what will price be on August 1? - page 2.

kodtycoon

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Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 10:04:29 AM

2500 to 2800.

Reasoning: 5% of daily increase last 24 hrs. LOL.

Future_price = Current_price * (1 + y)^n

where

y = decimal growth rate per day
n = number of periods (days)

does that work? :/

wobber

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! We're not at the beginning of a rally!

I don't think we will have any rally this year. Just maybe 100-150 USD of ups and downs.

Skele

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$800-$999

First a 900 dollars bid winner the past auction, next NewEgg accepting Bitcoin, Amazon will probably follows, at any case, buy now before is too late...

BitchicksHusband

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Quote from: keithers on July 01, 2014, 03:22:22 PM

whoever thinks that BTC will be $8,000 by August 1st should be dumping their life savings into BTC immediately. If you really believe that, then it is free money, right?

Correct.

kireinaha

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$600-$699

There are too many people this time expecting the bubble in July. They have already bought in and now twiddling their thumbs while waiting for "Wall Street" to show up and take it from here.

There's nobody to fuel this rise... although they will probably come eventually, for now, expectations are too high and once it becomes obvious that the bubble isn't coming soon, speculators will get wary and start selling, ensuring that we don't go up much higher than current levels.

maker88

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Quote from: zimmah on July 01, 2014, 02:29:31 PM

If we assume we are currently at the start of the next rally (which is in my opinion quite likely), the rally would need about 2 months to fully mature.

By 1 month it's about double the current price, while in 2 months it's about 5 times that price, as it accelerates in price.

So, by that logic, the price in 1 month would be about $1300

Also, previous 3 peaks:

August 17 2012 ($16 or so)
+235 days
April 10 2013 ($254 or so)
+233 days
Nov 29 2013 ($1162)
+234 days
July 21 2014 ($5600~7500ish) (altough i think we may be delayed a little because the price seems to be too low right now. It normally needs about 2 months for a 10-fold increase).

i agree that we are right at the beginning of a new rally period, if you look at last years events, the rise off the bottom and the bear trap that came before the big one look very very similar to the last two months events. i think july 21st we will have seen a significant increase, but i don't think 5000 range is coming this year. i think well be at 3-4000 around late fall for a brief moment before a sell off settling around 1500-2000. i think next year will be the year we go over 4k hope you're right and I'm wrong though!

keithers

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whoever thinks that BTC will be $8,000 by August 1st should be dumping their life savings into BTC immediately. If you really believe that, then it is free money, right?

piramida

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To people who say $700 - update your calendars, you have August where July usually is.

maker88

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Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 11:43:05 AM

Let me understand correctly, without my trollish-bearish general attitude: Everybody thinks that we'll see 4-digit prices based solely on last weeks rise? We are lower than January guys!

Good traders might have got the chance to make money out of these $100 price changes (up or down, doesn't matter) but holders have lost much of their wealth.

And yes, we had tons of good news but price wasn't much affected.

where do you get the idea that holders have lost wealth from this? what does it matter that we are lower than in january? january the price was at 900-800. last september we were lower than the previous may, and that lasted a real long time didn't it? 1000 by years end is all but a guarantee in my opinion. you don't have to place your bet in line with mine, but don't be mad when you miss out on a rally because you were too short sighted. bitcoin can rise multiple hundreds of percent in a weeks time under the right conditions, to just pretend thats never going to happen again is a mistake many have made, and all of them regret it.

zimmah

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If we assume we are currently at the start of the next rally (which is in my opinion quite likely), the rally would need about 2 months to fully mature.

By 1 month it's about double the current price, while in 2 months it's about 5 times that price, as it accelerates in price.

So, by that logic, the price in 1 month would be about $1300

Also, previous 3 peaks:

August 17 2012 ($16 or so)
+235 days
April 10 2013 ($254 or so)
+233 days
Nov 29 2013 ($1162)
+234 days
July 21 2014 ($5600~7500ish) (altough i think we may be delayed a little because the price seems to be too low right now. It normally needs about 2 months for a 10-fold increase).

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Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 11:55:41 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on July 01, 2014, 11:52:21 AM

Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 11:43:05 AM

holders have lost much of their wealth.

Not those who bought for less $100, let alone the early birds who paid pennies.

Perhaps you misunderstand holding. It means not selling. Until you sell your coins, they are worth exactly what you paid for them, nothing more, nothing less.

Only those stupid enough to sell for less than they paid have lost any wealth.

Agree. But holding into bitcoin should be looked at a method of preserving wealth. What wealth do you preserve when it drops 30%?

yes but what do you do with the cash in-between selling high and buying low? If you keep it on the exchange, you risk losing the lot if it goes bust. But if you transfer it out, then you have to transfer it back again when you want to buy - which can take days (AML etc) and then you miss the lows. Also if you sell, you risk triggering a capital gain. Then you have to use some of the cash to pay tax and have less to buy back with!

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Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 12:14:01 PM

Great insight, but you're talking years there... Bitcoin looses 40% in a few days...

I checked. You're right. It's clearly terrible. You should sell all of yours and go elsewhere.

skottiejay

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I don't think the price will really go up or down much, it might stick to the $600's it might go up a bit, but I don't see it getting any higher than $700 as much as I'd like it to. This is just purely observation on my part however.

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Quote from: Tzupy on July 01, 2014, 12:23:52 PM

Interesting... So far 13% of the voters went for >8000$, which is utterly delusional.

Its a joke.

vuduchyld

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I think we will see some volatility in July. We may well get over $700 or even $750. We may see another leg down below $550.

But if the question is what the price be ON August 1, put me squarely in the $600-699 camp.

BitchicksHusband

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I said $2000-$3999. We will either be on the way down from the peak ($4800-$5200) or late on the way up. Either way, I think this is the most likely answer.

MoreFun

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Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 12:28:38 PM

Seriously now, August might see 680. But anything more is insane.

Isn't anything more than $700 insane for you for this year? Please, $680 can be broken today not in august. There are many many buyers waiting on the side to buy when prices start to increase.

wobber

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Seriously now, August might see 680. But anything more is insane.

Tzupy

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Interesting... So far 13% of the voters went for >8000$, which is utterly delusional.

JimboToronto

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Quote from: Torque on July 01, 2014, 12:15:52 PM

Quote from: wobber on July 01, 2014, 12:14:01 PM

Great insight, but you're talking years there... Bitcoin looses 40% in a few days...

....and gains it back a few days or weeks later. It can also gain 500-600% in one month. It also averages 8x-10x value year over year end.

What else you got smart ass?

Hey, don't confuse him with the facts.

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