Topic: Whats causing the sudden fast price rise? (Read 4034 times)
microsoft news caused a temporary fast rise yesterday. a fast rise will again create a lot of selling pressure from miners. the faster we rise, the deeper we fall, volatility remains an issue... i'd just like to see a slower climb
There is rumors saying that russia is going to legalize bitcoin, forum in china is spreading it.
no big news, causing this ?
Bot on OKCoin and everybody just followed along. It's entirely irrational... but can't short into this type of volatility. It's nuts.
Jesus, so go long. FWIW, this is how Bitcoin goes up. It's easily more of a mind blowing shit show than the nice little short fest all you bears have had the pleasure of the past 10 months.
It'll climb some ungodly percentage, the holders will rejoice, and then it will bleed off for months. Consider this your first foray into the up swings of Bitcoin.
The market is controlled by traders with large bankrolls, not small-time bitcoin enthusiasts. Some people or a person with a large bankroll is buying a lot, for whatever reason - it's really as simple as that.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
So if they buy big surely later they aim for a profit or they have a plan for the coins right? Its at $543 AUD and rising fast still... this morning it was $439... Thats crazy in 24 hours!
Chinese whale doing something strategic. Purely for tax/legal reasons or buying both "normally" and with leverage in order to sell into the rally he sparked at some point (and profit).
we know nothing, just on abord hurry up
Short squeeze / manipulation on Bitfinex. It will be in the bitcoin news sites once we surge higher. It was inevitable. That, and the self-fulfilling prophecy of what could happen after Silk Road 2.0 closed, coincidentally 1 year after it opened - a bit strange, don't you think?
Also, maybe that Russia is removing penalties on bitcoin. And maybe that Russia/China just made an oil agreement that could hurt the US dollar.
Short squeeze charts: http://bfxdata.com/bitfinexLiquidityBTC.php
Bitfinex has been trailing OKCoin by a very significant amount the entire day. They're just been reacting to the rest of the market. Volume today on OKCoin was huge and not overly manipulated - somebody bought a truckload of coins. Also, maybe that Russia is removing penalties on bitcoin. And maybe that Russia/China just made an oil agreement that could hurt the US dollar.
Short squeeze charts: http://bfxdata.com/bitfinexLiquidityBTC.php
This upswing is not sustainable.
You always hear that during these rallies. It's hard to call the top. Sure: there will be exponential blowoff and healthy correction, but when? Noone can really tell. Hell, it could double or even be a ten-bagger before it corrects substantially.
This is Bitcoin!
more people are buying than selling 
this.
but why?
because: buyers have been holding back their purchases in hopes of even lower prices (continuation of the bear market).
It's becoming increasingly likely and clear that aint gonna happen (sub $275), so buyer jump in in panic.
Add to that low ask-side liquidity and you get what we see.
The question is how far we go. Is this the big one already that breaks the ATH? I doubt it. There will be a healthy correction or 2 or 3 before that happens sometime next year. I'd love to be surprised, though.
This upswing is not sustainable.
Surely it is as adoption grows. If it wasn't we'd still be at $1 back when people were saying that. I have no doubt one day a bitcoin could be $10,000 USD i'm not talking 1 or 2 years or short time but as adoption grows over maybe 5-10 years sure.
I just expected slow growths and not huge explosions.
Adoption is the key and getting it out to people for awareness.. i think that tipping bot thing for reddit is awesome. Just wait till tipping hits facebook and youtube.
The market is controlled by traders with large bankrolls, not small-time bitcoin enthusiasts. Some people or a person with a large bankroll is buying a lot, for whatever reason - it's really as simple as that.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
So if they buy big surely later they aim for a profit or they have a plan for the coins right? Its at $543 AUD and rising fast still... this morning it was $439... Thats crazy in 24 hours!
They might have been waiting until they are certain the bottom is in before buying. In that case they might wait until the ATH before selling.
The market is controlled by traders with large bankrolls, not small-time bitcoin enthusiasts. Some people or a person with a large bankroll is buying a lot, for whatever reason - it's really as simple as that.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
So if they buy big surely later they aim for a profit or they have a plan for the coins right? Its at $543 AUD and rising fast still... this morning it was $439... Thats crazy in 24 hours!
Bot on OKCoin and everybody just followed along. It's entirely irrational... but can't short into this type of volatility. It's nuts.
Jesus, so go long. FWIW, this is how Bitcoin goes up. It's easily more of a mind blowing shit show than the nice little short fest all you bears have had the pleasure of the past 10 months.
It'll climb some ungodly percentage, the holders will rejoice, and then it will bleed off for months. Consider this your first foray into the up swings of Bitcoin.
I'm just around here for fun, looking at train pictures etc.
I just found the link somewhere.
I just found the link somewhere.
The market is controlled by traders with large bankrolls, not small-time bitcoin enthusiasts. Some people or a person with a large bankroll is buying a lot, for whatever reason - it's really as simple as that.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
Most of the buying is originating from OKCoin, which is only natural, considering it's the largest and most liquid exchange.
Do you think people can only trade on news of their own country?
Are you a talmudic scholar? Answer the question, don't ask me question. Can you explain your hypothesis or not? China is buying because of this: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112901/ukraine-hardens-stance-on-bitcoin-as-russia-lowers-proposed-penalties-for-crypto-users
Why does regulatory stances in Ukraine and Russia cause China to buy? Please explain...My guess is that bitcoin had a lot of attention from the media this year and tons of people felt uncomfortable to get in at these high rate. Now that the bear market is over, all the people who waited before buying during the last months are rushing in a the same time.
Disagree 100%.If it was the Russian news, BTC-e would be leading this... it's just a bot.
Do you think people can only trade on news of their own country?
When Russia said they were going to sanction trading activities... BTC-e screamed and it was part of our dive. It was at least $20 down more than the other exchanges. Wouldn't you expect at least some sort of resemblance of that pattern, here? No? There are not a disproportionate number of traders from a region that shares the same banking and proximity?
China is buying because of this: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112901/ukraine-hardens-stance-on-bitcoin-as-russia-lowers-proposed-penalties-for-crypto-users
Why does regulatory stances in Ukraine and Russia cause China to buy? Please explain...My guess is that bitcoin had a lot of attention from the media this year and tons of people felt uncomfortable to get in at these high rate. Now that the bear market is over, all the people who waited before buying during the last months are rushing in a the same time.
Disagree 100%.If it was the Russian news, BTC-e would be leading this... it's just a bot.
Do you think people can only trade on news of their own country?
China is buying because of this: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112901/ukraine-hardens-stance-on-bitcoin-as-russia-lowers-proposed-penalties-for-crypto-users
Why does regulatory stances in Ukraine and Russia cause China to buy? Please explain...My guess is that bitcoin had a lot of attention from the media this year and tons of people felt uncomfortable to get in at these high rate. Now that the bear market is over, all the people who waited before buying during the last months are rushing in a the same time.
Disagree 100%.If it was the Russian news, BTC-e would be leading this... it's just a bot.
Some insiders get some great news? Like COIN or something?
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