countless times over multiple accounts, Cuz you're stupid.

QFT.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
August 18, 2014, 02:49:49 PM
#62
Your looses huh? Fuck you. Welcome to ignore.

A shining example of the critical thinking skills of the bulltards on this forum. "You disagree with my investment strategy? Fuck you, man!!1"

That is obviously not what he's saying fuck you about. He's saying fuck you cuz you are fallings stupid ass twin, looses is not the word you're looking for, but you still don't understand this. Depsite making the mistake countless times over multiple accounts, Cuz you're stupid.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
August 18, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
#61
You often can tell good advices from bad ones from the simple fact that the latters comes almost always with insults or fear inducing clues like "cut losses now or lose everything".
Good advices are seldom trying to force you do anything but rather try to reason you by means of logic.


 You don't know the good advice from the bad until it is too late.


Tell that to the OP. He's in panic and about to sell.

 Okay.  Hey Impross88!
  Dai nemici mi guardo io, dagli amici mi guardi id dio!


translation CUT YOUR LOOSE
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
August 18, 2014, 02:29:40 PM
#60
You often can tell good advices from bad ones from the simple fact that the latters comes almost always with insults or fear inducing clues like "cut losses now or lose everything".
Good advices are seldom trying to force you do anything but rather try to reason you by means of logic.


 You don't know the good advice from the bad until it is too late.


Tell that to the OP. He's in panic and about to sell.

 Okay.  Hey Impross88!
  Dai nemici mi guardo io, dagli amici mi guardi id dio!
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
August 18, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
#59
Impros88,
     What comes through your post is the anguish and panic.  This is the cause of every bad decision.
Here's something that might ease your fears:
"+ 6 addresses greater than 1000 BTC
Yesterday they took the opportunity to accumulate."
from
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441336.160
The super duper bitcoin bad boys are long and going longer. 
Does that tell you something?

 I doubt it tells him anything.  He doesn't know the basics of investing or he wouldn't have bet the farm.  Long and short are advanced terms...

legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
dafar consulting
August 18, 2014, 01:20:18 PM
#58
hi, I invested a lot at the beginning of this year thinking bitcoin would have risen again as usual, I bought many btc when it was 830 and some after when it was 660. I waited for the pump but things are getting bad. I am wo4ried. I am 26 yo I am not rich and I invested a lot of my savings. I can live without, ok, but they were my savings. What should I do now? is this the end? Will bitcoin rise again at least until 830?

If you sell now, you lose.

You haven't lost anything at this point until you sell your BTC. hold onto them.
Wait for the market to bounce. A lot of market manipulation going on right now.
Part of me thinks this is to shake out the weak hands before the next pump.

i pray God things are as you say. I hold on so far but now things are getting serious. Months passed and I have only lost money. My idea at the beginning was optimistic, I said, in late 2013 it went down, in 2014 it will, it has to rise again, as usual. But so far, I was wrong.
I can tell you, I invested more than 80% of all I had. If my parents knew that... I would be in serious trouble. Part of it was their present for my 18 years and for my university studies.

MRKLYE gave you the best advice. I would not panic yet if I were you. You can sell now at a loss if you believe we are going to $0 and this is the beginning of the end for bitcoin. No one really knows to be honest. But it seems like your mood/confidence on bitcoin is going with the flow of whatever the general sentiment is. What has changed (besides price) since you bought bitcoin? There are still a lot of developments and plans in queue, and we may not see anything positive price wise until next year. Didn't you think there would be a risk to this investment? We are seeing the risk now... everything looks bleak and general confidence is low. Will you fold now and take the loss? Or are you going to accept this risk and have a chance at making your money back + more... even if it takes 1-2 years?


Also, dude you are 18.... losing a few grand is not a big deal. If you were married with kids used up 80% of your savings.. then I'd be worried. I have lost over $15,000 investing in stock market / crypto since 2008.... no fucks given. But a part of me says that I will eventually make it up with bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
August 18, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
#57
Tell your family you're a failure who lost all this money on magic internet shit, then kill your kids, your wife, and then finally yourself to ensure the cycle of stupidity ends with your line.

 Cheesy   Lost your shirt did ya?

NM: Turns out you're just another buttcoin/somethingawful loser.   Remember when you guys were relevant? Me neither.

I suppose at least to our benefit you're so shitty at trolling that we don't even have to guess if you are or not. 

Thank-god for ignore.
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