What the Return of Satoshi (aka Craig Wright) really means? - page 2.

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Quote from: keepdoing on December 11, 2015, 09:02:38 PM

Quote from: chek2fire on December 11, 2015, 07:22:11 PM

Wright is a scammer. Even his "supercomputer" it seems to be fake.. Tongue

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sgi-denies-links-with-alleged-bitcoin-founder-craig-wright/#oo

Direct Quote from Article, directly quoting the SGI EVP:

""SGI has no record of the CO1N supercomputer ever being purchased or serviced from SGI, therefore SGI suspects it may have been purchased on the grey market."

That's a far cry from saying it doesn't exist. Of course it exists - the ownership records are public domain, as it the record in the Top 500. Bloody Idiots.

I can assure you that as a person who has sold grey market SGI, this is not uncommon. Not quite as common as selling used laptops on Craigslist, but really no different in the end. I think what we really get out of this is that there is a rather concerted effort to ignore the obvious, in favor of simple mass media hypnosis. Ok, everyone bleat in unison, "Baaahhhhh". ROFL.

There are so many competing forces that benefit from Craig/~~Satoshi~~ not being a known entity, capable of throwing out potentially disrupting ideas. And there is Craig/~~Satoshi~~ himself..... I imagine he might appreciate being able to hide in the grey area. My guess is that in time he might see it differently.

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/544431/how-to-spot-bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto/?tf=0#oo

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Quote from: keepdoing on December 11, 2015, 09:02:38 PM

Quote from: chek2fire on December 11, 2015, 07:22:11 PM

Wright is a scammer. Even his "supercomputer" it seems to be fake.. Tongue

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sgi-denies-links-with-alleged-bitcoin-founder-craig-wright/#oo

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Quote from: chek2fire on December 11, 2015, 07:22:11 PM

Wright is a scammer. Even his "supercomputer" it seems to be fake.. Tongue

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sgi-denies-links-with-alleged-bitcoin-founder-craig-wright/#oo

Direct Quote from Article, directly quoting the SGI EVP:

""SGI has no record of the CO1N supercomputer ever being purchased or serviced from SGI, therefore SGI suspects it may have been purchased on the grey market."

That's a far cry from saying it doesn't exist. Of course it exists - the ownership records are public domain, as it the record in the Top 500. Bloody Idiots.

I can assure you that as a person who has sold grey market SGI, this is not uncommon. Not quite as common as selling used laptops on Craigslist, but really no different in the end. I think what we really get out of this is that there is a rather concerted effort to ignore the obvious, in favor of simple mass media hypnosis. Ok, everyone bleat in unison, "Baaahhhhh". ROFL.

There are so many competing forces that benefit from Craig/~~Satoshi~~ not being a known entity, capable of throwing out potentially disrupting ideas. And there is Craig/~~Satoshi~~ himself..... I imagine he might appreciate being able to hide in the grey area. My guess is that in time he might see it differently.

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There was never a return of satoshi. We are all satoshi Grin

I don't think it will change anything. Maybe it will drive the price up, as people will trust bitcoin. Satoshi isn't really that important right now. He created bitcoin, but he note has no hand in it.

Overall, satoshi is overrated.

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Quote from: chek2fire on December 11, 2015, 07:22:11 PM

Wright is a scammer. Even his "supercomputer" it seems to be fake.. Tongue

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sgi-denies-links-with-alleged-bitcoin-founder-craig-wright/#oo

Not only this, but it seems some of the stuff in his resume was also fake, as reported in the new update by mashable.com, apparently he isn't even a Dr.

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UPDATE: Friday, Dec. 11, 4:24 p.m.: Charles Sturt University denies some of Craig Wright's claims regarding his education at the university, including that he completed a thesis.

http://mashable.com/2015/12/10/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-craig-wright/#rYl7EY79JSqQ

This is absolutely outrageous.

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Wright is a scammer. Even his "supercomputer" it seems to be fake.. Tongue

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sgi-denies-links-with-alleged-bitcoin-founder-craig-wright/#oo

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Quote from: keepdoing on December 11, 2015, 11:47:12 AM

Quote from: Denker on December 11, 2015, 06:33:18 AM

This whole thread is needless!
As long as Craig Wright doesn't proove that he is Satoshi, sign with his keys, move part form the first coins, there's absolutely no reason to talk what a return of Satoshi could mean.
I personally believe that guy is nothing more thana big scam artist!It's all just bla bla bla and no really hard true evidence so far!

But the concept of this whole thread really doesn't have anything to do with Satoshi.

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What the Return of Satoshi (aka Craig Wright) really means?

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Quote from: Denker on December 11, 2015, 06:33:18 AM

This whole thread is needless!
As long as Craig Wright doesn't proove that he is Satoshi, sign with his keys, move part form the first coins, there's absolutely no reason to talk what a return of Satoshi could mean.
I personally believe that guy is nothing more thana big scam artist!It's all just bla bla bla and no really hard true evidence so far!

But the concept of this whole thread really doesn't have anything to do with Satoshi. It has to do with revelations made by Craig, thathave not only not been disproven, they have been PROVED:

a) Operates a Supercomputer (15th/17th in world); also teaches Supercomputing Programming; the Supercomputer is engaged in Bitcoin Modeling
B) Has a lot of bitcoins, and plans to start Bitcoin Bank
C) Implies advanced knowledge of Coding / Machine Code / Turing capability in Bitcoin
D) Says he is soon to release papers

All of the above are facts totally unrelated to the issue of proof regarding whether he is or is not Satoshi (although he probably is part of Satoshi)

So.... I personally believe you that what you believe (that being an approach of dismissive I am putting my head in the sand as to all facts because they threaten my safe conceptual cocoon) is irrelevant. ppppppppppppppp

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This whole thread is needless!
As long as Craig Wright doesn't proove that he is Satoshi, sign with his keys, move part form the first coins, there's absolutely no reason to talk what a return of Satoshi could mean.
I personally believe that guy is nothing more thana big scam artist!It's all just bla bla bla and no really hard true evidence so far!

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For me, there's not enough proof that he is satoshi, I doubt he is who he claims to be.
I doubt that the real satoshi will ever come out and make it public.

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It's confirmed now (by SGI) the supercomputer doesn't exist. Everything is forged. /close

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Quote from: EvilDave on December 11, 2015, 04:09:14 AM

Back to the point: until Craig W. (or someone) comes up with proof that he has access to the Satoshi addresses containing the BTC pre/ninja/early-mine, there's nothing to see here.

Ha! this, I haven't seen any kind of prove that convinces me that this Craig guy is the original satoshi.
Ever since bitcoin became to be, the people who adapted to it, the people who keep bitcoin alive, are satoshi.

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Back to the point: until Craig W. (or someone) comes up with proof that he has access to the Satoshi addresses containing the BTC pre/ninja/early-mine, there's nothing to see here.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 10, 2015, 09:27:24 PM

Quote from: keepdoing on December 10, 2015, 09:25:46 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 10, 2015, 08:33:18 PM

If he claims it's him, the burden of proof is on him. If you claim it's him, the burden is on your shoulders, sir.

Sarcasm isn't funny. Try to be more funny.

I can't resist the temptation, so I will now mathematically prove that what I believe is absolutely 100% Mathematical Certainty.

I believe with all of my heart, and all of my soul, and every fiber of my being that either.....

Craig = Satoshi
...or...
Craig does NOT = Satoshi

I believe with certainty BOTH things to be possible.

When you combine the two individual suppositions, you end up with both as possibilities.

i.e...... 1 + 1 = 2

Perfect & Pure Mathematical PROOF beyond all reasonable doubt that MY belief in the identity of Craig as Satoshi is correct.

And you admit that sarcasm isn't funny?

Sarcasm is a floating variable, so your hypothesis is nonsense.

For example, if 1 = Sarcasm; 5 = Funny; 8 = Not Funny

Then sarcasm is hilarious in the context of 1+4 = 5, but not so much when you add sarcasm with 7.

And then, you have people that simply can't comprehend/recognize odd numbers. Sort of a humoristic dyslexia.

Personally I'd give this one a 10

Double the Fun!!

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Quote from: keepdoing on December 10, 2015, 09:25:46 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 10, 2015, 08:33:18 PM

If he claims it's him, the burden of proof is on him. If you claim it's him, the burden is on your shoulders, sir.

Sarcasm isn't funny. Try to be more funny.

I can't resist the temptation, so I will now mathematically prove that what I believe is absolutely 100% Mathematical Certainty.

I believe with all of my heart, and all of my soul, and every fiber of my being that either.....

Craig = Satoshi
...or...
Craig does NOT = Satoshi

I believe with certainty BOTH things to be possible.

When you combine the two individual suppositions, you end up with both as possibilities.

i.e...... 1 + 1 = 2

Perfect & Pure Mathematical PROOF beyond all reasonable doubt that MY belief in the identity of Craig as Satoshi is correct.

And you admit that sarcasm isn't funny?

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 10, 2015, 08:33:18 PM

If he claims it's him, the burden of proof is on him. If you claim it's him, the burden is on your shoulders, sir.

Sarcasm isn't funny. Try to be more funny.

I can't resist the temptation, so I will now mathematically prove that what I believe is absolutely 100% Mathematical Certainty.

I believe with all of my heart, and all of my soul, and every fiber of my being that either.....

Craig = Satoshi
...or...
Craig does NOT = Satoshi

I believe with certainty BOTH things to be possible.

When you combine the two individual suppositions, you end up with both as possibilities.

i.e...... 1 + 1 = 2

Perfect & Pure Mathematical PROOF beyond all reasonable doubt that MY belief in the identity of Craig as Satoshi is correct.

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If he claims it's him, the burden of proof is on him. If you claim it's him, the burden is on your shoulders, sir.

Sarcasm isn't funny. Try to be more funny.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on December 10, 2015, 05:52:25 PM

This is a pretty good read.

Quote from: theymos on December 10, 2015, 04:57:11 PM

Quote from: achow101_alt on December 10, 2015, 04:28:37 PM

I didn't check the headers, so I didn't notice this. That is very convincing that it is not Satoshi. But how can that domain name be spoofed? Does the sender set that name or is it done by the receiving server?

Here's apparently the person who sent it, explaining how he did it.

In SMTP (the email protocol), you start your connection by saying who you are via a command like HELO bitcointalk.org ("hello, I'm bitcointalk.org"). Most servers will then check that the IP address you're connecting from actually matches the hostname you give, and if not will immediately drop the connection. But the mailing list's server is apparently really stupid, and just blindly believes that any given hostname is actually accurate. So you could tell it HELO whitehouse.gov and the server will believe that you're whitehouse.gov. Or whatever.

Well, yes. But what does it prove?

Does it prove it ws a total hoax email by an unknown 3rd party (not Satoshi and not Craig)?
NO - it does not.

Does it prove that Satoshi wrote it?
NO - it does not.

Does it prove Craig wrote it?
NO - it does not.

Does it prove that Craig wrote it, intentionally as a fake, knowing it was a fake, knowing it would be spotted as a fake, hoping people would then stop looking at him?
NO - it does not.

Does it prove that Satoshi wrote it, intentionally as a fake, knowing it was a fake, knoing it would be spotted as a fake, hoping people would then stop looking period?
NO - it does not.

Does it prove Craig = Satoshi?
NO - it does not.

Does it prove Craig does Not = Satoshi?
NO - it does not.

What have we proved?
Nothing.

Whew! This is a smart group! And they use their time so wisely!

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