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legendary
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There are lot's of people which are holding huge amounts of bitcoin and there are also lot's of big organizations or companies that are holding hug amounts of bitcoin!!! This set of people or organizations are the once called the Wales, they always have control over market they are the once that can pump and dump coins. They have the largest share in bitcoin which they are holding the largest parcentage of bitcoin. If people that are holding large percentage of bitcoin decide to sell off price of bitcoin will definitely crash and if people did not buy back I don't think Bitcoin price will be able to pump again!!! The main reason why bitcoin price is pumping is due to there are lot's of people investing in bitcoin there are lot's of organizations investing in bitcoin and still adopting bitcoin.

such scenario will not happen, imo. but on the theoretical side of things, of course, it will crash. in reality, it would take a lot of communication before this movement will happen. and i dont think thats an easy job to do.
as the use case of crypto is getting clearer these days, owed to pandemic crisis. i dont think these major holders will decide to sell their stash, now that many people are into crypto, bitcoin in particular.
jr. member
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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/09/diar-research-less-than-1-of-crypto-wallets-hold-87-of-all-bitcoins/

It's kind of concerning that so few people hold so much bitcoin.

Are these holders even active or what? I'm guessing they bought at the beginning and are all just holding.

This is the biggest problem Bitcoin have at the moment.
hero member
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For me, major holders won't just easily sell all their holdings in one price. They treat it as their long-term investment and would only sell a percentage at a particular price. Though price would definitely drop if they sell at one price but many buyers will be prepared to buy some of those at lower price. Some rich people could become a new whale if they accumulated many amount at that moment. If those major holders plan to buy again, their investment could not buy the same amount of bitcoin again.
hero member
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There are lot's of people which are holding huge amounts of bitcoin and there are also lot's of big organizations or companies that are holding hug amounts of bitcoin!!! This set of people or organizations are the once called the Wales, they always have control over market they are the once that can pump and dump coins. They have the largest share in bitcoin which they are holding the largest parcentage of bitcoin. If people that are holding large percentage of bitcoin decide to sell off price of bitcoin will definitely crash and if people did not buy back I don't think Bitcoin price will be able to pump again!!! The main reason why bitcoin price is pumping is due to there are lot's of people investing in bitcoin there are lot's of organizations investing in bitcoin and still adopting bitcoin.
hero member
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If major holders sell their BTC there will be a new set of whales. Many people are waiting to get the cheapest BTC they could and buy as much as they can at the cheapest price possible. BTC will never go down to zero not unless the government declares it illegal or of internet shutdowns fully.

Do you really think so? What government?

Say a government of Japan decides Bitcoin is illegal, would it according to you mean that it would go to 0? When I first read it I thought that this is what you mean and if it is so then you're being naive.

If you knew hos the Internet is built you'd know that it's impossible to shut it down worldwide, unless you'd cut every wire between every server. Even if you'd manage to destroy connections between continents the Internet would still run with less servers and bitcoin would function with less nodes and less processing power.
sr. member
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If all of the big whales including the big holders of the bitcoin will immediately sell all of their holdings then probably there will be a a great impact on the market in which it will suddenly dumps but also including the scenario right now that the bitcoin is in the trend and has been hype by many people especially the famous ones then probably there will be an immediately buyer when those big whales and big holders sell their bitcoins.
member
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Are these holders even active or what? I'm guessing they bought at the beginning and are all just holding.
If they really wake up and see this price point, well.  I think they'll sell them, because of this new ATH price.  The mass seems to be that they are macroscopic mining farms. 
Given this open trend, I think there is enough space and good conditions to buy all of them.  Bitcoin is really provocative in this situation.  Great interest, million dollar assets.
hero member
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If major holders sell their BTC there will be a new set of whales. Many people are waiting to get the cheapest BTC they could and buy as much as they can at the cheapest price possible. BTC will never go down to zero not unless the government declares it illegal or of internet shutdowns fully.
newbie
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If all the major hodlers decide to offload the amount of btc they have, New Hodlers will emerge. If they all sell out same time, it will cause a scare in the market, as people will be forced to wonder the sudden decision to. This scare will cause a dip in the price value of btc and people who habe been waiting for another opportunity to join the btc train, will immediately jump in.

I think if whale holders sell out their bitcoins this would shake off lots of retail investors as well. And in order for btc to go up again we would need to accumulate a lot of new investors. I think this is the reason why crypto market is very cyclical.

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since bitcoin could get to 56k so quickly then 300k ending of this  year is very possible buy btc now before regretting it soon
newbie
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Some will Sell and Cry, others will Hodl and Fly. Happens every cycle. This might just be the "Supercycle" Bitcoin is the future ,investing in it now is the wisest thing to do now especially the current rise  Despite all the economic crisis this is the right time to start up an investment


hero member
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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/09/diar-research-less-than-1-of-crypto-wallets-hold-87-of-all-bitcoins/

It's kind of concerning that so few people hold so much bitcoin.

Are these holders even active or what? I'm guessing they bought at the beginning and are all just holding.
People now are optimistic it's sound ridiculous when they do those major holder's always looking forward to the future since the bitcoin market cup reach it's 1 trillion already if they do and no one can decide it whether they sell nor not as they "looking for the future of bitcoin" As many of those holders saying that "Crypto Currency" is for the people then why to sell them of just to slide the price of market? I don't think so then those who really wants to involve into bitcoin will start rebuying and will stock until the price went up.
newbie
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Bitcoin price just finally blasted well above 50K for the first time in history. With the leading cryptocurrency by market cap having no clear resistance above it, it has now entered price discovery mode, and where to next is anyone's guess. I personally think now is the right time to take advantage of the current bull run and make money leveraging trad es rather than just hodlin until the bears take over.
newbie
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If all the major hodlers decide to offload the amount of btc they have, New Hodlers will emerge. If they all sell out same time, it will cause a scare in the market, as people will be forced to wonder the sudden decision to. This scare will cause a dip in the price value of btc and people who habe been waiting for another opportunity to join the btc train, will immediately jump in.

I think if whale holders sell out their bitcoins this would shake off lots of retail investors as well. And in order for btc to go up again we would need to accumulate a lot of new investors. I think this is the reason why crypto market is very cyclical.
legendary
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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/09/diar-research-less-than-1-of-crypto-wallets-hold-87-of-all-bitcoins/

It's kind of concerning that so few people hold so much bitcoin.

Are these holders even active or what? I'm guessing they bought at the beginning and are all just holding.
As you may guess if that happened and those holders all wanted to sell at the same time the supply of bitcoin on exchanges will increase and the price will go down as the demand remains static, but that is very unlikely, many of those that are holding so many coins are not interested in selling and instead want to just keep holding, I know it may seem weird but those that are holding their coins since the beginning of bitcoin are probably not interested in selling at all since they believe completely on the future prospects of bitcoin, so there is nothing to worry about on that front.
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Well, if they decided to sell it all right now... this minute... I think there would be enough buyers to take up the slack Wink

Just 10% of these wallets if they decide to sell it will not be absorbed. It will also depend on the timing as there can be weeks with Bitcoin price not moving and interest fading. It is basically these wallets that will decide the market, pay the media for bearish news and keep pushing the price down for two years, when they begin the sell process. They are not selling now so you are being this much optimistic to think that the market will buy them without any problem in price.
hero member
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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/09/diar-research-less-than-1-of-crypto-wallets-hold-87-of-all-bitcoins/

It's kind of concerning that so few people hold so much bitcoin.

Are these holders even active or what? I'm guessing they bought at the beginning and are all just holding.

Some of the whales are active watching the market, but the others are busy counting their profit. I don't think that all of the major holders of bitcoin will sell all of their bitcoin because they want to make a bigger profit than now. They will sell some amount just to increase their fiat money and buy more bitcoin if the price is down. The holders will hold their bitcoin because they are real holders that can do that for a long time, but we don't know about their plan with their bitcoin. But if that happens, the price will drop too deep, and the other people will use that time to buy more bitcoin at a discount, and that can be a big discount happen in the market.
hero member
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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/09/diar-research-less-than-1-of-crypto-wallets-hold-87-of-all-bitcoins/

It's kind of concerning that so few people hold so much bitcoin.

Are these holders even active or what? I'm guessing they bought at the beginning and are all just holding.

Real worlds, real money. Aren't you concerned about this then?

"According to the latest Fed data, the top 1% of Americans have a combined net worth of $34.2 trillion (or 30.4% of all household wealth in the U.S.), while the bottom 50% of the population holds just $2.1 trillion combined (or 1.9% of all wealth)."  https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/08/top-1-of-us-households-hold-15-times-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-combined/

If some whales decide to sell, we may experience a short price fall but nothing more in the current market conditions.
legendary
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If all the major hodlers decide to offload the amount of btc they have, New Hodlers will emerge. If they all sell out same time, it will cause a scare in the market, as people will be forced to wonder the sudden decision to. This scare will cause a dip in the price value of btc and people who habe been waiting for another opportunity to join the btc train, will immediately jump in.
full member
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BTC price will drop. The same with all others assets. Thats how market works
newbie
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On what is now the 400 year (approximately) anniversary of the Tulip Mania in what was called the Dutch Republic at the time; it is interesting to speculate what historians will say about the Bitcoin Bubble (gotta get a better name than that) in another 400 years.  Maybe something like .....
Four hundred years ago a very interesting, first of its kind, financial bubble was building , with most countries participating to at least some degree.  What made it unique was that unlike previous financial bubbles , of which there were countless many over the many years that capitalism held sway, was that all previous ones were bubbles in the value of something.  Be it tulips, not the first bubble by any means but maybe the most famous, or stock prices like in 1929 America, the South Sea Bubble of 1720 in London, the great Tech Bubble of 1999  mostly in America again, and the Housing Bubble of 2008 focused in America but also  many other countries. The bubble of the early 2020's was a bubble of nothing.  This nothing was called a 'coin' but had none of the characteristics of money; to all intents and purposes had no utility, was expensive and slow to trade as well as requiring a great deal of electricity ;  and the world became delighted with it.  Similar , no doubt, to the great love the Dutch had for tulips for a time; but this love was for nothing that existed.  It was a pure love, a love for an artificial construct, a something that didn't exist so could represent anything you wanted it to.  
Now the proponents of this coin argued that it would replace the money that was used at that time, with the dominant currency being the American dollar at that time, but the only value the coin had was the value it held in those dollars.  On it's own it was literally nothing. No country backed up the value, there weren't tons of gold held in vaults as back up value, there was nothing.  The only thing the coin had was price, given to it by the dominate currency.   I guess one coin could buy another coin, but that was about it. It is true that a few gangsters and tax evaders used the coin to transfer dollars, and were willing to suffer the great cost of doing that for anonymity, but it made no sense for anyone else. When the financial firms of the day started letting you trade what was called paper coins , which made trading possible for the masses, the price of the 'coins' sky rocketed.   Stuff had always been traded as paper, even tulips , but now people were paper trading basically a number.    That made it unique because its intrinsic value was zero unlike other bubble things like gold for example which has always had some value for its utility, appearance etc.  ; even tulips and especially as they were originally very new and exciting flowers in Dutch Republic at the start of the Mania.  And of course housing, and stocks do have some underlying value.  In essence people were paper trading something that didn't even have paper value.  
Originally this was called the 'Bitcoin Bubble" but then a guy on an obscure forum in 2021 came up with the name 'Bitcoin Craze' , and then 'Coin Craze' , and as those things go , that  name  stuck.  
In the Tulip Mania an interesting thing happened to help drive the mania , and that was a guy in the business of making carriages became an early backer of tulips.  Shortly after he had bought a large number of bags of the newest tulips , he announced that he would start selling his carriages for tulips.  At this time tulips were already very valuable, so a nice carriage could be had for 17 tulips.  Later it turned out that it was all a ruse by the carriage maker.  Seems his carriage making wasn't giving him any profit, and there were some serious questions about quality and safety in his newest factory, combined with the much larger carriage makers deciding to build the same style of carriage he had been making, but better and cheaper; well, the writing was on the wall. A very big distraction was needed.  Tulips, being in a full throated mania, were perfect for that.   And the tulip mania kept his business going a little longer, time for him to extract more money from it personally.
The Bitcoin Craze lasted until October of 2021.  .  As bubbles go , they pick up speed, and that certainly happened with Bitcoin.   Just before the crash one 'coin' had a nominal  , and I am hesitant to say value or worth,  so let's say number of one million , of the dollars that were used at that time.  And with a million of those dollars you could buy a pretty decent house at that time.  With that million dollar number for one coin it made all the coins in existence, (and interesting there was a limit on the number that could be created, creating an artificial scarcity)'worth' a very large twenty trillion dollars.  That was big money at that time.  But as it goes with bubbles or Ponzi's , whatever name you use, eventually there was no more money left to be put into it. People were selling their house to buy 'coins'.  It was rumoured that fathers were selling their daughters, but since that was outlawed most places by then, apparently it wasn't that widespread .  So if it was a bubble it burst, if it was a Ponzi it deflated very rapidly.  That is what always happened in those days to those things when all the money had been sucked into them, and there was no more available.  
But it was also interesting that when the thing dramatically exploded, or just dropped into a heap of nothing, depending on your perspective, the effect wasn't that big.  Many people went from being poor to being fabulously wealthy and then back to poor. again.  Some of those who put their life savings  in didn't fare too well, and there were some suicides reported.  Unlike in the previous housing bubble of 2008, there wasn't all the suffering of people losing their houses, and I suppose there weren't the great heaps of tulips needing to be disposed of like after the Tulip Mania went to it's obvious and inevitable conclusion.   The people who made money were the ones who got out before the top arrived.  Just like in Tulip Mania, where our carriage maker was very prescient at picking the top, and saving his business for awhile longer with the profits from that;  so too with the 'Coin Craze' some did profit from the dreams of the poor for quick riches. 
The effect on the capitalist system which was the system in use at that time was fairly small. The reckoning that that system was soon to have, wouldn't happen until a few years later.  But that's a story for another day.  
Finally there is one more interesting side to explore.  Once the 'coin' was still nothing but no one was willing to give even a plug nickle for a coin , which was a close as you could get to nothing at that time,  the question was where did all the money go?  In lots of bubbles money goes to those who buy early and sell early enough , from those who do the opposite. The amount made equals the amount lost.  But with these 'coins' ,  they all were created from burning large amounts of electricity.  So maybe they weren't nothing, maybe they were electricity.  Once they were 'created' they could be sold for the cash of the day.  One's born everyday, and in those days many many had been born over the years before.  This is where it gets real interesting, it seems no one ever knew who had originated the idea of this coin or designed and implemented it.  But after awhile the idea or rumour started that it was the leader of an obscure country called North Korea.  It became obvious eventually that even though he cultivated a look of a Tinpot Dictator, he was in fact a master strategist. And he had his most brilliant computer scientists and the best social scientists create a believable system. A system that fooled everyone. 
 He had an abiding fear of the dominant military power of the day.  He got that from his father and grandfather who had experienced their country being invaded shortly after what was called the 2nd world war.  In that world war the dominant military power had used weapons of unimaginable destruction.  They didn't use them when they invaded our dear leaders country,  a scant 5 years later,but they didn't have any reason to.  All the towns and cities  were flattened in more normal ways, and 25% of the people killed  mostly by the very conventional shot through the head.  So our leader , with his fear very much intact, and reinforced by the actions of the dominant military power in many more countries that it later invaded; did what any good leader would do: try and find some protection for his country.  And the best way he thought to do that since his country could never come close to rivalling the dominant country militarily, was to get one of those imaginably destructive weapons.  Takes a lot of money to do that.  Initially he sold his 'coins' for a few dollars.  He had people on contract in China and other places where the electricity was cheap and abundant ,to 'make'  'coins'.  But after a few years the price he got was huge.  He had a keen understanding of the kind of people that lived in the dominant country, and their need for quick fixes, easy riches etc.  It isn't known just how much money our dear leader made in this way, but reportedly it was huge.  Enough to build those unimaginably destructive weapons, and build credible ways of dropping them on the dominant military's cities.  And his country was never invaded again.  












   



 








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