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Topic: What will happen in the new bullrun without the past huge power of Tether? - page 3. (Read 673 times)

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legendary
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I've read lots of articles explaining that one of the major reasons of the run to $20,000 back in 2017 was the money machine printer known as Tether (USDT). What do you think it will happen this time regarding this?

I ask based on tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Stami_/status/1115217112262483969

back in 2013 it was "the willy bot". then in 2017 it was "the tether printer". same shit, different day!

these conspiracy theories about price pumping are irrelevant. at best they could only ever catalyze latent bullishness that would have bubbled up eventually anyway. they could never sustain a pump for the better part of a year, distributed across global spot and OTC markets! what matters is that real people were paying bubble prices for sustained periods of time. and more than that, price never returned to pre-2013 and pre-2017 levels.

the people who blame tether for the 2017 bubble are mostly nocoiners who are looking for any reason to explain away the bullishness of the bitcoin market. after 10 years of bull, they're still trying. Smiley
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Today there isn't just one but many stablecoins, so there is plenty of fiat ready to be dumped into the market once traders sense the bull market is back. There is also increased institutional investment. Given how small the total market cap of cryptos is, it won't take much to pump this market past its all-time highs.
hero member
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There are many stablecoins now, so they will push btc up again. But of course USD equivalents are not the main power, as that's the cycle power that drives assets down and up.

I guess there's something you don't understand. Tether can make things easier on the road to bull rise, but it cannot be the only reason for bull rise.
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There are many stablecoins now, so they will push btc up again. But of course USD equivalents are not the main power, as that's the cycle power that drives assets down and up.
hero member
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Hi everyone,

I've read lots of articles explaining that one of the major reasons of the run to $20,000 back in 2017 was the money machine printer known as Tether (USDT). What do you think it will happen this time regarding this?

I ask based on tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Stami_/status/1115217112262483969

Thanks!

Tether was one of the most important actors in the previous season. However, this is not enough to explain the whole walk of bulls. There were many reasons for futures, FOMO and more.

There are dozens of stable coins in the market today. I'm sure we'd be over 100K right now, if Tether had caused it alone. So don't too much from Tether. Bitcoin halving is coming. 2020 May, we will experience new halving. It is more important then Tether.
sr. member
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I don't think that bitcoin goes to $ 20,000 due to USDT, 2017 bitcoin has gone up that far in my opinion because it supports good news from credit cards.
legendary
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If Tether was really used to manipulate the market (like what some reports suggest) then the next bull run should be more mature. I think even if Tether dead at that point, there's nothing to be afraid of as people can still use fiat or something similar to buy Bitcoin, which in turn still increase the price. As to what extent the next bull run will be, I can only think that it should at least touch the previous ATH.
legendary
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I differ from you in your opinion that Tether were the only driving force behind the 2017 bullrun. The emergence of ICOs had a lot to do with the big bullrun in 2017 and when they started to ban Crypto currency on popular social media, it all went back to normal.

We are now seeing a more regulated form of ICOs with the emergence of Initial Exchange Offerings (IEO) and this might trigger the start of the next bullrun, but this time it might be a bit slower than with ICOs, because the IEO process is more regulated and structured.  Tongue    Wink
legendary
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you should never believe everything you read on the internet, specially on twitter and some of these cryptocurrency focused news sites, they publish any crap they can and 90% of things you read online is pure nonsense including this thing about Tether. basically they said all the bitcoin price rise was because of Tether which doesn't even make sense because their logic is that whenever new Tether was printed price went up but new Tether has been printing all through 2018 too while bitcoin was dropping...
legendary
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What do you mean by USDT as 'money printing machine?'
Well, as you rightly point out, Tether have refused to allow an independent audit, and therefore there is no proof that they hold the assets to back up the value of Tether as being 1 USDT = 1 USD as they claim. They recently quietly changed their Terms and Conditions to state that USDT was backed up by a variety of assets and asset classes, and not just USD like they previously claimed. Given this, they could quite easily create $100 million or so USDT out of thin air, use it to buy BTC, and then they can claim that USDT is backed up by BTC.

Tether could well be essentially printing money, and since they continue to refuse an audit, there is no proof to the contrary.
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Hi everyone,

I've read lots of articles explaining that one of the major reasons of the run to $20,000 back in 2017 was the money machine printer known as Tether (USDT). What do you think it will happen this time regarding this?

I ask based on tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Stami_/status/1115217112262483969

Thanks!

The bull run back in 2017 was as a result of the credit card company involvement into bitcoin and not the Tether(USDT) that brought the bull run. We all know that; after all the transactions on exchanges it bores down to USDT conversion. The recent rise in bitcoin price could be attributed to traders who buy and sell. The increase in the volume clearly show that there is more demand which if continue the bull run will fully come to play.
That is a plausible explanation, but that in no way means that is the exact reason behind the 2017 bull run. So many factors contributed to this insane rally and the Tether reason provided by op could actually be one of those factors.

I am simply happy with the current mini bull run going on in the cryptocurrency market which I hope will continue for a long period of time.
hero member
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I don't think Tether contributed that much to the last bull run, I think it was more of a combination of several events occuring at the same time: dumb money pouring tons and tons of capital into the btc ecosystem, financial instituions entering the market, bitcoin going mainstream which triggered a gigantic fomo buying wave from the masses that thought bitcoin was a "get rick quick" sheme, etc, etc.

Let's not give Tether that much importance...The next bull run will come, with or without Tether.
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It might be one of the reasons why the bull-run occurred last time. There might be several reasons behind it, most likely the reason why the market was pumped last time was due to hype, since the market grew multiple times on the recent run, everyone was not sure when will it stop, so people kept on stacking their bitcoin which caused the massive demand on it. People kept buying and selling, and once they see a positive movement on the market, they will buy back and wait for another rise.
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tether is not the only stablecoin is only one of many if during the next bull market you are looking for a strategy to exit safely from the world of crypto but not in fiat there are many other options...
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Hi everyone,

I've read lots of articles explaining that one of the major reasons of the run to $20,000 back in 2017 was the money machine printer known as Tether (USDT). What do you think it will happen this time regarding this?

I ask based on tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Stami_/status/1115217112262483969

Thanks!

The bull run back in 2017 was as a result of the credit card company involvement into bitcoin and not the Tether(USDT) that brought the bull run. We all know that; after all the transactions on exchanges it bores down to USDT conversion. The recent rise in bitcoin price could be attributed to traders who buy and sell. The increase in the volume clearly show that there is more demand which if continue the bull run will fully come to play.
legendary
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As many other said previously, I dont think the past bull run was a power of Tether. Probably it gave an effect but not that much, so I believe Tether wont give significant effect to the next bull run which is still unpredictable when it will come.
copper member
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Bitcoin is gaining momentum for the next bull run which this time will be in real greenbacks.

The next bull run is THE bull run, in U$ cash.

The Fed keeps printing dollars, China keeps printing Yuan, Europe keeps printing euros. They've printed U$ 300 trillion in debt that nobody's gona pay.

The next banker-created crash will make Bitcoin into digital gold.
legendary
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Hi everyone,

I've read lots of articles explaining that one of the major reasons of the run to $20,000 back in 2017 was the money machine printer known as Tether (USDT). What do you think it will happen this time regarding this?

I ask based on tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/Stami_/status/1115217112262483969

Thanks!

That could have been possible because Tether is one such currency whose daily trading volume often crosses its market cap. Tether can be literally used to pump any currency and I am sure many people are exploiting this opportunity. However, we are well passed 2017 now and let's focus on the present!

A jump from 4000 USD to 5200 USD is definitely welcoming to a lot of crypto people as it gives us hope. However, I doubt any manjor impact is happening due to Tether. Rather, a more credible reason may be the below one,

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crypto-currencies-idUSKCN1RE0JY

But for me, it is more important for the price to hold up at this level rather than reaching new high!

legendary
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we can only speculate as to if Tether was behind the huge bull run of 2017 or not
but our mini-bullrun from 4.000 to 5.200 $ happened without any noticeable reason or news preceding it
it just happened as some investor(s) decided to buy copious amounts of coins across several exchanges
the reasons for the new bullrun could be numerous including ETF rumours , cryptocurrency or ICO rules changed in a particular country ( or group of countries) and many other things can happen in a short period of time to have the price spike
I don't think we will be getting 20.000$ range any time soon , but the return to 6500$ ish levels are very possible
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