Topic: What Would a Nation of Sports Gamblers Look Like? - page 2. (Read 616 times)

Competition? I see greed.
As mentioned in this topic, younger generation are also influenced by gambling to the exntent wherein reliance do now exist in their life. It became a culture- as it sounded to me. There's no right or wrong culture for sure but if it is based with greed, I can say that it is just a manifestation of wrongdoings. It is no longer solely to playing or act of gambling but their reliance to the prize from doing so which puts more weigh into such activity, and on the latter, makes them more affected of the outcome.



I doubt with bragging. Gamblers are also sharing commonalities which makes them good friends, try to observe in a casino. They are all going along at first and things are just changing to worse once it is money which is in the 'middle'. Once there are people losing huge amounts, the tension will change. Far different with the comparison on vices wherein there's no such thing involved; only killing time. So I'm guessing this is quite irrelevant.

You are right with the smokers example you gave and how they quickly make friends but you have to know that smokers are not braggers. Gamblers are braggers. That is where the difference is. It is very hard for those who brag alot to remain in peace when they meet with those who also brag. This is what happens most times when gamblers meet.

It's still applicable in soccer, basketball and baseball or in any sports that requires team effort. However, it will be much tougher to analyze the datas available because we are weighing more things unlike in boxing and MMA where we are just comparing two different fighters to know who's who and which is which. Team sports does have many facts to consider as well because if their stars players cannot play due to injury, their fire power will be reduced and will give the opposite team an advantage.

This is too much, and I also don't see how a nation with majority of sport gamblers will promote competition. When different people have a common interest in an activity, it can lead to closer bonds formed. In a country where majority of the people gamble on sports, apart from all the bad it can cause, it also gives everyone a common topic that they can all relate to and foster better relationship. You can notice how easily smokers become friends, even people who drink, that's the same effect it will provide for a nation where majority of people sports gamble.

How will it promote competitive citizenship when we know how angry gamblers get when they lose? That is not possible. Look at what fans of different clubs do to others when their clubs lose, even right there at the soccer pitch. Many people have taken because of this and do not like going to watch live matches to avoid fights that normally erupts. At home, we have heard of wives refusing their husbands food and sex when the teams they support lose to their husbands opposing teams. Where is the competitiveness then?

I understand that if we wanted a country where it was for gamblers it would be necessary to put strong measures of KYC, the solution to many problems of gambling addicts is in KYC, for example:

the country would force all online or physical casinos to force customers to make KYC right away when creating an account in the case of an online casino and in the case of a physical casino they would have to ask customers for documents at the door of the physical casino

in case someone becomes addicted to gambling that person would have to be banned from gambling for at least 3 years, this means that the hospital would issue a note to all online and physical casinos forbidding and account creation of this addicted person in gambling

with that it could be possible that there was a nation of  sports gamblers

And like the saying says "prevention is always better than cure" But when someone is already addicted, then curing would be the obvious thing that we can do to get their selves back to normal. Restricting/banning gambling is one of the ways to prevent people from accessing it.

Maybe you are new on gambling that is why you find it too restrictive when some states are prohibited about it but did you know that there are countries where gambling is fully banned? So how about that? I think that is more restrictive. It's true that there are remedies but not all can do it, so this is better than if the government won't take any actions and just watch the public turning into a compulsive gambler.

Unfortunately, this makes sense.

Having a nation of gambler could be chaotic. While we could somehow lean on the positive aspects of gambling, we can't really deny the fact that gamblers tend to be greedy and boastful in the long run. I agree with what you said that constant fights could possible happen from time to time because different types of gamblers have different opinions and all of them want to be heard which could lead to some disagreements and fight amongst each other. Since they hold different kinds of beliefs and principles, as well as perspective, it is probable that they'll clash the moment the other try to impose what works for him.

Indeed, everyone's goal will be hitting the jackpot just for the sake of bragging and not really inspiring other gamblers. In fact, this so-called inspirational and motivational posts about winning could be a trap too, for you to bet over and over chasing the winning prize. Without actually knowing how they got there: the process, time, and fund spent altogether.

After all, Olympic sports require huge support from the state, countries such as Mexico cannot or do not want to provide such support to their national teams, hence the difference in results, but in professional sports the results are somewhat different.

This applies to boxing and MMA but for team sports like soccer or basketball, you may just depend on their best players like Curry, Klay Tom, or Lebron. All the time the pickers spread thier word and often they are right when you look at the odds.


Or would you say a nation of sports gamblers is a competitive citizen?
During Olympics, all I see on the top gold getter are the US, China, Germany, and Russia. I don't see Mexico being the top gold medalist in boxing.

Back when I was serious about sports gambling. Efforts were made to use math, science, psychology and other avenues of study towards anticipating the outcome of matches.

Sometimes you can tell how hungry and motivated athletes are going into events simply by watching their interviews and paying close attention to their body language and responses. It is also possible to tell when they're unmotivated and distracted.

When Cain Velasquez fought Francis Ngannou. Cain Velasquez was sweating heavily despite not moving or exerting himself much at the open workout. He looked out of shape or injured. I used that indicator to bet heavily on Ngannou and won. Later it emerged Velasquez had a knee injury and wasn't able to run much to prepare his cardio for that bout. There were other occasions where I tried to use the law of large numbers and other aspects of math, science and strategy to be successful in gambling.

A nation of sports gamblers might study the psychology of sports and cold reading athletes to gauge performance at events. As well as strategy and math for better understanding odds and strategizing. A nation of gamblers wouldn't necessarily have to be a decadent or regressive trend. It could actually encourage people to embrace fields of study which might be useful for being profitable in the industry.

If they are capable of self-control I think this is okay. I don't think gamblers are irresponsible as a whole, but I don't think this would work as intended in the long run. There ought to be a problem (eventually) when the citizens are doing the same thing for the longest of time. A nation needs diversity of its people in order to survive, and that includes what they do to make money and what they do as a hobby, as gambling isn't a very viable industry to focus on for a nation.

you have a point on this scenario. we can't tell the repercussions of having all gamblers in the house, with different degree of addiction to this habit. a sports gambler will focus on the sports he wanted to bet on, and being addicted with it will give him other emotions that may not favourable to many if he got lost with his bet. so having to deal with such kind of emotions for all people, will be a messy and chaotic one. i don't think everybody will have their peace of mind when they go to sleep. certainly, this will create unhealthy environment for all. would not be advisable to happen in any country.

A nation of gamblers would be a nation of irresponsible citizenry. The constant fights that will often come on will be a thing of worry. Take for instance communities where gamblers are much and see the irresponsible living in that community with youngsters not wanting to get proper jobs or do anything meaningful with their lives. Everybody wants to hit it big so they can display their wealth. Morality and communal living will be lost in such nation and people can kill in such communities at the slightest disagreement.

The reason people become gambling addict is because they lose and they keep playing. If you lose a game there is the tendency that you want to go back chasing the money that you have lost and you find yourself always playing and like you said it gives a tense feeling and hatred, anger or envy may develop from this and this change the character and the way the person behave. You see a gambling also doing drugs because of such effect on their lives.

Isn't the world have already lots of irresponsible people?  I don't see any difference in statistics even with sports gambling being the trend since being irresponsible is all in the trait of a person whether the Nation is a sports gambler nation or not, if a person decided to be irresponsible, he will be irresponsible.


I greatly agree gambling has an effect on a person's whole being.  The moment the person is engaged and starts gambling, his time routine has already changed.  Whenever there is a change in time schedule, our body always react to this.    Every changes in environment and routine there is an effect to our physical and mental health.

I don't totally agree with this. Gambling directly affects your mental health too. Do you know why people become a gambling addicts? This is because they play too much gambling that their mind fails to recognize how much gambling is good or bad for them. They are unable to make the right decisions and this is directly linked to mental health.

Also if people start to lose in gambling, they will become tense. They will have a very adverse and bad effect on their mind. Just like winning in gambling and getting a lot of money can have a good effect on the mind, losing money will have a bad effect on the mind.

My imagination has traveled far and around, once I saw this thread.
 Well, it may not be as bad as one might assume, because I believe for a nation to agree to such, knowing fully well the pros and cons involved in gambling, stringent measures to ensure it is controlled will be put in place. However, with the way I see it, legalizing gambling, is as good as saying yes to other vices that symbiote with it.
No nation wants to have to exhaust its resources in keeping up with ensuring gambling is in moderation, and also provide security or medical/psychiatric free or paid sessions because of those who don't know how to call it quits during a game.

I do think that what the government is trying to do is by preventing addiction rather than curing it.

Though this may be the case, I find it too restrictive to the point that there are states that completely prohibit online gambling. But, this kind of problem may easily be remedied by visiting other states and gambling on it. While it may be inconvenient for you, but it relatively solves the issue of complete prohibition done by some states that prohibited gambling.

Again, while I am not in favour of completely prohibiting gambling, I do understand the implication that the government did by making this move.

Indeed if we talk about Las Vegas never ending in the world of the gambling industry, there are always new ideas and tricks that are applied to make gamblers feel happy and enjoy when placing bets, especially sportsbooks carried out by Circa Casino.

I just took the point that was conveyed by Derek Stevens, his goal was to build a sports gambling place only for clients who visited Circa Casino in Las Vegas from various nations, even though it's only once in his life to seek thrills in the online sports betting arena, he likes it when nations visit there betting sports betting, drinking, have fun and plus with the ladies of the night, it's a great gambling place and brilliant idea done by Derek, because casinos in other countries the rules are not the same as those in Las Vegas in the United States.