I would require the things detailed in this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IwUiLlARSzf0L-nNI7gR-hHVHW_y6YM0OsiEweHBa6M/preview
In particular, I would require a signed message from his PGP key and the genesis block address. The message would have to include the date and preferably some other random information that could only be known at the date of signing, like a recent block hash. I would also require that these proofs be posted publicly and be verifiable with current Bitcoin and PGP clients. Additionally, I think that Theymos, Sirius, Garzik, and gmaxwell would have to vouch for him in order to convince me that a person was satoshi.
Topic: What would it take to convince YOU that someone is Satoshi? - page 2. (Read 1678 times)
At this late stage I'm not sure there's a bean that anyone could do to prove it. Signing the genesis block proves that they can sign the genesis block but who's to say the original Satoshi didn't select a random toilet attendant and hand over the keys in a moment of doubt or desperately needing a shit?
@Craig Wright -
You could convince us all by simply sending $0.01337 to this address:
1K3zm5ykoStQcWkxpqjg59dcUnFzeyqQc7
Well, Mr Wright is going to be real busy if he needs to make a transaction to everyone of us to prove he's Satoshi. He's done one to Gavin and he probably expects it's enough. I certainly can't tell if he is or not Satoshi, but I see he's been able to convince people who know more about BTC than I do.
I would like to see coins moved from Satoshi Nakamoto's stash than signing a message of the genesis block. By the way Craig said that people have helped him with the development of Bitcoin. What if there are really multiple people involved with the creation of Bitcoin and these coins are not controlled by 1 person? Do you guys fancy the idea that Satoshi may be the alias of an international group?
signature of the genesis block
what if he stole the wallet from satoshi? how would you be 100% sure that even after signing he is satoshi in that case?
Ok you have a point here.
This wouldn't prove if he really is Satoshi. But man he would be a lucky bastard and own a **itload of coins.
In the end it doesn't matter if he is Satoshi or not. The develeopment, progress had been done without him all the years.
And I doubt the community would give him much of attention if he would try to come up as some kind of dictator with ideas which could harm Bitcoin.He wouldn't have any power!
Signature of the genesis block and a move of a few of the first coins.
If that happens I will believe someone is Satoshi.
If that happens I will believe someone is Satoshi.
I dont know how to convince, but what i do want to know is: what difference does it make? i dont give a **** to who is satoshi, what i want know is about new features that could solve bitcoin problems.
And its a serious question, does it make any difference who is satoshi??
And its a serious question, does it make any difference who is satoshi??
IMO it would be best if we refuse to accept anyone is Satoshi. TO much power in the hands of one. Which is IMO why Satoshi never gave up who they were.
For me you have to sign to prove or you are 100% not it and even if you do as my previous statement I pretty much now refuse to believe anyone is Satoshi for the sake of not giving so much power to one.
For me you have to sign to prove or you are 100% not it and even if you do as my previous statement I pretty much now refuse to believe anyone is Satoshi for the sake of not giving so much power to one.
signature of the genesis block
This, at least as the first and primary hurdle. With this proof in hand we could then proceed to the question "How do we know X didn't steal Satoshi's wallet?" Addressing that would involve X providing evidence of access to other Satoshi accounts and blocks, demonstrating strong knowledge of the bitcoin protocol and cryptography, etc. But let's start with the Genesis block.
signature of the genesis block
what if he stole the wallet from satoshi? how would you be 100% sure that even after signing he is satoshi in that case?
It looks like I'm not the only one who wants to see a simple signed message. One would think that Satoshi would understand this. It is suspicious that the inventor of a trust-less cash system would prove himself by secretly showing some reporters or Gavin then asking the world to trust their observations.
@Craig Wright -
You could convince us all by simply sending $0.01337 to this address:
1K3zm5ykoStQcWkxpqjg59dcUnFzeyqQc7
It is one of mine and obviously you need to send it from a wallet known to belong to Satoshi. I don't want your money and I'll send it back and cover the fees for doing this. As the creator of bitcoin you surely understand why this is required to be believed. It is not credible to think Satoshi can't accomplish such a simple task.
@Craig Wright -
You could convince us all by simply sending $0.01337 to this address:
1K3zm5ykoStQcWkxpqjg59dcUnFzeyqQc7
It is one of mine and obviously you need to send it from a wallet known to belong to Satoshi. I don't want your money and I'll send it back and cover the fees for doing this. As the creator of bitcoin you surely understand why this is required to be believed. It is not credible to think Satoshi can't accomplish such a simple task.
Well, if he signed a message.... or if he moved some of the million coins stash, I would seriously take him as being a contender for the real Satoshi. He could also answer some technical questions on
the Bitcoin protocol and the changes that were made, since he disappeared from the scene. Craig has shown some prove, but it's being scrutinized as we speak... It turns out, that he did not sign his
message with his private key. We will see.... signs are not looking good, that he is genuine.
the Bitcoin protocol and the changes that were made, since he disappeared from the scene. Craig has shown some prove, but it's being scrutinized as we speak... It turns out, that he did not sign his
message with his private key. We will see.... signs are not looking good, that he is genuine.
Till now I don't understand what he provided as evidence , He only showed to the reporter from BBC (wondering if he knows anything about Cryptography) but BBC didn't post anything like signed message or something on the article .
I'm not sure if this Craig guy is dumb or something because he should know that no one is going to believe him unless he provide a signed message from one of his addresses .
So I personally want to see him signing a message + connect to his Bitcointalk forum account .
I'm not sure if this Craig guy is dumb or something because he should know that no one is going to believe him unless he provide a signed message from one of his addresses .
So I personally want to see him signing a message + connect to his Bitcointalk forum account .
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Curious what you think it takes to prove Satoshi's identity. I hear Craig Write proved it to some people, but with what? What evidence would you want to see publicly to be convinced?
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