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Topic: What will happen with deceased DT members' feedback? - page 2. (Read 632 times)

legendary
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If it's a DT1 member, the lack of activity would remove the DT1 weight of the feedback, but he'd still be DT2 if I'm not mistaken.
This is correct. I can think of many reasons, ranging from everything from physical or mental health to various life events or circumstances, which would make an account suddenly become permanently inactive. As you say, if you or I disappeared from the forum tomorrow, it is highly unlikely that any other user would ever know why.

There are three potential solutions which I can see:
1 - All feedbacks are left as is, and the user has to be excluded from DT or have their ratings countered if not appropriate
2 - The community discuss and petition the admin to remove the inappropriate rating, while leaving all the other accurate ratings, as we are doing here
3 - There is a recent active requirement for you to be added to DT2 - much like you must have been active in the previous 3 days to become DT1, perhaps you have to have been active in the last 6 months to appear on DT2. This would not prevent users from adding the user in question to their own personal trust list, just that their ratings would not show up in DT.
legendary
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The death of members is quite a serious problem, and not just for DT issues. My partner uses a Chromebook for emails and watching history, health and cooking videos on You Tube, but she has no idea how to recover my Bitcoin in the event of my death. Maybe we could start a trusted members club to help in these situations.
legendary
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In general I think if a DT member dies, his trust is still valid and I don't see a reason why it should be deleted.  The only exceptions to this are cases where someone might have successfully appealed the neg.  For example, if I suddenly died and one of the members I'd tagged for account selling had somehow turned into an extremely trusted member, then my feedback should be removed.  That's the kind of case which would have resulted in a successful appeal for me to remove it.

What happens when a DT member dies and no one knows about the death?  If it's a DT1 member, the lack of activity would remove the DT1 weight of the feedback, but he'd still be DT2 if I'm not mistaken.  It's a valid issue since a lot of members here don't really know each other and wouldn't really be aware that someone died.  Zepher was an exceptional case because he was active in a tight community like the collectibles one, but for a typical scam-tagging DT member?  It's not very likely someone would become aware of their passing IMO.
legendary
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I don't think one-two negative feedback matters so much till some other DT members can give the member a counter positive feedback. It was sad to know one DT member passed away but thinking about his wrong/right feedback doesn't sound good. The admin shouldn't be asked for such small things that don't really make a difference for the user who can trade with the counter feedback freely.
legendary
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I think the best option was the counter positive feedback as this isn't a critical situation that theymos has to step in. Him doing so in such a minor situation might open a reason for more individuals (you know those I'm taking about) to appeal for their negative feedback to be removed too. I think the only time theymos has to step in is when the feedbacks can soiled the users reputation outside forum and it's a false feedback resulting to arrest or government intervention. If a counter positive feedback can do the trick I see no reason why admin has to be involved.

I wouldn't call it minor nor do I think that someone would be able to take advantage of it.

At any rate, I had doubled-up Zepher's ratings a while ago due to Og excluding him from DT2 so even if someone else would successfully appeal Zepher's neg it wouldn't matter and I'm sure other DT members would evaluate the situation as well. I'd say theymos should remove this one.
legendary
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I added a positive as well. Perhaps we could have an alert if/when these should be removed.
legendary
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I think in this case it should simply be a case of an admin deleting that single, no longer accurate feedback.
Agreed.
Short-term, it would be good if Admin can remove the feedback.
Long-term, and I'm thinking years here, I expect the number of inclusions to drop. Until then, keeping him in their Trust list seems like the least users can do to honour his memory. If Admin can intervene by removing the unwarranted feedback, users can keep him in their Trust lists longer.
legendary
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On this special case theymos can help, but it look like trust moderation. Perhaps more people's will claim to admin for remove feedback's in near future. So counter feedback's is appropriate in my opinions. I don't think admin should involve with this kind of case. After many case will raise up. I believe this kind of case will found very rare, so it's possible to resolved by counter feedback's.
legendary
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I think the best option was the counter positive feedback as this isn't a critical situation that theymos has to step in. Him doing so in such a minor situation might open a reason for more individuals (you know those I'm taking about) to appeal for their negative feedback to be removed too. I think the only time theymos has to step in is when the feedbacks can soiled the users reputation outside forum and it's a false feedback resulting to arrest or government intervention. If a counter positive feedback can do the trick I see no reason why admin has to be involved.
legendary
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It is clear from the link you included to Loyce's site that many users, including many DT1 users, value Zepher's feedback. Just because an account is inactive (for any reason), it does not invalidate all the previous feedback they have left. I think in this case it should simply be a case of an admin deleting that single, no longer accurate feedback.
legendary
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It's not the most pleasant subject to talk about but still comes as an issue.

After the sad news that we lost one more valuable member of our community, some of the ratings left from a DT2 member can no longer be changed.

Late example is this thread .

Typical case of a hacked account, the real owner signed a message from his old posted address, some DT members tagged the account and now after the new recovery system is working very well, the account was recovered back to the original owner.

After the recovery all of the negative ratings were removed except one, the one from Zepher (rest in peace buddy).
See here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=147307

Zepher's trust list > http://loyce.club/trust/2019-04-06_Sat_20.17h/369879.html

I don't think Zepher will ever be able to remove the negative rating. Instead some DT members left a positive ratings to counter the negative one.
Still I don't think this is the best solution. I guess the admins should remove such obvious ratings, as here is no doubt that Zepher would remove it if he could.

What you think people?
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