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Topic: What's shown to reciever when sending an e-mail? Your IP? Is this a risk? (Read 1454 times)

hero member
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Sent using Anonymous Email - Disposable Inbox services enabling you to receive email anonymously.

And what's the difference? Just make an alias email and give that to people that you don't want them to know your email.
newbie
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Sent using Anonymous Email - Disposable Inbox services enabling you to receive email anonymously.
hero member
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"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip. From there, "all you have to do is to implement a Trojan on his computer".

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Having an IP doesn't really help you get into a computer at all - you'd need some security hole to exploit or an extremely stupid user (more likely to find the latter). But let's be honest here, most people using Bitcoin at the moment aren't the clueless type I'm referring to - you'd be better off phishing for card/bank details and probably have more success there.

Yet people manage to hack into dataservers of governments and big companies all the time. A home PC is safer?

Probably yes. Large servers are more likely to be targeted by hackers, and DDOsed the crap out of it. Also, websites can be hacked and defaced by simple exploits such as SQL injections, which is impossible against a home PC.
legendary
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"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip. From there, "all you have to do is to implement a Trojan on his computer".

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Having an IP doesn't really help you get into a computer at all - you'd need some security hole to exploit or an extremely stupid user (more likely to find the latter). But let's be honest here, most people using Bitcoin at the moment aren't the clueless type I'm referring to - you'd be better off phishing for card/bank details and probably have more success there.

Yet people manage to hack into dataservers of governments and big companies all the time. A home PC is safer?

Softwares/ Scripts installed on them can be vulnerable.
http://www.exploit-db.com

Guns are not harmful, bullets are. Wink
newbie
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"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip. From there, "all you have to do is to implement a Trojan on his computer".

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Having an IP doesn't really help you get into a computer at all - you'd need some security hole to exploit or an extremely stupid user (more likely to find the latter). But let's be honest here, most people using Bitcoin at the moment aren't the clueless type I'm referring to - you'd be better off phishing for card/bank details and probably have more success there.

Yet people manage to hack into dataservers of governments and big companies all the time. A home PC is safer?
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Circa 2010
"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip. From there, "all you have to do is to implement a Trojan on his computer".

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Having an IP doesn't really help you get into a computer at all - you'd need some security hole to exploit or an extremely stupid user (more likely to find the latter). But let's be honest here, most people using Bitcoin at the moment aren't the clueless type I'm referring to - you'd be better off phishing for card/bank details and probably have more success there.
legendary
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As I thought then. Just wanted to hear it Smiley
While we're at it:
Would it be possible to create an anti keylogger program?
Say, every time you type in an A the program instantly types in 100 other letters and instantly deletes them aswell.
Perhaps this is what Wallets do?

http://www.qfxsoftware.com/
http://www.zemana.com/
legendary
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While we're at it:

Would it be possible to create an anti keylogger program?

Say, every time you type in an A the program instantly types in 100 other letters and instantly deletes them aswell.

Perhaps this is what Wallets do?
no, it's been thought of, and the short answer is: no, it's not worth the effort.
newbie
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As I thought then. Just wanted to hear it Smiley



While we're at it:

Would it be possible to create an anti keylogger program?

Say, every time you type in an A the program instantly types in 100 other letters and instantly deletes them aswell.

Perhaps this is what Wallets do?
hero member
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"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip. From there, "all you have to do is to implement a Trojan on his computer".

It is easy to steal the money from a bank, just drive around until you find a bank.  From there "all you have to do is break into the vault" and steal the money.

Well, I guess you could track the location to the IP, visit their house, break in, turn on the computer and install a trojan. So, "all you have to do is to install a Trojan on his computer".
Mission Accomplished.
donator
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Gerald Davis
"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip. From there, "all you have to do is to implement a Trojan on his computer".

It is easy to steal the money from a bank, just drive around until you find a bank.  From there "all you have to do is break into the vault" and steal the money.
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No, it is not true that you can just simply hack someone using their ip, if that's the case, almost all computers would get trojan affected, because the hacker able to get easy access, just using some resolvers.

So that is safe, i believe.
hero member
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"Just make the person you want to steal from send you an e-mail and you get his ip."

It was true years ago when users send email via the smtp server of their ISP. Now, most people use webmail, and service providers do not place IP addresses into email headers anymore.
copper member
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No I dont escrow anymore.
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... And is there anything the "hacker" can do if he gets into your router?

Depending on the level of access the same you can do with your router and more.

Turn it off and brick it? Lol, so what?
Anyway, I don't use default password on my router, so I have nothing to worry about.

Well a bricked router would be a powerfull denial of service Wink

No, I was thinking about deep packet inspection or mitm to get your passwords. Or even mine bitcoins. Wasnt there a botnet that mined bitcoins off of routers? No longer usefull I guess, but routers usually dont use much of their cpu anyway. Not that a regular user would notice anyway. A router is the perfect place for an attack. Its the central of your home network.

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CPU Usage 5.25%
hero member
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... And is there anything the "hacker" can do if he gets into your router?

Depending on the level of access the same you can do with your router and more.

Turn it off and brick it? Lol, so what?
Anyway, I don't use default password on my router, so I have nothing to worry about.
copper member
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No I dont escrow anymore.
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... And is there anything the "hacker" can do if he gets into your router?

Depending on the level of access the same you can do with your router and more.
hero member
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Don't be scared.
IP Addresses aren't directly hackable.
You are safe. As stated above, you'd need a vulnerability to get through...
The only thing that came to mind was Metasploit but that was back for Windows XP or earlier I believe.
You should be fine... Don't download, or open anything of his though (That's the only way an EMAIL) will get you infected.
Obvious crock of BS.

Correct, IP address are meant to be public,no one can hack your PC via just IP unless there is some backdoor.

The only thing someone can do is, he can use metaspoit and get access to your router (if you are using default passwords) and that's only possible if IP address is static. (Most internet companies provides dynamic IP which keeps changing.)

So the only harm some noob hacker can do is "ddos attack".


... And is there anything the "hacker" can do if he gets into your router?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
Don't be scared.
IP Addresses aren't directly hackable.
You are safe. As stated above, you'd need a vulnerability to get through...
The only thing that came to mind was Metasploit but that was back for Windows XP or earlier I believe.
You should be fine... Don't download, or open anything of his though (That's the only way an EMAIL) will get you infected.
Obvious crock of BS.

Correct, IP address are meant to be public,no one can hack your PC via just IP unless there is some backdoor.

The only thing someone can do is, he can use metaspoit and get access to your router (if you are using default passwords) and that's only possible if IP address is static. (Most internet companies provides dynamic IP which keeps changing.)

So the only harm some noob hacker can do is "ddos attack".




copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
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Exactly. A lot of people think that by opening an email a hacker can "burn their hard disk" and "erase all their files".
Simply not true.

Well there have been times...

http://www.computerbytesman.com/acctroj/

Dont write anything off as impossible. Modern systems are more secure because the devolpers learned from big mistakes in the past. Its not like they make big misstakes nowadays, right? right guys? guys?

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/ms14-021.aspx
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Don't be scared.

IP Addresses aren't directly hackable.

You are safe. As stated above, you'd need a vulnerability to get through...

The only thing that came to mind was Metasploit but that was back for Windows XP or earlier I believe.

You should be fine... Don't download, or open anything of his though (That's the only way an EMAIL) will get you infected.

Think: If you go on XBOX LIVE and get somebody's IP (You could infect many children)...

Obvious crock of BS.

Exactly. A lot of people think that by opening an email a hacker can "burn their hard disk" and "erase all their files".
Simply not true.
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