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That these casinos survived in a Muslim-majority country was actually a miracle. Well, they had a good run, it's expected that it's illegal based on Islamic law and that eventually someone would implement the law.

Maybe Bangladesh can keep the casinos solely for tourists though I don't really see Bangladesh as a tourist destination unlike Malaysia and Indonesia that allows foreign nationals to gamble in their country. Existing casino operators can probably just move their businesses online (which could still be illegal depending on how the law is worded) or worst case scenario, they'll have to move operations outside Bangladesh.
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We are talking about a world that has found its legal ways no matter where they went, they are doing business with a place called curacao or whatever that I have never heard before until I started gambling, which means no matter what type of ban they will try to do eventually there will be online casinos. Maybe it will be illegal to play on online casinos, maybe it will be illegal to have online casinos but there will be people who break those rules and still gamble no matter what.

Hence, there is no way to stop gambling, hell even right now there are thousands of people illegally gambling from countries that's illegal, so that won't change if it becomes illegal for everyone. Sure there will be less people gambling but there will still be some people.
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Well many casinos know that VPNs can help players from prohibited countries to play but that doesn't mean that players are "safe" because even VPNs can be tracked and if the government wants, it can track it as well! The gambling sites encourage those players to play via VPN but they won't take responsibility if the player gets prosecuted Wink

At least, if we want to use a VPN, we need to make sure to use only a recommended VPN and tried to be their Premium Members. By being the Premium Members, we have many options of IP that we can use to hide our IP. I think that will not make the government suspicious, especially if we don't use big money to gamble. And perhaps, the ISP provider will not track our activity too. As long as we know how to use a VPN properly, then that will be no problem for us.
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Well many casinos know that VPNs can help players from prohibited countries to play but that doesn't mean that players are "safe" because even VPNs can be tracked and if the government wants, it can track it as well! The gambling sites encourage those players to play via VPN but they won't take responsibility if the player gets prosecuted Wink

Had you guys heard of ToR recent hack? And it has been years that those guys are terrorizing our privacy without a single hint thay they attack us.

Check it out here.
https://www.facebook.com/404460532994922/posts/2509439352497019/

So yeah, even VPN now isn't safe and if you think you defied the site, think twice, maybe it is you who are being defied by hackers.
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.
Online gambling is not easy to detect by the government, they continue to operate or partners in other country that are allowed to operate gambling businesses usually business minded people knows what to do in scenarios that they are ban. There are tons of gambling sites now. I wonder if its ban in their country too.
yups that's how online gambling operators do for keeping them safe from the laws of the countries that they are living
because gamblers can play thru VPN also to prevent the government interceptions

but i believe this topic is about real Life casino's and that bothers OP,maybe because he is a live player but he has no option if this rules implemented but to play Via Online

Well many casinos know that VPNs can help players from prohibited countries to play but that doesn't mean that players are "safe" because even VPNs can be tracked and if the government wants, it can track it as well! The gambling sites encourage those players to play via VPN but they won't take responsibility if the player gets prosecuted Wink
LOL! Are you serious? gambling sites doesn't encourage for those prohibited countries to play up on the site even they aren't the ones who do such blockage.
but as a player you should know the risk if someone caught you on violating your countries laws.Be prepare on consequences that you would able to face up.
For country that do restricts gambling activity then you wont have any choice but to abide with the rules if you don't like to experience problems.
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.
Online gambling is not easy to detect by the government, they continue to operate or partners in other country that are allowed to operate gambling businesses usually business minded people knows what to do in scenarios that they are ban. There are tons of gambling sites now. I wonder if its ban in their country too.
yups that's how online gambling operators do for keeping them safe from the laws of the countries that they are living
because gamblers can play thru VPN also to prevent the government interceptions

but i believe this topic is about real Life casino's and that bothers OP,maybe because he is a live player but he has no option if this rules implemented but to play Via Online

Well many casinos know that VPNs can help players from prohibited countries to play but that doesn't mean that players are "safe" because even VPNs can be tracked and if the government wants, it can track it as well! The gambling sites encourage those players to play via VPN but they won't take responsibility if the player gets prosecuted Wink
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.

Or the casino business owners can run their casino in a secret place, and only trusted people who can join with them, and they only invite people who they known before. Usually, this type of casino has wealthy members who don't want to get caught by the police, and they pay for some money to corrupt police to protect their business. I think that it has run in many countries in which gambling is prohibited, but they are free to operate the casino.

Of course the gambling site owner will continue to run a gambling business whatever the risks and rules that exist in the country. I think it's a natural thing in every country, thats why we often hear of bribery cases about the establishment of a casino. any rules will not make them afraid to close their casino, they might make a hidden casino or bribe the police to allow them to play. wherever casino and gambling are always there, whatever the rules

People do run some illegal casinos in every country as they have players around them to back as not everyone at every point of time go to country where it is legal and thus they bribe to top people which help them to run and make money from the casinos players .
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.
Online gambling is not easy to detect by the government, they continue to operate or partners in other country that are allowed to operate gambling businesses usually business minded people knows what to do in scenarios that they are ban. There are tons of gambling sites now. I wonder if its ban in their country too.
yups that's how online gambling operators do for keeping them safe from the laws of the countries that they are living
because gamblers can play thru VPN also to prevent the government interceptions

but i believe this topic is about real Life casino's and that bothers OP,maybe because he is a live player but he has no option if this rules implemented but to play Via Online
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If the propose Public Amendment of Gambling Law to BAN Casino come to pass what then will be faith of those who are benefiting from casino business related activities https://dailyasianage.com/news/199020/amendment-to-gambling-law-to-ban-casino

This articles talks about gambling laws amendments in Bangladesh & not for the world. Anyways such owners do realize that people are moving towards online betting platform, be it related to sports or simply crypto. There is a need to add differentiation to the offerings and expand their portfolio. Beside that deep discounted offers and personalized offerings can help attract crowd to the casino
legendary
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Gambling is indeed a very big industry that it made it impossible to ban in some other countries but in other countries whose religion believes that gambling is a sin then ultimately they are going to ban it because it is against their belief. If OP is worried about the banning of gambling sites or casinos in their country and he don't want to do that then might as well migrate to a country where gambling is fully legal, as simple as that. On the other note, if that law will be implemented then I think the faith of casino owners will be unfortunate and that they really have to close down.
First of all, I think the OP is wrong for only considering the fate of casino owners alone if it ever suffers permanent ban which I think it's never going to be possible. What happens to gamblers who are also beneficiaries of gambling here in the forum or the public out there?

The so called religious countries that have tried countless times to ban gambling never succeeds completely with its implementation because in one way or the order, a number of its citizens still gamble secretly which they are aware of but cannot put a stop to it. Gambling is one game that will definitely live for as long as there is an existence of earth.
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.

Or the casino business owners can run their casino in a secret place, and only trusted people who can join with them, and they only invite people who they known before. Usually, this type of casino has wealthy members who don't want to get caught by the police, and they pay for some money to corrupt police to protect their business. I think that it has run in many countries in which gambling is prohibited, but they are free to operate the casino.

And this is the problem of banning an activity instead of regulating it, casino owners will just move underground and will continue with their business despite being illegal, and while it is possible they will get caught there are many countries in which finding corrupt officials is not difficult and since they earn a lot of money with their activities it will not be difficult to bribe them.

While all of the above is wrong we know it happens and it will continue to happen as long as an activity that does not harm anyone like gambling keeps being prohibited by governments instead of imposing regulations.

First and foremost, I believe the OP is referring to 'fate' not the 'faith' of business owners. And in this regard, we already know that if a particular country will totally ban their existence, they will always find a way to thrive underground as many have others said. But this will not be in good interest of the government because they can't generate income in doing so. So I think they will just regulate gambling activities and not totally banning it. Like what the old saying goes - "If you can't beat them, join them."
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.

Or the casino business owners can run their casino in a secret place, and only trusted people who can join with them, and they only invite people who they known before. Usually, this type of casino has wealthy members who don't want to get caught by the police, and they pay for some money to corrupt police to protect their business. I think that it has run in many countries in which gambling is prohibited, but they are free to operate the casino.

And this is the problem of banning an activity instead of regulating it, casino owners will just move underground and will continue with their business despite being illegal, and while it is possible they will get caught there are many countries in which finding corrupt officials is not difficult and since they earn a lot of money with their activities it will not be difficult to bribe them.

While all of the above is wrong we know it happens and it will continue to happen as long as an activity that does not harm anyone like gambling keeps being prohibited by governments instead of imposing regulations.
The primary reason why government do banned these gambling activities is concerning on their own citizens that would got addicted with these things.

Its actually a good motive and concern because I cant think off for another possible reason of such ban but only this one but it would missed out some opportunities on
making taxation with it which would benefit out the country.

You said if these businesses were banned there would always be a tunnel below or underground and bribing is just an another normal story.
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I think if they know if their casino is illegal in their country, they must ready for something like that. In my country, gambling is prohibited and whoever play and caught, go in jail. I think they just need to follow the rules from the country.

Or the casino business owners can run their casino in a secret place, and only trusted people who can join with them, and they only invite people who they known before. Usually, this type of casino has wealthy members who don't want to get caught by the police, and they pay for some money to corrupt police to protect their business. I think that it has run in many countries in which gambling is prohibited, but they are free to operate the casino.

And this is the problem of banning an activity instead of regulating it, casino owners will just move underground and will continue with their business despite being illegal, and while it is possible they will get caught there are many countries in which finding corrupt officials is not difficult and since they earn a lot of money with their activities it will not be difficult to bribe them.

While all of the above is wrong we know it happens and it will continue to happen as long as an activity that does not harm anyone like gambling keeps being prohibited by governments instead of imposing regulations.
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You won't believe me guys

But when I read the thread title, I actually misread it as "What will be the Fate of Casino business owners?", thinking about what is going to happen to them all in the afterlife (provided there is some form of afterlife, of course). So, to rephrase the question asked (while still being on topic), are casino operators going to Hell or Heaven when their days are over here, on Earth? Are they cursed or are they in fact blessed? What is the stance of different religious doctrines on this matter (not to start holy wars)?
I just want strongly believe you are so much prepared for the holy war and I am here to start first lol. Honestly I think those people are doomed already, and no offense to anyone who is a casino owner on this humble forum or has any close relative who is a casino owner

Does that mean that Stunna is going to become the chief demon "out there"?

Or will he be just a pet boy to some really big gun whose name we don't even know (but it is still well-known to "policy makers" indeed)? However, let me play devil's advocate here (pun intended). As the saying goes (actually, it is from Luke 15:7, so no plagiarism conceived), there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Therefore, casino operators should repent immediately and give all their profit back to gamblers (well, at least some part of it to some of the gamblers). In this manner, they can save their souls and thus turn into saints (kind of)

I am sincerely not against gambling or whatsoever it represents because I am a die hard fan of this game but I hate the fact that the casino owner are only out there to extort us, sometimes I feel like going crazy when I make the calculations of all what I have lost to gambling. It is crazy and I can categorically say that the casino owners are never going to make heaven

What about redemption, really?
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They might be lucky to get away with it in under developed countries with less effective technology but in develop countries with heavy technology like China and the others, catching them is quite easy.
You maybe right, big country has ability to catch those people but in fact, people can always run away and avoid ban. As you mentioned China, let's take Bitcoin as an example. It's banned there, but the citizen still be able trade or doing some activities on crypto space. It means even big country has enough power, they just can't always do anything without thinking twice as they might face a bigger problem later.
They are even so powerful but some of their citizens never find it good, not only in China but all over the world.
Casinos would still exist even they are banned cause they know that many people would like to gamble and living to that edge, casinos owners would find a way in order to run their business illegally. This what it meant trouble in the future. Cause the more they become strick into banning gambling the more illegalities will increase.

Casino owners will still be unstoppable even if their Government banned it, we still have online casinos, they could make a gambling site of their own whenever they want to, money is not a problem to them and it will be easier for them to make one since they are already professional on this job. Government can't easily track them unless they're naive when it comes to internet.
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You won't believe me guys

But when I read the thread title, I actually misread it as "What will be the Fate of Casino business owners?", thinking about what is going to happen to them all in the afterlife (provided there is some form of afterlife, of course). So, to rephrase the question asked (while still being on topic), are casino operators going to Hell or Heaven when their days are over here, on Earth? Are they cursed or are they in fact blessed? What is the stance of different religious doctrines on this matter (not to start holy wars)?
I just want strongly believe you are so much prepared for the holy war and I am here to start first lol. Honestly I think those people are doomed already, and no offense to anyone who is a casino owner on this humble forum or has any close relative who is a casino owner.

I am sincerely not against gambling or whatsoever it represents because I am a die hard fan of this game but I hate the fact that the casino owner are only out there to extort us, sometimes I feel like going crazy when I make the calculations of all what I have lost to gambling. It is crazy and I can categorically say that the casino owners are never going to make heaven.
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They might be lucky to get away with it in under developed countries with less effective technology but in develop countries with heavy technology like China and the others, catching them is quite easy.
You maybe right, big country has ability to catch those people but in fact, people can always run away and avoid ban. As you mentioned China, let's take Bitcoin as an example. It's banned there, but the citizen still be able trade or doing some activities on crypto space. It means even big country has enough power, they just can't always do anything without thinking twice as they might face a bigger problem later.
They are even so powerful but some of their citizens never find it good, not only in China but all over the world.
Casinos would still exist even they are banned cause they know that many people would like to gamble and living to that edge, casinos owners would find a way in order to run their business illegally. This what it meant trouble in the future. Cause the more they become strick into banning gambling the more illegalities will increase.
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Online gambling is not easy to detect by the government, they continue to operate or partners in other country that are allowed to operate gambling businesses usually business minded people knows what to do in scenarios that they are ban. There are tons of gambling sites now. I wonder if its ban in their country too.
At the bold, it will be more illegal if the owner of the sites is in the country where the ban is effective but claims it is online just because they think the government can't detect them.
They might be lucky to get away with it in under developed countries with less effective technology but in develop countries with heavy technology like China and the others, catching them is quite easy.

I dont think so for that situation to be like that yet anything online can be traced up no matter how underdeveloped the country was.Also, they wont impose such gambling ban if they do know that their economy is somewhat struggling which means they would most likely to allow gambling for taxing benefits for this industry.So they wont consider on banning it but rather legalizing and allowing it.Its rare to look at such decisions which would contradict with their current economic situation.
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They might be lucky to get away with it in under developed countries with less effective technology but in develop countries with heavy technology like China and the others, catching them is quite easy.
You maybe right, big country has ability to catch those people but in fact, people can always run away and avoid ban. As you mentioned China, let's take Bitcoin as an example. It's banned there, but the citizen still be able trade or doing some activities on crypto space. It means even big country has enough power, they just can't always do anything without thinking twice as they might face a bigger problem later.
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You won't believe me guys

But when I read the thread title, I actually misread it as "What will be the Fate of Casino business owners?", thinking about what is going to happen to them all in the afterlife (provided there is some form of afterlife, of course). So, to rephrase the question asked (while still being on topic), are casino operators going to Hell or Heaven when their days are over here, on Earth? Are they cursed or are they in fact blessed? What is the stance of different religious doctrines on this matter (not to start holy wars)?
If there's any game that is quite unpredictable it should be sports betting and I am very convinced that those who assume the game is easy has very little or no knowledge of what it entails which I won't be surprised because there are too many naive gamblers that we have in the gambling industry who takes all manner of things without learning.

The most difficult games I have seen so far is gambling and making profit is out rightly impossible to be best of my knowledge. If you are participating in sports betting is sure to be doing this for pleasure but if the goal is to make money, I believe you are only preparing your mind for frustration.
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