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Quote from: asu on March 17, 2020, 02:09:50 PM

I think OP it is time to lock the thread as you received now the different point views and opinion of others.
We're just seeing repeatedly answers, thus, things would get more spammy if you'll don't lock this as soon as possible.

Haven't checked the thread for some days but you are right

. Mostly the narrative for the thread is lost and it's simply replies to the oppening post.
Locking it now.

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I think OP it is time to lock the thread as you received now the different point views and opinion of others.
We're just seeing repeatedly answers, thus, things would get more spammy if you'll don't lock this as soon as possible.

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To be safe from the consequences, since perhaps it is well-established, report the bug, because there could be charges if they would found out that you took advantage of the problem. But it would really be tempting for sure knowing how hard it is to earn profit, or to simply get the win, in gambling. But for a long run, doing the right thing is the best.

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on March 17, 2020, 12:22:36 PM

the best thing to do in these cases is to report the bug to the operators of the gambling site hoping that they will be grateful by giving you a bonus or credit on their site...

That is right, they might reward you which is a win-win situation: you did the right way and you will also earn a reward for doing so. Think of such thing if ever the bug will be encountered by other players and it was used against you, would it still be fun if you are the one who suffer from the bug? Obviously it will not. That is what I am trying to point out with "longterm" enjoyment. And it would be better to feel a 'win' without cheating, not only in gambling but to most of the things.

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the best thing to do in these cases is to report the bug to the operators of the gambling site hoping that they will be grateful by giving you a bonus or credit on their site...

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Quote from: criza on March 17, 2020, 09:39:48 AM

Always choose to do the right thing, that's more important.

That is right, just always put this in your mind.
"BE HONEST… Even If Others Are Not. Even If Others Will Not. Even If Others Cannot".

It will always have a good return and as I saw the last OP reply on his thread, he didn't expect he received a small reward that came from the gambling company that he reported the bug. Probably if you will abuse the bug and didn't report it there is a possibility that your profit will forfeit by the gambling owner.

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Quote from: criza on March 17, 2020, 09:39:48 AM

Always choose to do the right thing, that's more important.

I agree with your opinion.
Basically, gambling sites often have bugs that may be used by some people, so that gambling sites suffer unfair losses.
All possibilities must be considered if it happens like that, what if the gambling site replied to not allow withdrawals for all users. Of course it will be a big problem, not only will the gambling sites be harmed but also other users who don't take advantage of the bug will be affected.

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Well, there is a saying that what you do to others might cost you after in the end, and for me, it is true because, doing such things might make you rich but, it will still remain in your conscience and thoughts that will affect you greatly in the later applications when you make decisions. Also, it will affect a lot of people that supports the company or sites and it will be terrible to happen. It would mean taking what others own and will lessen you as a human.

Always choose to do the right thing, that's more important.

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There's is no perfect gambling sites that human has made, and if the bugs appeared other gamblers doesn't report them to the developer or administrator they just enjoying to benefit bugs from a gambling sites they are not equal. For me, I will report the bug to the developer/administrator and tell the bugs of their gambling sites, so that it will prevent other gambles to by pass their sites.

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Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

If they cant trace my real identity after exploiting then I will try to place a bet and see if I can make profit. After taking advantage I will report the bug. We gamble to win and bumping into this scenario is like a chance given for us to experience how to guarantee win. It might sounds greedy but I think its a human nature to sometimes become greedy when it comes to money.

At least someone is honest here and I somehow agree with you that placing bets and gaining more profits is the possible way anyone including me will be lured into rather than reporting it and just imagine if they give no bonus how deeply it will hurt because you had a clear opportunity to make easy bucks but following the honest path gets you nothing and everyone you share your story will laugh at you.

I think placing some bets and making money and once I feel I have won enough I might report it to them so that the casino doesn't face too heavy a loss because somehow I feel attached with all casinos I play at and I don't want them to loose too much money. But there is a chance that I don't need money or I had a good day and find such bug then I will simply report the bug to them and hope they give some bonus, if they do give some bonus it just helps else I already had a good day.

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Quote from: mersal on March 15, 2020, 12:37:03 PM

Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

Most likely you will get caught when you request for withdrawal of that won bet because most of the gambling sites verify your results before approving your withdrawals so its better try to report the bug and get rewards if there is anything they offers.

When the gambling website has used automated the withdrawal process, the sites will not know about that, but I think they will set the alarm for the gamblers who want to withdraw big money, so they will know who is that gambler. Maybe they will need to verify the gambler first before they will let the process execute the withdrawal.

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Quote from: mersal on March 15, 2020, 12:37:03 PM

Most likely you will get caught when you request for withdrawal of that won bet because most of the gambling sites verify your results before approving your withdrawals so its better try to report the bug and get rewards if there is anything they offers.

OP said that the site is well-established therefore withdrawals should be automated. The winning amount will surely be withdrawn smoothly by those exploiters by doing a batch withdrawal so the devs won't notice it quickly.

The irregularities might just be noticed once that account did some continuous withdrawal or suddenly make a large withdrawal. As we know, large cashout are always subject to verification. That's where the verification will now take place and devs will now discover the bug. The account involved will now be terminated but the damage is already done. A lesson for the site owner to regularly check their system.

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Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

Most likely you will get caught when you request for withdrawal of that won bet because most of the gambling sites verify your results before approving your withdrawals so its better try to report the bug and get rewards if there is anything they offers.

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Surely most would use a bug. Having earned enough money on it, you can transfer all the information to the platform support service, and accept the earnings as a reward for finding the vulnerability.
In any case, a very small number of people will not take this opportunity.

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Quote from: Botnake on March 10, 2020, 06:57:27 PM

Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

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What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

Report it, I don't want my account be ban in a casino, and if I report it, maybe they'll give me some compensation for my honesty and concern of their website, I know everyone has their own action towards this, but for now, that's what I should do although it might be hard to decide when you are in the actual situation.

It is much easier to say than to actually follow the actions you suggest to others. I am quite sure to all the guys who are saying that they will report the bug most of them will actually exploit it and they might be not wrong either because look you are gambling for money and you get it easily than most of the guys will just grab the easy money and move on.

If you ask me, it depends on the casino and I must admit I would be tempted to use the bug to make some loss back I had on the casino but then I might actually hope that reporting it will get me some bug bonus which will be good enough. Very tricky situation indeed because suppose you exploit the bug and they don't approve your withdraw while if you had reported they gave you a better bonus.

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Quote from: ImThour on March 14, 2020, 05:34:21 PM

Not sure if that bug was only for a particular game or every game on that site? To be honest everyone will try to make some money and then get the bounty by reporting that bug. What did you do?

If they can make money, they'll make more before the bug will be discovered, there's no way possible that you are making money but later on you'll report that there is a bug, that's making yourself limiting your profitability, and many some abusers would think that its their time to win against a casino as they lose money most of the time.

I mean that’s what the OP did? He said that I tested a Bet to check out when he already knew this bug exists. So saying the same thing with betting 0.1 won’t be a big deal and then you can easily report it. Profit - Profit both side.

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Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

It is better if you do not gamble on such bets. There can be an attempt to scam your money, as when you place the bet, the bet has no result and the site refuses to pay the money. If the site is a trusted one, this will never happen. Only the scammers will opt for this way to collect the money.

Do you have any live example where you face such bets yourself ?

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Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

If you been playing on a site that you love for a long time better support them by reporting a bug, but if you are playing in a site that has a bad reputation you can exploit the bug and only report it after you made a withdraw, so for me it's a case to case basis depending on the reputation of the gambling site where you are playing.

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Quote from: ImThour on March 14, 2020, 05:34:21 PM

Not sure if that bug was only for a particular game or every game on that site? To be honest everyone will try to make some money and then get the bounty by reporting that bug. What did you do?

If they can make money, they'll make more before the bug will be discovered, there's no way possible that you are making money but later on you'll report that there is a bug, that's making yourself limiting your profitability, and many some abusers would think that its their time to win against a casino as they lose money most of the time.

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Not sure if that bug was only for a particular game or every game on that site? To be honest everyone will try to make some money and then get the bounty by reporting that bug. What did you do?

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Quote from: AlexSimion on March 10, 2020, 06:07:12 AM

So lets say "hypothetically" that I've came across a bug in a pretty big an well-established gambling websites sportsbook that allows me to place bets on matches which have already ended , thus knowing the outcome and being able to place some sure x30-x40 betslips.

What path would you follow , report the bug , or try to benefit from it ?

Truly speaking atleast once every user will try to benefit out of the bug, and only after that they'll tend to report the bug to the respective website. Every common man is in need of money, and when it comes to gambling we're looking for easy money. When the same is possible out of the bug, one out of ten might report directly without winning anything out of the error.

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