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sr. member
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I would suggest you to wait few months till the new Vega cards are in stock. If you don't have that time I think the best options are RX480 or nvidia 1070/1080 depends on what are you going to mine.
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CryptoLearner
The new series brings up a good point. I'm actually using it for 14 to 15 months most realistically. So it will be early spring when I am actually selling the cards. The specs for the 2018 cards will be out by than and what I would be selling will be compared to something soon to hit the market 2 generations after. I will have made some BTC by than which would stand to get some appreciation anyway I'm surely profiting in the end either way

NVidia and AMD can both lose a lot of profit if any of their key coins were to flop. All the network mining power would shift to one of their alternatives. Best argument is that XMR and ETH are more established while ZEC and forks are more unknown. The thing I am more concerned with is power draw for the summer when I can't really afford to tap too much electric and heat more so. With NVidia I know I can run ETH at 50% power for the summer. With AMD not one person answered this for me and I can only speculate that I can't based on the OC screenshots in the claymore threads. @Amp, I'm not buying SP's LBRY miner with the modded Pascal kernel. I don't have a farm or a 6 GPU mining rig. LBRY would likely get overly pumped and dumped if ZEC crashed and I would be better off mining ETH. It's pretty much ZEC or ETH for me on NVidia


In the summer, a 1070 at 50% power on ETH keeps at below 60 Celsius when I am hitting 50% fans, and it requires some degree of AC on money saver while I am away. Right now in the winter I am running the 1070 at 82% power at 70% fans and it is at 54 Celsius on the colder days and 59 on the warmer days. I'd have to max out the fans if I were running that power to temp



Even though there is hundred of thousands of cards sold for mining purpose, it's less than a drop of water for either nvidia or amd, i don't think they focus on anything related to mining on their cards or/and don't care.
sr. member
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The new series brings up a good point. I'm actually using it for 14 to 15 months most realistically. So it will be early spring when I am actually selling the cards. The specs for the 2018 cards will be out by than and what I would be selling will be compared to something soon to hit the market 2 generations after. I will have made some BTC by than which would stand to get some appreciation anyway I'm surely profiting in the end either way

NVidia and AMD can both lose a lot of profit if any of their key coins were to flop. All the network mining power would shift to one of their alternatives. Best argument is that XMR and ETH are more established while ZEC and forks are more unknown. The thing I am more concerned with is power draw for the summer when I can't really afford to tap too much electric and heat more so. With NVidia I know I can run ETH at 50% power for the summer. With AMD not one person answered this for me and I can only speculate that I can't based on the OC screenshots in the claymore threads. @Amp, I'm not buying SP's LBRY miner with the modded Pascal kernel. I don't have a farm or a 6 GPU mining rig. LBRY would likely get overly pumped and dumped if ZEC crashed and I would be better off mining ETH. It's pretty much ZEC or ETH for me on NVidia


In the summer, a 1070 at 50% power on ETH keeps at below 60 Celsius when I am hitting 50% fans, and it requires some degree of AC on money saver while I am away. Right now in the winter I am running the 1070 at 82% power at 70% fans and it is at 54 Celsius on the colder days and 59 on the warmer days. I'd have to max out the fans if I were running that power to temp

legendary
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If you are looking 1 year out these are the rumours....

The AMD Vega 11 family will replace the Polaris 10 (RX 4xx) sometime in 2017.

The NVidia Volta (GTX 20x0 (?)) will replace the Pascal (GTX 10x0) starting in 2017.

So both the RX 4xx and GTX 10xx families will no longer be shipping in 1 year, which would seem to reduce their resale value as "obsolete" or "non-current" cards.

The AMD Vega 10 family (R11 Huh) will being to appear next month and will likely be around in a year.  This could still be a shipping product and might have the best resale value, assuming the Vega 10 offers at least as good performance as the NVidia 10xx family.

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-navi-gpu-hbm2/

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-milestone/


a correction, the 20xx family is not volta, volta is delayed to 2018, the 20xx family is a pascal refresh, they will hash faster at the same cost of 1070 and 1080
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I think any high end expensive cards will hold the most value.

Best way is to find a discounted item. I got a produo for £600 new and can't imagine being unable to sell it on eBay for the same price this time next year.

But remember AMD and Nvidia will be releasing a new series of cards this year so now is a bad time to buy anything as there should be a price drop due because of it.
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If you are looking 1 year out these are the rumours....

The AMD Vega 11 family will replace the Polaris 10 (RX 4xx) sometime in 2017.

The NVidia Volta (GTX 20x0 (?)) will replace the Pascal (GTX 10x0) starting in 2017.

So both the RX 4xx and GTX 10xx families will no longer be shipping in 1 year, which would seem to reduce their resale value as "obsolete" or "non-current" cards.

The AMD Vega 10 family (R11 Huh) will being to appear next month and will likely be around in a year.  This could still be a shipping product and might have the best resale value, assuming the Vega 10 offers at least as good performance as the NVidia 10xx family.

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-navi-gpu-hbm2/

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-milestone/




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1070 for the current environment. May change once Vega hits as its price/impact right now is unknown and its impact on 1070 prices. The biggest factor is how LBRY price trends, and ZEC / ZCL price trending. AMD cards as highlighted, have a wider spread / adaptability compared to Nvidia in relation to mineable coins.

Hope that helps!
legendary
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ethereum is trash at the moment, lbry and zcash are far better and nvidia is better there, also a 1070 with 8gb has a better resale value to gamers than a 480 to miners, unless you buy the 8gb version, but this will kill the price difference in favor of amd

Right now you can resell RX 480 8Gb for 75% of initial price. Ebay sold prices checked right now

Actually never checked on NVidia - what are you numbers there?

zcash you can do 450, but i'm doing 416 with lowest consumption, on lbry you can do 300 but i'm doing 266 with lowest consumption

i would push it at maximum if i had a better energy cost

the 480 8gb cost more than $200, and it's not half of the 1070 price anymore
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Best reseller will be most expensive card today.

AMD traditionally can be sold very good on Ebay. Right now you can easily sell RX 480 8Gb for $200. Which is about 75% of what I paid in late August.


Except Titan and 1080 which will lose value very fast. 1070 probably also
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CryptoLearner
Rx 470/480 will give you more options on mining.

gtx 1070 is basically restricted to zcash for profits.

So with gtx 1070 you pay twice as much but can earn double on zcash while run at lower watts.  With rx 470/480 you can mine anything, the big 3 eth/monero/zcash and earn 1/2 that gtx 1070 will on zcash but have more options so if zcash goes belly up then you won't be fucked.

Amd cards have good resale also, just sold a 7950 a few weeks ago for $100 and I payed $85 for it.  The rx series will be no exception for a stong resale value for the next 2 years.  Remember there are gamers that are fans of amd and nvidia, also people have all kinds of budgets regarding gpus.  Do not believe anyone who tells you a 4gb card will never be able to resale...that is bullshit.

Zclassic, Lbry, and other alternative algo, that mine alot faster on nvidia cards, and have exploding prices atm.

gtx 1070 also 31.5MHS Ethereum & forks. 1060 is also doing good, and is @ 480 level even above on alot of algos for the same buying price, weaker in ETH though but ETH is kinda.... shacky atm.

Plenty of options, initial investment higher for 1070 but pay off over the year with less money for electricity, cooling, better resale value too. 1060 3GB is also very well place in term of price & mining prowess. Also pascal cards barely begun to be optimized, all AMD's card are pretty much maxed out (maybe 10/15% coming with the eve of ASM optimization for some models) but that's nearly the end.

Both solution have merits, but i bet on nvidia atm. Waiting for vega architecture to expand farm with some amds too, good to have versatility & options around Smiley
hero member
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Rx 470/480 will give you more options on mining.

gtx 1070 is basically restricted to zcash for profits.

So with gtx 1070 you pay twice as much but can earn double on zcash while run at lower watts.  With rx 470/480 you can mine anything, the big 3 eth/monero/zcash and earn 1/2 that gtx 1070 will on zcash but have more options so if zcash goes belly up then you won't be fucked.

Amd cards have good resale also, just sold a 7950 a few weeks ago for $100 and I payed $85 for it.  The rx series will be no exception for a stong resale value for the next 2 years.  Remember there are gamers that are fans of amd and nvidia, also people have all kinds of budgets regarding gpus.  Do not believe anyone who tells you a 4gb card will never be able to resale...that is bullshit.
sr. member
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I was considering the memory aspect when it came to this. The memory is the big concern I have the with GTX 1060 3gb version when it comes to resale. The card outperforms a GTX 970 meanwhile 970 users are already hitting 3gb+ of memory usage on their games.

I do see the 4gb limit being a deal breaker on the RX 480 models for gaming. RX 470 maybe not a problem at 4gb. I would speculate that the RX470 might be the best reseller out of the lower memory options and I see post saying that's the best XMR miner anyway. I'd have to be concerned with bios flashing and how that affects the resale value if I went AMD


This memory stuff does push me to play it safe with getting a GTX 1070 and keep it simple. The bios flashing and warranty coverage makes NVidia seem simpler right now also

People here who have been mining and flipping hardware can answer this better than me. Is it common for the used GPU market to be flooded with mining cards all the time?
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For sure AMD RX 470 & RX 480/GTX 1060 & 1070, because they're most newest video cards. In my country after 1 year you can sell it for 50$ bucks less  Wink Buying another videocards like r9 280x or something sounds not nice, because they're old technology. Who like to buy old stuff?
legendary
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RX 480 and GTX 1070, both would be have somewhat same resale value ratio in my opinion. However, if I think of resale value, I'd definitely go with the 8 GB version of both of these. Think about gamers, they need real room in memory.
hero member
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ethereum is trash at the moment, lbry and zcash are far better and nvidia is better there, also a 1070 with 8gb has a better resale value to gamers than a 480 to miners, unless you buy the 8gb version, but this will kill the price difference in favor of amd

Right now you can resell RX 480 8Gb for 75% of initial price. Ebay sold prices checked right now

Actually never checked on NVidia - what are you numbers there?
legendary
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Both cards are at the same range if you want to resell it.
You can get 2x RX 480 for the price of 1 GTX 1070

it hash also far less than one 1070, 260 sol against 440 plus double the consumption, plus you need more rig, which mean more components that add to the price which reduce the "2x480 = 1x1070"

To be fair, the RX cards are better for ETH and XMR right now

I am only getting a single card at the moment anyway there wont be any doubling on 470's, 480's, or 1060's

It appears that the 1060 (3gb) gets 250 Sol/s where a 1070 gets 450 Sol/s. Meanwhile the price for the components right now divide pretty equally for an ROI. It comes down to which of those 2 cards will resell easier after or me simply getting the most hashes I can because I want to mine and trade to more BTC before it takes its actually for real moonshot

For resale value RX480 or used 280/380 series cards from ebay probably

What makes you think the RX 480 will hold its value the best after 1 year, and what makes you think the R9 cards will hold their value after a another year?

ethereum is trash at the moment, lbry and zcash are far better and nvidia is better there, also a 1070 with 8gb has a better resale value to gamers than a 480 to miners, unless you buy the 8gb version, but this will kill the price difference in favor of amd
legendary
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One suggestion is to look for a parts dealer that you can:

1. Buy a used/new GPU from.
2. Can agree to take your GPU as a trade-in for a new or another used GPU.

While initial price for Step 1 might be a bit more than if you scout yourself, you can offset your 2nd GPU buy with a trade-in.

This way you always stay a step ahead with GPU upgrades, with marginal costs outlay for every new buy. Both you and dealer also know you're buying/selling same GPU so it's in dealer's interest and yours to be upfront about the state of the used item.
hero member
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Best reseller will be most expensive card today.

AMD traditionally can be sold very good on Ebay. Right now you can easily sell RX 480 8Gb for $200. Which is about 75% of what I paid in late August.
sr. member
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Honestly, in terms of resale value within I year, I think nVidia is better. Why? There are more gamers than miners, GTX 1070/1080 are sort of the holly grail (not talking about the Titan...). I have only AMD cards on my miners, but I'd love to get a 1070/1080 for my gaming rig.
sr. member
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Both cards are at the same range if you want to resell it.
You can get 2x RX 480 for the price of 1 GTX 1070

it hash also far less than one 1070, 260 sol against 440 plus double the consumption, plus you need more rig, which mean more components that add to the price which reduce the "2x480 = 1x1070"

To be fair, the RX cards are better for ETH and XMR right now

I am only getting a single card at the moment anyway there wont be any doubling on 470's, 480's, or 1060's

It appears that the 1060 (3gb) gets 250 Sol/s where a 1070 gets 450 Sol/s. Meanwhile the price for the components right now divide pretty equally for an ROI. It comes down to which of those 2 cards will resell easier after or me simply getting the most hashes I can because I want to mine and trade to more BTC before it takes its actually for real moonshot

For resale value RX480 or used 280/380 series cards from ebay probably

What makes you think the RX 480 will hold its value the best after 1 year, and what makes you think the R9 cards will hold their value after a another year?
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