What the Heck Do Gamblers Mean By this Phrase

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 20, 2024, 09:10:31 AM

I've always been puzzled by this phrase, "the flow of the cards". I've heard it from serious gamblers, but I've never really gotten the chance to ask them what it actually means. I am therefore turning to you guys to ask, what the do gamblers mean when they say it?

*The context for the phrase in which it is used is blackjack.

A superstition belief about how the flow of the cards can affect their winnings and honestly, I’ve heard this a lot too and I don’t think there’s a dip meaning about this, probably they are just trying to convince themselves about the possible next card that they can get since it can be a flow of good cards that can be good for them.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 20, 2024, 09:10:31 AM

I've always been puzzled by this phrase, "the flow of the cards". I've heard it from serious gamblers, but I've never really gotten the chance to ask them what it actually means. I am therefore turning to you guys to ask, what the do gamblers mean when they say it?

*The context for the phrase in which it is used is blackjack.

Could be one of either things:

1. Gamblers' superstition about the "flow of cards", and how their luck could circumvent events that would lead to either winning or losing games, thanks to this otherwise arbitrary shit.
2. Gamblers' understanding that the cards do not follow any form of pattern, and that the randomness of it is what's either going to hand them the win, basically letting math and the whole entropy of the universe do its thing

One of these are definitely a healthy way to approach the game, the other a bit more toxic as it gives you the false impression that you're going to win games, long as you follow a certain pattern which in reality is something that doesn't even exist in the first place.

Did you know that there are more possible permutations of card order in a 52-card deck such as the ones played in blackjack, than stars in the universe? That alone should paint the slightest impression that no amount of sleuthing's gonna give you an upper advantage, especially when you're banking on a certain pattern or trend of cards to come up.

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Quote from: dimonstration on April 20, 2024, 09:33:42 AM

Can you give the context for this phrase because it varies on the game it was use. In blackjack, We use flow of card as the predetermined result if there’s no changes on the seat playing on the table.

For example, You are destined to lose x10 if there will be no other player joined since the cards is arranged the way it is. So we usually destroy the flow of card when we are experiencing losing streak by adding 1 seat or more so that the card distribution will change.

Quote from: o48o on April 20, 2024, 09:42:04 AM

I don't think that's really generic gamblers who do that but specific gamblers that are counting cards in blackjack. And that would mean disturbance when you are count the cards, or change in counting conditions. Like when more players entering into the game in the middle could distrurb the "flow of cards". I never asked specifics, but i knew a card counter, and what i picked up is he used that term when ever composition of rest of the cards become unfavorable for his scheme.

So I read all of the replies and it served as a based to conduct my homework on the term. I didn't just want to jump into Google that's why I first sought for answers here. dimonstration and o48o explanation are consistent with what I would later find in my research about the phrase on the internet and in blackjack forums particularly. When there is no changes or disturbance, there is said to be a positive flow of the cards. I am not a pro blackjack player but I think that people who jump around and try to disturb or change the flow, shouldn't be allowed at the table. Is this possible?

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I'm not sure about the meaning of this phrase to the other gamblers or other place but in my country or in me I'm using this phrase and for me the meaning of this is that letting the flow of the card decide your fate, meaning in black jack the card is your key to win in a match and if you will not trust your card then you most likely to lose the game.

And also trust the process of the game so that you can attract a good card and win the match, whenever I play card games it is very important on what card you will pull and what ever it is its up to you on how will you make use of it, that's why you will need to go with the flow of the cards, not that you will follow what you want, make use of the cards you have in order to win.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on April 20, 2024, 07:00:55 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 20, 2024, 12:16:36 PM

Basically it means that the cards are running good for you. Like in poker when the cards are flowing, means you have been winning alot playing any 2 cards.

Thank you for providing the meaning. I was actually going to ask someone because I don't know either what card flow means in gambling. I am only hearing this today and nice I saw the meaning from your comment.

Tbh, it's a popular line or qoute of some veteran gamblers here in our country which is I think the real meaning is they are having a good flow or pattern of winning cards and it's a good thing for them to continue on what they are doing because it can lead them to more winnings. There are so many simple qoutes about positive outcome in gambling with a deep meaning.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 22, 2024, 12:27:12 AM

It's a kind of approach to the game. I believe there's nothing much about it. It might not be superstition really, but it is borderline that. It's a practice that's not really logical. It's a myth, even a complete nonsense. And it doesn't just apply to blackjack. It applies to other games as well.

Some blackjack players even like it solo so that nobody would interrupt the damn flow of the cards. Some in a table with a group of players prevent other players from joining because they might disrupt the flow. Some don't agree with you hitting because it destroys the flow.

Well, to each his own. But this to me is plain rubbish. Respect to those who play blackjack and other games seriously but stop making a religion out of a gambling game. That's absurdity!

It is. People who earn money, either because they have an edge in skilled games or because they are casinos as it happens today in BJ with several decks and continous shuffling know that this is bullshit, and it seems unbelievable that with the information that is out there people still believe in these superstitions, but it is what it is.

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It's a kind of approach to the game. I believe there's nothing much about it. It might not be superstition really, but it is borderline that. It's a practice that's not really logical. It's a myth, even a complete nonsense. And it doesn't just apply to blackjack. It applies to other games as well.

Some blackjack players even like it solo so that nobody would interrupt the damn flow of the cards. Some in a table with a group of players prevent other players from joining because they might disrupt the flow. Some don't agree with you hitting because it destroys the flow.

Well, to each his own. But this to me is plain rubbish. Respect to those who play blackjack and other games seriously but stop making a religion out of a gambling game. That's absurdity!

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 20, 2024, 10:41:27 AM

That is like "winning patterns", just my personal opinion since I've never encountered people talking like this.
But whatever it means or something it weighs a lot but there is one thing we know for sure that card games are pure luck-based games. Some gamblers may say there is a card trick but I don't think this happens in casinos as they are protecting their reputation.

We never hear this phrase often because this never meant anything serious. It is probably just in the mind of a gambler who believes what it means for them. Because for me, I gamble without thinking about cheating or anything, I am just focus on what I'm doing.

Yes, it’s the same thing in my mind. If you happen to hit a perfect flow of your cards, then your chances to be in profits is high. Although blackjack itself is not just all about luck but math and statistics as well, that’s why if you are good in securing the right flow of your cards, in no time you will hit an edge over the casino, and that makes you profitable with your cards.

However, I believe this phrase can also be applied to any games in casino. Most especially to those games that mostly covered by luck, as it’s what most gambling games are.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 20, 2024, 09:10:31 AM

I've always been puzzled by this phrase, "the flow of the cards". I've heard it from serious gamblers, but I've never really gotten the chance to ask them what it actually means. I am therefore turning to you guys to ask, what the do gamblers mean when they say it?

*The context for the phrase in which it is used is blackjack.

Maybe what he means is that if the cards in the games that are played are always good and give you a win most of the time, you should just continue betting on the cards that always come out. Although I'm not sure what I'm saying,.

The aforementioned is also a bit parabolic; you can also go along with what the card you choose wants to convey, as if it wants to emphasize what it says.

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It's kinda funny, but many people that gamble kinda believe in supernatural ends to their playing. It's only natural then that you'll hear phrases from them that make zero to no sense like this one.

Well, it's a luck based game in any case so one way or the other it doesn't matter all that much. If people believe that they have a supernatural way of handling their luck, it doesn't make a difference. It's still gonna be random and result are still gonna be irrelevant to any superstitious thing that happens. Ofc during the course of a certain timespan some people are going to be more lucky than others. But in the long run, those praying to have a better "flow of cards" are gonna go bust more often at certain times too. Cheesy

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Quote from: entertheabyss on April 20, 2024, 11:05:59 PM

Quote from: jossiel on April 20, 2024, 07:05:13 PM

I didn't heard that before but as they've said, it has something to do with your hands and cards. As yahoo explained it well, in poker they call it 'good hand'.

While for blackjack, wherever you have heard it means the same thing.

It doesn't sound bad if you haven't heard it before and that's what it is to me, nothing negative but only positive and well explained there by other buddies.

This particular phrases are mostly used by top gamblers and I've come acrossed such context several times but It was within the desirable sector of gambling news and trends. Don't ever run into sectors you know nothing about, because the heavy losses are generated based on the activities engaged without appropriate clue. You seem to have a good knowledge of what's coming and we should prepared ourselves to know the crucial information in the system.

Wow, so it has been there for so long and despite that many have been long time gamblers and heard this the time including me is that this is specific on some sectors that probably I haven't known.

But it's fine if it's with these words and phrases as there's nothing to lose if you know nothing or a lot with them. And I do agree with you that someone should just stay to what they know.

Anyway, the thread seems long already and the explanation for this phrase has been answered already. I think it'll be great if some other phrases will be added and consolidate the thread into "gambling phrases".

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As has been said, it is another way of talking about "streaks", about the "luck" you are having with the cards. I put both words in quotes because streaks are not really something that happens but concepts that we use to understand series of independent mathematical events, in the same way that we talk about luck depending on whether those series of events favor us or not.

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Quote from: jossiel on April 20, 2024, 07:05:13 PM

I didn't heard that before but as they've said, it has something to do with your hands and cards. As yahoo explained it well, in poker they call it 'good hand'.

While for blackjack, wherever you have heard it means the same thing.

It doesn't sound bad if you haven't heard it before and that's what it is to me, nothing negative but only positive and well explained there by other buddies.

This particular phrases are mostly used by top gamblers and I've come acrossed such context several times but It was within the desirable sector of gambling news and trends. Don't ever run into sectors you know nothing about, because the heavy losses are generated based on the activities engaged without appropriate clue. You seem to have a good knowledge of what's coming and we should prepared ourselves to know the crucial information in the system.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 20, 2024, 09:10:31 AM

I've always been puzzled by this phrase, "the flow of the cards". I've heard it from serious gamblers, but I've never really gotten the chance to ask them what it actually means. I am therefore turning to you guys to ask, what the do gamblers mean when they say it?

*The context for the phrase in which it is used is blackjack.

"The flow of the cards" in blackjack refers to the perceived pattern or sequence in which the cards are dealt. Some gamblers believe that there are certain streaks or rhythms to how the cards come out, influencing their decisions and betting strategies. Essentially, it's about feeling the game's momentum and adjusting one's play accordingly.

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I didn't heard that before but as they've said, it has something to do with your hands and cards. As yahoo explained it well, in poker they call it 'good hand'.

While for blackjack, wherever you have heard it means the same thing.

It doesn't sound bad if you haven't heard it before and that's what it is to me, nothing negative but only positive and well explained there by other buddies.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 20, 2024, 12:16:36 PM

Basically it means that the cards are running good for you. Like in poker when the cards are flowing, means you have been winning alot playing any 2 cards.

Thank you for providing the meaning. I was actually going to ask someone because I don't know either what card flow means in gambling. I am only hearing this today and nice I saw the meaning from your comment.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 20, 2024, 09:10:31 AM

I've always been puzzled by this phrase, "the flow of the cards". I've heard it from serious gamblers, but I've never really gotten the chance to ask them what it actually means. I am therefore turning to you guys to ask, what the do gamblers mean when they say it?

*The context for the phrase in which it is used is blackjack.

Well am not surprised i don't really know this phrase since am not really a blackjack fan or player. But I do know that there are quite a few terminologies that do exists in the gambling world and if am not mistaken some other games like soccer and basketball too has theirs and if it was any of these then maybe I would have been clued to have an idea about it.

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I've never seen anything like that before... It's certain that some set of gamblers could conjoin some words to best describe their outcome/performance. I don't really know much about poker games though.

Lemme try to guess; I think you got this word from the chat lobby or something? It could mean a stance where multiple cards regroup - more like a jackpot...yeah! Otherwise, a quick Google search would save your ass!
Why's everyone saying almost the same thing? There's nothing superstitious about the word in the OP.

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Quote from: PX-Z on April 20, 2024, 12:46:48 PM

I guess it's a superstitions of being a lucky with cards, or as someone said the card counting. As you will know it's flow in every shuffle of cards.

I find superstitions believes to be the weirdest thing a gambler can ever conceive in his heart. I have always held this strong belief but they are no supernatural forces in support or against gambling.

There are no lucks in card games. There are only skills, years of experience, tactical strategies that are involved in card game. Anyone depending on lock has already feeled before the gambling starts.

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In essence it is a term that comes from hip-hop slang, its meaning derives from a situation of a guy who is having a good time, who has style.

Then that applied to BJ jargon, for example, means that the game is in your favor, and that the cards are giving you "luck", that winning style.

In my case it is used to say that the guy is not really good, but rather it is the cards that have that flow. BJ requires talent and sometimes some players look like they have it but it is the "flow" of the cards, or the deck.

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