Topic: What's minor thing that you find appreciative on Bitcointalk? (Read 807 times)

Love the disciplinary nature of this forum (not sure if it is major or minor) but i really appreciate that. and i see because of it many forum members are really working hard to meet up to standard, both in view of things and the post content.
And i appreciate the simplicity of the forum, user friendly for newbies and old timers. 

I like the fact that it has remained intact since the beginning. Nothing has changed since I first joined in 2014, and even if you look way back, there were minimal changes. It's minimal, functional, and loads quickly. That's its beauty. It didn't have to modernize itself.

It's certainly the only forum I've seen featuring such an opportunity. However, posting quality has severely improved after the merit system was introduced. Those lacking merit couldn't rank up and were rarely accepted into decent campaigns. The altcoin discussion board is more prone to spam posts. My best guess is that it is due to the abundance of bounty campaigns being offered.
I recently created a thread abusing the edit function. As long as you do not post bursts of gibberish in an attempt to edit your posts later, you'll be fine. Myself included, have edited posts well after the 10 minute grace period, either because I found a grammar mistake which I hadn't seen beforehand, or because I forgot to add a tiny bit of information. I am not going to alter the whole meaning of the post, nor will I edit its content a whole day after its creation, but a few minutes after posting it is fine.

Foxxy, if I write here the thought I have in my head after clicking on that link, you might then require an IQ test for the Cycling Club team--so I'm not gonna write it.  Suffice to say, I am content to eat my words and my hat and hope that we're still cuddlebuddies.

I've got so much retard in my head, it's laughable.

I don't have any data to look at--or know where to find any, for that matter--but I'm assuming that right now there's a very high demand for campaign/bounty participants, so it's almost like 2015 where you just check the Services section, apply, and *boom* you're in. 

For those of you who weren't here in 2015, Yobit had a strong presence, as did Secondstrade, both of which would basically accept anybody into their campaigns.  I'm not even sure if they had a limit as to how many participants they accepted.  And man, if you'd saved everything you'd earned by being in one of those for a year or two, you'd be strollin' round yo nebbahood like a pimp-ass boss righaboutnow.  Yobit paid 30k sats/post IIRC and you could make 10 posts/day.  If anyone knows the actual numbers on that, please feel free to check me, but that's what I remember.

Yeah, I know Discourse, I use several forums with this software. I also like IPS Focus forums. But IMO, things which fits for other forums, it doesn't neccessarily will work well on Bitcointalk. Especially when forum moves to new software, such things almost never happens smoothly. After such changes it happens often that some old content aren't displayed properly.
Bitcointalk software may be outdated,but it works well in general. But fact that in 2022 we still don't have 2FA is sad.

Distancing yourself a bit from the post and coming back to it later with a clear mind helps. While you are writing, you have the ideas and expressions in your head. It all sounds right and logic in your mind, but you might be writing it down wrongly or making silly mistakes that you don't notice at first because you repeat the story differently in your mind. If you think about something completely irrelevant to your post and you come back to it to check what you wrote, it's like a completely different perspective or a new set of eyes.

As long as signature campaign managers are doing their due diligence before accepting someone onto their campaign, then it really isn't an issue. Ideally, they should already be hiring quality posters, and editing is something that we all do.

Plus, I doubt many users abuse the ten minute period, since they would've just posted whatever they edited to in the first place. It's mainly used for correcting mistakes, since reading your post after the preview I find highlights more mistakes, not completely sure why that's the case, but I guess it's just sod's law.

I don't see any point in it. We have ways to check what the original content looked like. Sometimes there is a type or a grammatical mistake you don't notice the first time you preview your post. And then when someone quotes you or you read your post a few hours later, you notice a mistake. Editing it isn't bad in anyway. I have often done it.

What baffles me is that some actually made it into signature or bounty campaigns. Like this guy that could create a deity coin out of thin air.

That was one of the goofiest posts I've read in a long time--so much so that I think it deserves merits.  I must warn you, however, that I'm not one to mistake post length with post quality.  Keep that in mind since I'm periodically reviewing your post history for you.

Speaking of things I appreciate about the forum, humor is one of them and it doesn't seem like there's been a lot of it lately, at least in the sections I frequent.  Granted, bitcointalk has never been a forum infused with laughs, but there was a time when members like TMAN, Lauda, and others would drop bombs on people and hilarity usually ensued.  Even some of the more persistent trolls like cryptohunter were funny in their own way (but goddamn I'm happy he's gone), or weirdos like Fwdxlsh, mammabitcoin2u, and that strange dude who would write English in such a strange way and say things like "I am the PRO LOANDER of this place".  Anyone remember the name of that member?  His posts were always, always funny.  Gleb Gamow and MPOE-PR as well, and they're both gone.

My point is, whether writing in witty or biting English or just spewing gibberish, there were members who used to make their presence known just by writing entertaining stuff.  Nowadays?  Eh.  Meh.  Bleh.

I love to speak freely in this forum. no matter who I talk to. and I like it when other people don't find out who I am. That's what makes me comfortable here. and my greatest appreciation in this bitcointalk forum is that. free to talk to each member without having to get acquainted first.

We don't know each other here, but it feels strangely familiar. we don't even hesitate to express our opinion.

In the physical world we need to get to know each other and become familiar to be able to freely express opinions to each other. but here we are free to have opinions without having to know each other and strangely feel still familiar. my appreciation for that.

To be honest with you, I'm yet to find any article in that light. Even, search engines don't bring up this forum as a site one could earn from and I don't know why it's that way. As long as I know ( I'm sure others also know it) this forum is about the only legitimate social media site where people post and get paid.

I don't have any problem if campaigns make it a rule of thumb to jettison any posts that's edited from qualified posts. The only side effect is that we will begin to get more seemingly unreadable posts fraught with errors because those who discover their mistakes after posting them won't want to correct them once the five minutes window before it reflects that it has been edited has elapsed.

Well, why not? If it is specified in the company signature rules that edited messages will not be accepted, then participants always have the opportunity to preview and verify. This is a kind of draft. I checked and pressed the submit button. What is the problem? In addition, there are cases of incorrect quoting. In this case, when sending a report to the moderators, the post will be deleted. But if people check everything that they write, there will be no such incidents either.

After the 2017 ICO craze, I think that somewhat changed. Even if it isn't from signature campaigns a lot of users now signing up seem to be bounty hunters, which is predominately about earning money whichever way they can, even if they don't consider the project worth it, they seem to sign up anyway. There's a ton of bots that just sign up to every single bounty. So, I do think the reputation for Bitcointalk is that you can earn a decent amount of money here. Obviously, it's hard to know for sure, since we've all been here a long time, and therefore it's hard to disconnect from that, and figure out the outside perception.

We'd probably find articles suggesting you can earn money here though.

Discourse nearly got it right. It's fairly easy to add additional content to it, but the default implementation has too much fancy crap going on, which ultimately makes me hating the software. If you aren't aware what Discourse is, it's probably one of the most popular forum software in recent years. I've got to use it with certain forums, since I need answers now, and again.

Like I said though, I don't find this forum software too outdated. It does the job, without anything annoying me too much. What I would love to see is two factor authentication, just for peace of mind. Would need to be implemented correctly though, which would be a concern.

good question, I don't even know what to answer, let me to think about it. I like that forum is simple and in general it didn't changed much since days when satoshi was there. Partially, it's disadvantage that forum is a bit outdated, but there is no some fancy shit like on other forums what isn't not needed at all IMO. And merit system, I won't lie, it's good feeling when you get merit.

You told exactly what I'm thinking. In reddit and social networks like Facebook best content is supposed to be on the top. But in the end, it's not best, but most popular content. And if there is many comments under post, yeah, you'll see top comments, but it's very likely that you will miss many good comments. This is why I prefer chronological order.

I don't really know to what extent of a hysteria posters will be thrown into if all signature campaigns make it a criteria to qualify eligible posts. Those edited will be disqualified. I believe it will cause the type of panic introduction of the merit system caused.

Don't be too certain that those outside this forum know that. I didn't know there was a forum one could make posts and get paid until I stumbled onto this form.

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Something I find minor but glad it happens is when I see forum members extend hands of fellowship and help to others, especially when focused and hardworking posters who are in need of merits are helped to rank up. It gladdens my heart.

I like the free flow of information and exchange of opinions. I like the freedoms we have, but I don't like the freedoms given to proven scammers.
I like that you can be pro or anti anything, and you won't be silenced or shown the way out. Unless you break forum rules in the process. You can praise, criticize, make fun of, attack, or cry to theymos and nothing will happen to you. Btw, any ETA on My 30 questions for theymos?     

I don't like the way Reddit (or any social media nowadays) shows information: a computer decides what's most likely to keep your attention on the page (and maximize profits from advertising). I prefer to choose what to read on my own.

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I appreciate the freedom of speech Bitcointalk offers, and the thick-skinned Admin who basically allows people to call him whatever they want. Not many forums do that.

Could have been I who misunderstood that post, but it doesn't matter now as I understood what your reply was about better.

Most of the newer forums are more interested in replicating bitcointalk, than actually being a place for constructive discussions, hence they start off by using incentives to get people to use their platform, attracting spammers looking for a quick buck in the process.

I thought that you were talking about forums in general as that's what the posts you quoted were about. Unless I completely misunderstood them.


I don't think that there is any other crypto forum that is active enough for advertisers to start signature campaign. Afaik altcointalk also has signatures but I don't think that there is anyone running singnature campaign that pays in bitcoin.

I was referring to crypto forums in particular. If those forums were crypto inclined, they would have never needed to worry about how projects can pay participants anonymously, as they would understand how Bitcoin works.

I am not as frequent on different forums, so there could be some reputable crypto inclined ones which have enough traffic to monetize it somehow, but choose no to through sigs or avatars. I was speaking on my personal observation.

There are many reputable forums so I don't think that's the main issue. Question still remains how come no other old&reputable forums (at least none that I am active on)  never tried with signature & avatar campaigns. One of the reasons could be how exactly to pay the people (and to remain anonymous), and bitcoin proved to be perfect for that.

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Its hardly a minor thing, but I do appreciate the freedom bitcointalk provides, something that all other forums seriously lack off.

Given what I've learnt so far, the knowledge gained here cannot be undervalued. We can never repay seeing those with enormous knowledge who are willing to share it for free. Before joining this forum, I knew nothing about bitcoin, just knew it was a digital currency that can be used as money but now that I have learned more, I am able to explain bitcoin to someone who is just starting to learn about it. I used to think of the Bitcoin chart as a monitor showing the lifeline of a hospital patient who is ill, rising and falling. Even though I can't completely forecast how the chart will appear over the next few days, I now understand what it signifies and how to read it. The knowledge I've gained from this forum is immeasurable, and I'll always be thankful to everyone who has helped us and the creator of this platform.

I have yet to find a public forum that provides an act of love and humanity anyplace on the internet like Bitcointalk. I've seen a lot of posts in this forum where people have donated money to help out suffering families, especially those who have lost loved ones in floods and war.  I have read through some trying times of corona threads and hundreds and thousands of dollars donated to locals through this forum. Where does this occur on the internet? Even the so-called Gofundme takes time for people to donate, but Bitcointalk members are always quick to respond to the problems of others and that gives me goosebumps, these show that people are kind regardless of our differences, Bitcointalk has proved it several times.

Right, I think my post will be highly appreciated by people when they send a merit system that is an award for me for posts that I think are good or quality. lol 

I prefer people who are humble but they give good treatment at least they give manners everywhere.


But what's on the forum all discussions are still appreciated.

I think that's the key difference here. Reddit can be read in a hurry, and therefore it's a better system for certain types of content. However, Bitcointalk is designed to be read in a chronological order, and therefore everything read to keep relevant in the discussion.

The merit system probably wouldn't work as well with a upvote system either, since it becomes about popularity, and I like discovering newbies with good points to be made. I know it works on Reddit, obviously it's a very popular platform, but I just think from a discussion point of view I prefer the implementation here.

What I do like, from the forum software "discourse" is everyone can reply to a specific message, and it has a drop down menu. That system is chronological, but also has that additional functionality. It's just a shame that Discourse has a lot of other additional functionality which comes across messy. It's like they've tried to revolutionise every feature, which just congests it. I do like the quote system though.

I totally get some of your points, but the sort of "stepped" system of responses on Reddit is really underappreciated. In contrast to Bitcointalk, where you'd have to scroll down and check a few pages to see if someone has replied to someone's reply through a quote.

e.g.

Bitcointalk can change the way you do things. Learn new stuff everyday. Share your knowledge. Make profits and meet great people you won't find in real world.
Beside knowing that this forum is made by the legend who invented bitcoin blockchain
The forum i find it perfect and very simple to use for everyone

Efficiency is good in some ways, but in other ways it isn't. It suits Reddit because it's mainly a in the moment, hype, sort of relevancy website, whereas Bitcointalk is about discussion. Having discussion being interrupted by who thinks what deserves to be seen more than others isn't exactly a discussion, it's a popularity contest.

I like Reddit for reading certain things, however to contribute there would be an absolute nightmare, hence why I don't have an account, and just use it for reading material. When I need to know something quick, and have the most accepted answer right there in front of me, that's usually the place I go for non technical stuff, whereas StackExchange would be my go to for more technical stuff.

I like the discussion element of this forum, and there's no hiding of posts because you simply disagree with them. Have you ever seen those "unpopular opinion...but" type of posts, the posters know it's not a unpopular opinion, and therefore it gets upvotes. The whole place is like that, most of the time replies aren't even answering the question, it's who came across the funniest.

That's personally why I don't like Reddit. Plus, the upvote system is usually misused on mass, which also contribute towards my dislike, especially when I don't like how things are implemented to begin with.

Bitcointalk is a discussion forum, not a Q&A or a place where people become to be funny or hip. I like that. 

....and yunno the one thing that keeps surprising me?
I came after a genius left,VOD
well maybe, this looks very ODD
some group of incurruptibles interviewed the brain-box,if he's married or if atleast he plays some CHORDS
but theymos,in his persona,has never or if at all he has,said only few WORDS

an applausible colony of newbies register daily,this makes me WONDER
why we have alot registering and only a few to stay atleast till NOVEMBER?
maybe the rules were too cumbersome for thier brains or maybe they weren't given sometime to PONDER?
.. finally get stuck on meta posting shits like "help, why I banned" while the motivated strives through pain and HUNGER

I realize Theymos uses almost 700 days to "impound" and/or propound any ethical idea,so I said TRULY
This man's accessible to anyone so I conclude he isn't arrogant. To others, that ain't no BULLY
pretty clear that 1xbit are earning from some petty-pranks and they mobilize "ndito awove" with them which is UNRULY
These are my wonders, I have alot more but for now,hope I'm not a freak neither a DULY?!


Just had to make some rhymes, what would you call it?

Sandra

Many things I love about this forum, some are minor, while other I consider are not, I will just go straight to mention them and be as honest as possible.
1. I like the simplicity of the forum ~ makes the forum really easy to understand and navigate around.
2. I like the ranking system so much ~ it encourages me to do more.
3. I like the merit system ~ like the ranking system, the merit system killed my laziness to making quality posts, it took away every zeal I had to spam.
4. I like the post to earn feature on the forum ~ it Motivates me to stay active and contribute meaningfully to the forum.
5. I also love the "preview" button which automatically saves the text in the message box ~ this simple, but very important feature have saved me alot of times from losing my entire work, mostly, times i make I long post and I've spent hours typing.

The way posts are quote easily. Quoting different posts and replying to them one after the other in a particular post. That alone gives me joy. The other one that got me is copying the link of other people's posts or yours

I'd rather be on this forum than EpochTalk which is planned as a new forum for bitcointalk users.
It's one of the little things I ever think about even though I basically like anything new. There is no reason to reject new things that develop, and one of them is when the forum introduced the merit system in early 2018. Another little thing I'm thinking right now is, useful for other users on this forum, it could also mean I want to help them get the rankings they deserve.

I hate telegram and discord I merely dislike reddit

Reddit is a great place, but of course it boils down to the communities as well.

About that cc subreddit, the amount of hypocrisy when they shit on pumps and dumps yet partake in them for profits. And then we have the shitposting for moons

Why do you hate Reddit? Imo a forum having Reddit's format with upvoted posts being at the top(or probably merited, in this case) is a far more efficient way of reading.

P.S. While I like Reddit, I heavily dislike the Reddit r/Bitcoin and r/Cryptocurrency communities.

The fact that the dashboard of my Ublock Origin browser extension is clear when accesing bitcointalk and how Dark Reader extension neatly changes the dark mode color of bitcointalk during night time with a single click of a button. 

I like the chronological order system for posts.

It is easy to research and study a thread as it is in chronological order.

I like to post I can look up every post I made since 2012.

I like the lack of change in format.

I hate telegram
I hate discord
I dis like reddit

all three are really poor at organizing the format.

Shout out to macrumors  which has a lot of similar rules.

Also evga forums .  but frankly btc talk is better than them.

As for me, i like and appreciate the fact that you don't know who and who view your profile and when, also i like the fact that you can only see the numbers of views on your topic thread or someone's else but you cant know who and who viewed the thread without commenting a reply, but rather you only know those that replies the thread, i also appreciate the fact that the forum is privacy conscious on itself.

I totally didn't expect that ngl 

By the way, thanks @BlackHatCoiner, I really appreciate it!

Definitely, I remember surfing this forum on Java Nokia phone back in the day. It was doable without much hiccups.

I will say right now, it's simplicity and access.

Last Saturday, my main machine broke up so I have to bring it to have it fix. So I have to pull out my old laptop as the back up. I set up up with LinuxMint. This is a 10 year old Samsung 10.1 inch netbook. It still has the Windows 7 and Atom Inside sticker, hehehe. It connected to my wifi but the power is just like 53% connected. And yet it was enough for me with this old machine and wifi to connect to this community and browse and post with just minimal laggings because the design is so lightweight.

Availability of Local boards

This is something I find really appreciative in Bitcointalk. The forum does not limit you from participating because you neither write nor understand English. You can decide to be on your local boards and still understand things about the forum. I believe the availability of locals is one differentiating factor between btt and order old forums.

Some times I will just log into this forum and decide to buy a visa to different countries You can't imagine how cool I feel checking posts in some locals and having to translate them to English with a translator, especially posts that have cool number of merits on them.

I like how bloody simple it is. If you want to change things on your end, i.e user interface CSS/UserScripts it's fairly straight forward. However, it also doesn't change, whereas plenty of other forums change their software every other week, which ends up breaking things you might've added. I don't actually participate in other forums, only for question usually, and then I leave. So, Bitcointalk just does it right.

Plus, while our community can seem divided at times, we do sort of pull together for the big things, for example the Bitcointalk Discord (which I should probably poke my head into), and things like the 10th anniversary, while these events do bring drama obviously with a community this big, it was generally a good atmosphere around them.

Also, this goes for the first point, but the lack of white space. Do you know how much I hate white space? Seriously, why has modern demands made it harder for me to find content, and instead spend my time scrolling a lot more. I generally use older laptops or computers which don't use much energy due to travelling a fair amount, and therefore I have smaller screens, and lower resolutions so some sites can be an absolute nightmare to actually browse.

Finally, lack of Javascript requirement. Bloody hate when sites inject javascript when it's not needed. Usually, the fancy things up. Function over fashion is the way to go.

Merit system, because it is something I have never seen on other social media. (It is like hearts/likes on steroids)

I also like the fact there is an option to log in without completing the catpcha, for us with a problematic internet connection. it is a little detail that matters much for some.

I like how people are okey if one's english is not completely good, I have seen threads or discussions where someone commits some grammatical mistakes and yet everyone focuses on the topic itself instead being rude, super wholesome.

he meant that the post won't be shown that it has been edited (even if you hover your cursor on the date of the post) if you edit your post seconds or even several minutes after you posted it. also, if I remember correctly, the post will only be shown as edited if you edit your post after 10 minutes have passed.

Knowledge - it is appreciated. The products of that knowledge are infinite in number as I believe it will continue to increase. Not infrequently the little things from him are appreciated, it is very relative. But not infrequently it will be big because the impact it produces is large. Next up - effort is something that is also appreciated. Starting from small things that can become big if done continuously and consistently.

In what way do you appreciate it?

I'll go one further and say it's most likely because businesses and brands are only willing to pay for posts if the forum it's made on is a reputable one. I have been on forums which tried to recreate the signature and avatar design on the forum to build traffic, but discussions cannot be built on that, rather there needs to be an existing discussion platform, before that traffic can be monetized in any way.

Also, majority of forums out there do not actually care for preventing spam, many have even encouraged spam here; remember Yobit

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's because other forums consider spam as a problem to be solved, rather than as something to be actively encouraged because "muh freeze peach". Remember what I'm paying you guys for!

Definitely not a minor thing, but it's unique as far as I know.  I've often wondered why other discussion forums don't adopt that model, even if it's just for traffic.

OP, I don't know what you consider "minor" but I appreciate the fact that bitcointalk has basically kept the same format since its inception.  And that's not because I'm opposed to anything new, or that I'm somehow stuck on things from the past 13 years.  It's because it reflects the fact that this is how the forum was when bitcoin was created, and it's also consistent with the nature of bitcoin, i.e., that its code isn't going to get changed by its dev team to make it worse--and that's happened with altcoins many times.  Sure, there have been bitcoin forks but those aren't bitcoin and never will be.

I can’t call it a trifle, I discovered the honesty and decency of many people. This is rare on the internet. After all, we can be anyone, but sometimes I am surprised at the kindness, and wisdom of the people who are present here, all that every day is difficult to see in real life. Today the world is rough, everyone thinks only about their own skin, but here is a different world, with the reading of which my day begins and ends.

Not really related to any forum features, but I appreciate having random conversations with random users here sharing their own experiences. Regardless if people share a true experience or not, I appreciate some user taking their time to write and relate to someone else's reply in a thread out of all those users that seemingly just reply to the OP's title or just the first line of OP's thread content.

It kinda gave me the Discord conversation vibes, although I do not use Discord that much that's related to crypto for personal reasons.

Feels good that someone would take time to show appreciation to your post, so I feel ya there!

I can think of major things, but if it's just a minor one: Stable, smooth forum software.

It does. You just have to wait a little after you submit it, and then edit it. Here's a post of mine: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57121263. Hover your mouse on "May 30, 2021", and you'll see when was that I edited last time.

The Merit system, I guess. Whenever I see the count increases, it makes my day

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Editing your post after launching it then it's gonna be okay if you put an effort because we are not perfect sometimes we encounter some minor issues like we want to reply 2-3 topics but we only quote 1 author which needed to be edited to became a good reply not a spam one. But if a user post like this (.....)(reserved) or any useless things to complete a weekly quota for the campaign then edit later on which not good as a habit.

Bitcointalk is literally known for that, I wouldn't call it 'minor thing'.

I like that many people here get paid to participate.  What other website can you make a post from the toilet and earn a few dollars?  It's a shame that the quality of content isn't taken into account in these payout structures, but it's still a cool thing.  Granted, it could be improved upon a great deal and benefit more users if it were managed by the forum, but it's still the reason a majority of posts are made here and that keeps things humming along as the information base continues to grow and gives users a chance to support projects and products here by purchasing them with funds from forum participation. 

It's good to be thorough when posting, but you can't completely prevent typos when your eyes are really tired after a long day in front of a screen. I think the preview feature before posting is useful, but then again it won't completely prevent minor errors for 200-500 character posts.

Editing a post is never a problem if not to trick the campaign manager when you can't meet the required number of requirements before the deadline. But if it's just written like (~~~) or (...) and edited after a few hours, then there's something of a purpose that's not really worth counting.

The fact that I can easily use Bitcointalk using Tor, because Bitcointalk is not some super unnecessarily modern feature-filled website that would take forever to load and that would take a lot of unnecessary resources.

I like that it doesn't count post 'edited' if you edit just after posting the comment/topic.

It could be available on other forums too, but I came across it first time in here.

What about you?