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therefore they have always
lied from the start with the data they provided regarding the COVID-19 situation in their country. They do this so that the vaccines they make
can be bought by many countries. In the end, China wants to improve the country's economy.

They always lied to the real situation around in their country and they really don't show the real stats since they want to dominate in economic matters, maybe this time around they will show to the world that they are totally fine so that their economical transactions will not be stop due to fear of the said virus. Maybe the one we can do for now if we are in that place or neighbor country is to be careful on what we are dealing and always sanitize what we receive coming directly from that country.

I do the same with you, always sanitize all the goods I order from China. Because I don't believe China is doing well, especially since the population
in China is very dense, it should spread very quickly. Until now there is no medication that can stop the spread of the corona virus, So all
countries including China must have difficulty stopping the spread of the corona virus. So always be aware of us in living life now, don't be
careless, always follow the health protocols.

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Quote from: Refrumatrix on July 16, 2021, 08:49:54 AM

Anyone shopping from China lately? I think CoV19 is slowly showing up in China again, I ordered for some GPU from China and I got message that I might not get my orders fully delivered to me because of ongoing covid shit in China again, here is a screenshot

What, that's a plausible reason, I don't think so, it's too much for order and delivery, I don't believe it even though Google also says the same thing, China is too much in the news of covid, I recently had a friend come back from China on the condition that he must have a vaccine certificate, he said he was fine in all matter.

I suggest for you to buy GPU in your country online, you are safer for your order.
Why should you buy GPUs in China, are you trading or reselling GPUs in bulk.

We have the same thing in our nation as well, even though we have some other type of problems, we still somehow check the vaccination cards or whatever they are called for the people who come to our nation, or come back. I rarely ever leave my home so I do not know how seriously it's taken but at the end of the day there is a law about it.

It is not just about china so it seems, there was a moment when sinovac was not accepted as acceptable for Europe if I am not wrong, so if you had sinovac then you couldn't go to europe neither, but at the end I do not know if that still is going on. What I really wonder however is the fact that Chinese people are fine with all of this? Or are they too afraid to come out? I mean we all know, we just KNOW that they have more problems than they show but for some reason they are not coming out and saying this.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 20, 2021, 07:42:12 AM

Even after paying taxes, commodities from China will be cheaper than those that are available from European domestic producers.

Indeed. But keep in mind that shipping also has its costs and pennies after pennies everything is adding up, especially as we are individuals buying small stuff here and there. And at the end, bigger companies buying entire containers will be able to sell in local shops at same or even lower price.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 20, 2021, 07:42:12 AM

Even here in India, previously a lot of people used to purchase directly from Alibaba and the vendors in China used to mark the packets as "gift" in order to avoid customs duty. But the government has now eradicated this loophole.

Lately AliExpress adds the taxes in the last step before paying. You may end up paying more than you expected, but on the other hand it fixes exactly this kind of abnormal loopholes.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 20, 2021, 07:15:24 AM

I don't know if it was 10 EUR or 20 EUR, but yes, I have the same dilemma.
Those are no longer as profitable as they were in the past and for the later few I already have to pay tax.
Ordering from China may not become "a think of the past" but will most probably become much less frequent.
Ohwell, nothing (good) lasts forever

Even after paying taxes, commodities from China will be cheaper than those that are available from European domestic producers. BTW, I don't think that a large number of individuals directly import stuff from China. It is not strictly legal, and in case you make frequent purchases, then it may put you in some sort of trouble. Even here in India, previously a lot of people used to purchase directly from Alibaba and the vendors in China used to mark the packets as "gift" in order to avoid customs duty. But the government has now eradicated this loophole.

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I last bought goods from China a month ago and there was no problem, finally the goods arrived in my country according to the estimate given.
It's possible that the situation there is getting worse, that's why the OP got the message. Indeed, no one knows the truth other than the Chinese themselves, there is no other way but to be patient. After all, in some countries, the spread of COVID-19 has increased again, maybe because COVID-19 has released a new variant. We all have to be patient in the current situation, hopefully a cure for COVID-19 can be found soon, so we can all live normally again.

In china the news do not come to us very clearly, we all know that they censor all the news coming out of their nation, and it is obvious that their numbers are fake as well, nobody can deny that. We are talking about the nation that this came out of and they claim that they only had 14 new infected everyday on average, do you really believe that? A whole nation of 1+ billion people ended up with just 14 new infected every day? I am sure it is AT LEAST in thousands, probably in 10k+ range but they are just not sharing that.

So do not believe in anything you hear from them, it could be true that they are sending stuff very late because of covid, or they could be sending without problem. Either they are lying about covid situation being better there and it is worse and sending stuff is harder, or maybe the people who sent that message to OP are lying, could be either.

therefore they have always
lied from the start with the data they provided regarding the COVID-19 situation in their country. They do this so that the vaccines they make
can be bought by many countries. In the end, China wants to improve the country's economy.

They always lied to the real situation around in their country and they really don't show the real stats since they want to dominate in economic matters, maybe this time around they will show to the world that they are totally fine so that their economical transactions will not be stop due to fear of the said virus. Maybe the one we can do for now if we are in that place or neighbor country is to be careful on what we are dealing and always sanitize what we receive coming directly from that country.

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The only new thing was that now that I also had to pay some taxes and VAT, but I'm from EU.

Unfortunately, it is no longer possible to import small packages in the EU up to, I think, 20 EUR worth without paying customs duties and VAT, which in most cases makes such a purchase unprofitable. My packages came with a big delay at the beginning of the pandemic and I haven't ordered anything since then because of that, and as things stand now, I think ordering from China will become a thing of the past for me.

I don't know if it was 10 EUR or 20 EUR, but yes, I have the same dilemma.
Those are no longer as profitable as they were in the past and for the later few I already have to pay tax.
Ordering from China may not become "a think of the past" but will most probably become much less frequent.
Ohwell, nothing (good) lasts forever

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Only someone from China can validate that. AFAIK, their lives were back in normal but still with some strong protocols being followed. Maybe that manufacturer that you've ordered the GPU is still observing strict protocols for orders abroad. Or that could also be a front for their no stock.
Who knows? no one really knows the actual thing there.

I texted someone from China he is actually a dealer that sells graphic cards and he confirmed that shipping is very slow now due to covid vaccination, only few freights are permitted to leave, I think they are doing all they can to safe those whom the goods belongs to

Thanks. That's a good information then that they've been now affected due to vaccination and again related to covid-19. Despite that they've been known to be one of the countries that have beat covid-19, they're still making precautionary measures to stop its spread.

Better to know that as there are people who still aiming to have those cards and might be saddened due to this kind of delays,

but it's better to know that there are protocols that needs to follow before the people from China can deal with sending their

orders, tough situations and needs to follow strictly.

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Quote from: Refrumatrix on July 16, 2021, 08:49:54 AM

Anyone shopping from China lately? I think CoV19 is slowly showing up in China again, I ordered for some GPU from China and I got message that I might not get my orders fully delivered to me because of ongoing covid shit in China again, here is a screenshot

Even there are news concerning this on Google too

Well, I have also seen a news like that that there is another outbreak in China. But I am not sure how true that is. It’s been quite a long time that I saw that, and here you are with the same news. Don’t you think that it is best that you totally avoid buying anything from there for now? In a country where there is such outbreak, you’re likely to find those viruses on containers that are being sent out to other countries. So you just have to be very careful, and even if you do buy anything from there , you have to be really careful with it.Know you can be safe by avoiding that area for now.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 18, 2021, 07:15:03 AM

I last bought goods from China a month ago and there was no problem, finally the goods arrived in my country according to the estimate given.
It's possible that the situation there is getting worse, that's why the OP got the message. Indeed, no one knows the truth other than the Chinese themselves, there is no other way but to be patient. After all, in some countries, the spread of COVID-19 has increased again, maybe because COVID-19 has released a new variant. We all have to be patient in the current situation, hopefully a cure for COVID-19 can be found soon, so we can all live normally again.

In china the news do not come to us very clearly, we all know that they censor all the news coming out of their nation, and it is obvious that their numbers are fake as well, nobody can deny that. We are talking about the nation that this came out of and they claim that they only had 14 new infected everyday on average, do you really believe that? A whole nation of 1+ billion people ended up with just 14 new infected every day? I am sure it is AT LEAST in thousands, probably in 10k+ range but they are just not sharing that.

So do not believe in anything you hear from them, it could be true that they are sending stuff very late because of covid, or they could be sending without problem. Either they are lying about covid situation being better there and it is worse and sending stuff is harder, or maybe the people who sent that message to OP are lying, could be either.

I agree that China is indeed a country that filters incoming news and censors outgoing news. so news coming from China can't be trusted 100%.
We have to have insiders in China to get the real news, even then there are some facts that the Chinese government hides from its citizens.
The Chinese government will indeed do everything possible to make the country look good in dealing with COVID-19, therefore they have always
lied from the start with the data they provided regarding the COVID-19 situation in their country. They do this so that the vaccines they make
can be bought by many countries. In the end, China wants to improve the country's economy.

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Quote from: FloridaKid on July 19, 2021, 02:44:45 AM

Quote from: tabas on July 18, 2021, 06:30:56 AM

Only someone from China can validate that. AFAIK, their lives were back in normal but still with some strong protocols being followed. Maybe that manufacturer that you've ordered the GPU is still observing strict protocols for orders abroad. Or that could also be a front for their no stock.
Who knows? no one really knows the actual thing there.

I texted someone from China he is actually a dealer that sells graphic cards and he confirmed that shipping is very slow now due to covid vaccination, only few freights are permitted to leave, I think they are doing all they can to safe those whom the goods belongs to

Thanks. That's a good information then that they've been now affected due to vaccination and again related to covid-19. Despite that they've been known to be one of the countries that have beat covid-19, they're still making precautionary measures to stop its spread.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 18, 2021, 07:15:03 AM

I last bought goods from China a month ago and there was no problem, finally the goods arrived in my country according to the estimate given.
It's possible that the situation there is getting worse, that's why the OP got the message. Indeed, no one knows the truth other than the Chinese themselves, there is no other way but to be patient. After all, in some countries, the spread of COVID-19 has increased again, maybe because COVID-19 has released a new variant. We all have to be patient in the current situation, hopefully a cure for COVID-19 can be found soon, so we can all live normally again.

In china the news do not come to us very clearly, we all know that they censor all the news coming out of their nation, and it is obvious that their numbers are fake as well, nobody can deny that. We are talking about the nation that this came out of and they claim that they only had 14 new infected everyday on average, do you really believe that? A whole nation of 1+ billion people ended up with just 14 new infected every day? I am sure it is AT LEAST in thousands, probably in 10k+ range but they are just not sharing that.

So do not believe in anything you hear from them, it could be true that they are sending stuff very late because of covid, or they could be sending without problem. Either they are lying about covid situation being better there and it is worse and sending stuff is harder, or maybe the people who sent that message to OP are lying, could be either.

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I am so glad that China is finally feeling the problems of their wrongdoings. They have ignored all the troublesome news that came out of China, and now they are financially not doing as good as they used to.

This is just one example, second one is the fact that manufacturers are moving their stuff to other nations, like for example Apple moving a lot of stuff to India and Bangladesh which are still cheap compared to Europe or USA, but they are also high quality and those nations do not have any human right violations as much as I am aware, specially India which is at least a decent nation, sure just like any other nation in the world they face problems but compared to China? They are heaven. So, all these manufacturing and logistics problems will eventually ruin China and cause them to revolt against the dictatorship once again, all we need is not keep paying them trillions.

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Quote from: Refrumatrix on July 16, 2021, 08:49:54 AM

Anyone shopping from China lately? I think CoV19 is slowly showing up in China again, I ordered for some GPU from China and I got message that I might not get my orders fully delivered to me because of ongoing covid shit in China again, here is a screenshot

What, that's a plausible reason, I don't think so, it's too much for order and delivery, I don't believe it even though Google also says the same thing, China is too much in the news of covid, I recently had a friend come back from China on the condition that he must have a vaccine certificate, he said he was fine in all matter.

I suggest for you to buy GPU in your country online, you are safer for your order.
Why should you buy GPUs in China, are you trading or reselling GPUs in bulk.

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Quote from: tabas on July 18, 2021, 06:30:56 AM

Only someone from China can validate that. AFAIK, their lives were back in normal but still with some strong protocols being followed. Maybe that manufacturer that you've ordered the GPU is still observing strict protocols for orders abroad. Or that could also be a front for their no stock.
Who knows? no one really knows the actual thing there.

I texted someone from China he is actually a dealer that sells graphic cards and he confirmed that shipping is very slow now due to covid vaccination, only few freights are permitted to leave, I think they are doing all they can to safe those whom the goods belongs to

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So it's not only make human difficult to move but goods too. Before, I think that we can still survive although merchants only sell goods via online and the goods will be send through delivery service. It seems that it's not as easy as I think. In my opinion China still has big influence on bitcoin although not as big as in the past so I think I still need to know about what happens in china. I am not so worry but I just need more information to make decisions in trading. I hope we are stay safe and healthy.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 18, 2021, 07:15:03 AM

Quote from: tabas on July 18, 2021, 06:30:56 AM

Only someone from China can validate that. AFAIK, their lives were back in normal but still with some strong protocols being followed. Maybe that manufacturer that you've ordered the GPU is still observing strict protocols for orders abroad. Or that could also be a front for their no stock.
Who knows? no one really knows the actual thing there.

I last bought goods from China a month ago and there was no problem, finally the goods arrived in my country according to the estimate given.
It's possible that the situation there is getting worse, that's why the OP got the message. Indeed, no one knows the truth other than
the Chinese themselves, there is no other way but to be patient. After all, in some countries, the spread of COVID-19 has increased again,
maybe because COVID-19 has released a new variant. We all have to be patient in the current situation, hopefully a cure for COVID-19 can be
found soon, so we can all live normally again.

We don't know. It's rare to get some piece of news from that country anymore about covid-19. Because what we usually know is that there's no longer this type surge and trouble again.
As we know, they're one of the first countries that have isolated themselves and beat the pandemic as they were the start of it.

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Quote from: sapnu on July 18, 2021, 09:51:31 AM

Considering how the pandemic started a year ago and how quickly they were able to recover, it is quite surprising to see them going on with the same crisis again. We are all aware how powerful and how advance the technology in China is yet they are suffering the severity of the virus. Just imagine how bad it is going on for other countries right now. On the past month, India experienced a second wave that led to the death of millions and there are even mass cremation held. The pandemic has worsen the world's state and it will show up more in the next few years in terms of economy.

We can't really tell if they have done dealing with this pandemic but we all know that this covid is taking too long to disappear. Unlike with those viruses before the government will have an immediate support to fight the virus before it turns out to pandemic but now, it's quite surprising we have to deal with it for almost 2 years and yet another type of virus showed up. What a great coincidence, I wonder if there will be new type of variant next year that would be an awesome excuse to make another lock down. They are really killing the economy of the other country especially the third world country.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 16, 2021, 09:18:11 AM

I often buy in China. They don't write anything like that to me. There is no big concern over the pandemic. China is a country where people are vaccinated with 2 million vaccines a day. If all nations were as disciplined, the pandemic would have ended long ago.

You know that the vaccine does not stop you from getting Covid... right? Yes, it might be less severe and you might show less symptoms, but you still get it. In Israel and other countries where almost everyone are vaccinated, 60%+ of the infections are from people who were vaccinated. Wink

When they first launched AstraZeneca in my country, they said it was 98% foolproof... then suddenly the virus muted and it rendered the AstraZeneca vaccine .....useless, because it could not protect you against the new strain. Grin

In any way, virus infections come in waves (outbreaks) ...so our new world will see cycles of outbreaks and China is no different from any other country. Wink

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Quote from: Refrumatrix on July 16, 2021, 08:49:54 AM

Anyone shopping from China lately? I think CoV19 is slowly showing up in China again, I ordered for some GPU from China and I got message that I might not get my orders fully delivered to me because of ongoing covid shit in China again, here is a screenshot

Even there are news concerning this on Google too

Considering how the pandemic started a year ago and how quickly they were able to recover, it is quite surprising to see them going on with the same crisis again. We are all aware how powerful and how advance the technology in China is yet they are suffering the severity of the virus. Just imagine how bad it is going on for other countries right now. On the past month, India experienced a second wave that led to the death of millions and there are even mass cremation held. The pandemic has worsen the world's state and it will show up more in the next few years in terms of economy.

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Quote from: tabas on July 18, 2021, 06:30:56 AM

Only someone from China can validate that. AFAIK, their lives were back in normal but still with some strong protocols being followed. Maybe that manufacturer that you've ordered the GPU is still observing strict protocols for orders abroad. Or that could also be a front for their no stock.
Who knows? no one really knows the actual thing there.

I last bought goods from China a month ago and there was no problem, finally the goods arrived in my country according to the estimate given.
It's possible that the situation there is getting worse, that's why the OP got the message. Indeed, no one knows the truth other than
the Chinese themselves, there is no other way but to be patient. After all, in some countries, the spread of COVID-19 has increased again,
maybe because COVID-19 has released a new variant. We all have to be patient in the current situation, hopefully a cure for COVID-19 can be
found soon, so we can all live normally again.

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