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Topic: What you can do with a bitcoin if the USD exchange price dropped to 0 - page 4. (Read 4118 times)

legendary
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Strength in numbers
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If we could find some good use of bitcoin even when the exchange price is 0, then it will flourish for sure

Let's say instead of being zero instead say it was just a penny, or a fraction of a penny even, instead.

Bitcoin is a protocol for a payment network.  Even valued at a fraction of a penny, bitcoins can be used to send and receive value.

So even if the total dollar value of all ten+ million BTC that currently exist was only valued at about $100K USD (10,800,000 * $0.01 each), there still would be demand for bitcoins to be used for transferring value.

And because it works well for that, there will be more transactions that occur.

But since there are only 10.8 million BTC that exist, the only way to accommodate the greater dollar value of the money transfers (assuming a constant currency velocity) is for the exchange rate to be a higher value.  So the exchange rate rises to meet the level needed for transactions.  And then there is speculation that future demand for the coins for use in sending money will continue to rise.

And you end up to where we are today.
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It is this kind of thinking that led to some of the ideas the clans using the various galactic currencies in the Galactic Milieu came up with.

Basically if you want to issue a credible currency in a universe of many currencies that all float with respect to each other, one of the ways you can help make your currency seem "credible" is to "back" it with boatloads of each of the other currencies, or even focus on just some of the other currencies. Like, you could keep only US dollars, Japanese Yen, and Swiss francs in your "reserves" (if you were the Brits) or also keep some Brit currency in your reserves (if you were none of the above).

So basically as more and more miners, or stake holders, or interested parties, or Bitcoin Reserve Funds, or Bitcoin Foundations, or whatever, keep more and more quantity of more and more variety of other currencies in stock, poised to buy bitcoins with any time bitcoin's exchange rate with respect to that currency drops, well, then you are playing the Minister of Finance game, or the Royal Exchequer game, or whoever it is in each nation that tries to keep that nation's currency's exchange rates from dropping to zero.

(At what price would YOU snap up any bitcoins you saw going cheap? Would the amount of USD you'd find yourself willing and able to dig up to snap them up with differ for different actual numerical values of the term "cheap"? If so In what way?)

To directly answer your question: what I could do would be "increase the USD exchange price".

It has already been done: bitcoins already had a 0 USD exchange price way back when.

-MarkM-

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
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What you can do with a bitcoin if the USD exchange price dropped to 0
The question suffers from circular logic. In reality, the only way exchange rate would drop to 0 is if you suddenly couldn't do anything with Bitcoin.
legendary
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If we could find some good use of bitcoin even when the exchange price is 0, then it will flourish for sure

Bitcoins can be sent in very small amounts. I could send a message using bitcoin transactions.

E would be the lowest, at one satoshi, and Z would be twenty-six (based on this http://i.imgur.com/H5yqeKX.png). Spaces and punctuation could be accounted for too, but would cost extra to communicate. I could send a message in this way by a series of transactions in very small denominations. You would pay a few thousand satoshi to have a method of communication that is completely anonymous.

If the two communicating nodes had an agreed upon cipher they could encode messages in the values sent, and nobody watching would know what was being said, or who was saying it.

I would put money into Bitcoins just to be able to do that.

Bitcoin opens up so many possibilities for creative application.
I'd put money on it for that too
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If we could find some good use of bitcoin even when the exchange price is 0, then it will flourish for sure

Bitcoins can be sent in very small amounts. I could send a message using bitcoin transactions.

E would be the lowest, at one satoshi, and Z would be twenty-six (based on this http://i.imgur.com/H5yqeKX.png). Spaces and punctuation could be accounted for too, but would cost extra to communicate. I could send a message in this way by a series of transactions in very small denominations. You would pay a few thousand satoshi to have a method of communication that is completely anonymous.

If the two communicating nodes had an agreed upon cipher they could encode messages in the values sent, and nobody watching would know what was being said, or who was saying it.

I would put money into Bitcoins just to be able to do that.
legendary
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The only reason the price will go to 0 is if there ends up being more than 21 million coins meaning someone has cracked the underlying encryption which allows them to print bitcoins at will.

Let's just suppose the worst case scenario Wink

Some people provide goods/services and accept btc payment, if they could still accept btc payment even btc exchange price is zero, that will give it some basic support, but is there any merchant provide exchange rate independant btc price for their service today?
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The only reason the price will go to 0 is if there ends up being more than 21 million coins meaning someone has cracked the underlying encryption which allows them to print bitcoins at will.
legendary
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Everytime, when I tried to advertise bitcoin to my friends, the typical question they asked is: What is this thing backed by? What's the use of it?

Although I can explain to them that it is backed by mathematics and P2P network, and you can use it to buy anything online, it still does not make them feel safe enough, since that is real money, they are afraid of it's just a scam or a bubble

Just like MBS, CDS, eventually they are backed by a house, which is needed by majority of people, so no matter how abstract in concept and construction they are, they still get accepted. Because a house is a house, even the price crashed to 0, it still can provide some utility and that is the reason the price will never drop too much

"If the USD exchange price of this thing drop to 0, what is the use of it?"
There is an answer for gold/silver/diamond/house, even WoW gold
But there is no answer for bond/stock/options/futures

So it seems bitcoin fall into the second category, e.g. a financial security, and unlike bond/stock/options/futures, it has no underlying base instrument, or to say it is based purely on some promises

If we could find some good use of bitcoin even when the exchange price is 0, then it will flourish for sure
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