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Topic: What will China think as they see the price of bitcoin rise after banning it? (Read 3605 times)

legendary
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BTC China just added vouchers as a funding option: http://www.vdschagt.com/btc-china-adds-voucher-funding-option/

Vouchers that can be bought on other websites for cash.

lol, How long till they ban vouchers? There's always ways around these bans.
full member
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I wouldn't have thought 'China' would think anything about this.....
sr. member
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Undeadbitcoiner Will not DIE until 1BTC=50K
BTC China just added vouchers as a funding option: http://www.vdschagt.com/btc-china-adds-voucher-funding-option/

Vouchers that can be bought on other websites for cash.

This is good news for bitcoin world, BTCChina will again raise up, Slowly Hongkong and Singapore Government are opening Bitcoin in there country so will see new all time high again bery soon.
legendary
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when btc hits 10K a coin this will be a rather public humiliation the Chinese govt is not used too, the Central govt will be seen to have tried to control something, with full central govt force only to be completely broken over the back of BTC.

Even moreso at 100K

a lot of Chinese are going be be really really upset at their govt for making hard for them to partake of this bounty.

Chinese understand one thing more than the power of the central govt and that is the power of money.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
I think they will say, "too bad, so sad, we no can have Bitcoin so we sell more junk to Walmart to get stupid American moneys".
legendary
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1) price hasn't rise
2) China hasn't banned bitcoin
hero member
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Evolution is the only way to survive
sr. member
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Do the leaders secretly acquire bitcoin while making it difficult for its citizens to acquire it?

This. The powerful always look for new ways to buttfuck the weak. And they invariably LOVE doing things they forbid the masses to do.


that would make no sense.. decrease demand for BTC, all the while investing in it?

the wealthy elite in china probably don't care enough for bitcoins. they probably prefer controlling the state to make money, instead of shaking everything up.
newbie
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I believe only the wealthy chinese and rest of the world panic sold. I believe the chinese gov invested tons and could be hoarding BTC so they can have power over the people when they unban bitcoins.

 I can see bitcoin doing another 700% in 2014. When older folks take bitcoin more seriously we can see an amazing rise from seniors when btc gains their trust here in the U.S. in a few years.
newbie
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Mr. neuroMode china will surely realize that bitcoin cannot be stopped from prospering by just placing barriers in front of it as bitcoin has the ability to break every barrier that comes in between in its success. I can see china losing at the hand of bitcoins soon.
sr. member
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Disrupt the banking system!
Long story short; prepare your fiat/btc now, because it's expected to rise substantially.
newbie
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There's another way the wealthy in China can acquire bitcoins which will impact prices, they can mine the coins themselves.  I can see the very wealthy setting up mining "factories" for the sole purpose of generating their own cache of coins.  This would make difficulty skyrocket and squeeze the ROI of miners everywhere.  Miners would hold out for higher prices which would put pricing pressure on bitcoins across all exchanges.  China is fighting a losing battle, if people want something, they'll find a way to get it.

The AMD Radeon GPU are made in China. We are even now seeing really strong competition between gamers and miners here in the U.S., selling out stocks of high end AMD cards as soon as they hit the shelves, especially the coveted MSI and ASUS R9 series cards. We see wild prices when googling for shopping these cards. It is undeniable, China can barely keep up with U.S. demand.

And I agree 1,000%, those that like bitcoin, and especially Charles Lee's Litecoin, they are going to setup mining facilities, and they have a much more direct access to AMD GPU coming out of the Chinese factories in China. GPU retailers are going to service the markets with the least cost to sell into, and that is China. Why ship the cards to the U.S. and to Europe when there is an extremely large middle, upper middle and wealthy class growing in China, with an interest, (an interest spurned by their government), in bitcoin, litecoin and CryptoCurrency in general.

The factories that produce the GPU, the chip foundries that are making the chips can barely keep up with demand pre-Christmas as we saw the most recent parabolic rally starting in December. 7950's are nowhere to be found, because the factories are re-tooling and moving forward with the R9 series. And we know the 7950 would still sell like hotcakes, but the factories can't produce them, otherwise, there would not be enough raw material to produce the R9.

So yes, again and again I agree strongly, the Chinese are going to mine, and the difficulty will be impacted, but will be held back simply because the factories cannot produce enough cards, and that will spur more buying as people who want to mine, but cannot afford the ever more expensive cards, simply capitulate into a purchase of coin using fiat where they can find that opportunity.

And let's not forget the Chinese individual selling bitcoin from their laptop, or their smartphone direct for fiat, you can be certain this is happening.

So China is still in play in many ways, most notably as they will certainly ramp up mining with the high end GPU that are much more accessible to their market.
newbie
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I'm in Hong Kong and have been to some gatherings here. I think within January or February we will hear about a partial solution to the China problem. Either because the people have found a way or because the exchanges have found a way. I know of the following ideas that are being considered by some people

- Install bitcoin ATMs in China. I'm not sure how this would be legal, but some people would think without the trading element the situation might be different
- Sell hardware (usb sticks) with bitcoin wallets on them
- Setup exchange in Special administrative zones in China, in Hong Kong or in Macau. Rules are less strict there.
- Let people buy another commodity (such as gold) and exchange the gold for bitcoins (instead of fiat currencies)

These are just some of the things I've heard. I'm by no means an expert, but it does seem the problem is being worked on.

Selling usb sticks with bitcoin wallets on them? Sounds like a typical scam in china!
member
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I'm in Hong Kong and have been to some gatherings here. I think within January or February we will hear about a partial solution to the China problem. Either because the people have found a way or because the exchanges have found a way. I know of the following ideas that are being considered by some people

- Install bitcoin ATMs in China. I'm not sure how this would be legal, but some people would think without the trading element the situation might be different
- Sell hardware (usb sticks) with bitcoin wallets on them
- Setup exchange in Special administrative zones in China, in Hong Kong or in Macau. Rules are less strict there.
- Let people buy another commodity (such as gold) and exchange the gold for bitcoins (instead of fiat currencies)

These are just some of the things I've heard. I'm by no means an expert, but it does seem the problem is being worked on.
sr. member
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Disrupt the banking system!
It will be nice once china allows banks and payment processors to start trading BTC again... anyone who buys now, basically wins.

indeed and people in China would be just acquiring it outside the exchanges at a hefty premium, so effectively the price has already skyrocketed for them

Knowing the fact that they have pretty deep pockets, I have a feeling they'll still buy it at a premium, and then charge a gigantic premium on top of that, effectively surpassing the $2k barrier.
legendary
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I wonder if they re-allow exchanges to accept deposits, will the value return to it's previous peak?
legendary
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It will be nice once china allows banks and payment processors to start trading BTC again... anyone who buys now, basically wins.

indeed and people in China would be just acquiring it outside the exchanges at a hefty premium, so effectively the price has already skyrocketed for them
sr. member
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Disrupt the banking system!
It will be nice once china allows banks and payment processors to start trading BTC again... anyone who buys now, basically wins.
full member
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Of course China is just a word which represents an organization of people so it can't really think anything. But for the people in that organization, I don't really think they will care, won't affect them. 
legendary
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China hasn't banned Bitcoin yet. Most of the coins are still going into China.
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